Minor League Discussion & Boxes 6-3-13

[Elrhino]

Hoping for a bounce back from Maples tonight. His last two outings have been teh suck.

[toonsterwu]

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I think the top 6 is the big 3 (Soler/Baez/Almora) and Johnson/Alcantara/Vogelbach in some order.

 

I'd think Vogelbach is well behind Alcantara at this point, unless he starts mashing. Vogelbach's only a year younger, two levels behind, has a sub-.800 OPS, and is a DH/1B.

 

Vogelbach's got no shot at top-100 status with the level of production he's shown thus far. Now many 20-year-old low-A .794-OPS 1B/DH guys making the top 100.

 

Oh, I agree. I don't think Vogelbach is a top 100 guy right now, as the bar is simply that much higher for a first baseman to make it. I think he's clearly 6th.

 

I guess I should've been clearer. I think there's a good case for Alcantara at 4, ahead of Pierce Johnson, but I can see Johnson ahead of Alcantara.

[toonsterwu]

so is alcantara a likely top 100?

 

If so we're looking at (likely), at the very least, Soler, Baez, Almora, Bryant/Appel/Gray, and Alcantara as top 100 guys right (4 of which are probably top 30 or so)

 

 

And then guys like Johnson, Vogelbach, and maybe Candelario as maybes? Also, maybe we land a top 100 guy for one of our trade chips...

 

That's not bad.

 

We were discussing this in the thread the other day. My feeling is, as of now, he's borderline top 100. If he maintains his offensive production and shows month to month offensive consistency, then he's probably top 100, and maybe top 75. Young shortstop prospects (although I do think he'll move off shortstop long run) get valued highly.

 

I think the top 6 is the big 3 (Soler/Baez/Almora) and Johnson/Alcantara/Vogelbach in some order.

Until Thursday

Assuming Appel or Gray are taken, where would you put them relative to Soler/Baez/Almora? Does either guy become the new #1?

 

edit: I realize this is in the wrong thread, I was just curious.

 

I think Appel or Gray probably go ahead of Almora as of now, but behind Soler/Baez. I guess you can make an argument for them to be ahead of Baez.

 

Bryant would be behind Baez for me. A bit more debatable on Bryant/Almora for me.

 

Anyone else would probably be behind Almora. To be honest, much as I've defended the idea of Moran being an intriguing pick, I really don't know if I would put Moran ahead of Johnson or Alcantara, if we opted for that route. But I'm not really expecting anyone outside of the top 3.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'd go No. 2 pick (as long as it's not signability based) first, then Soler, Almora and Baez. I'd consider Soler/Pick to be a razor-thin margin.

[Guest]

I'd go No. 2 pick (as long as it's not signability based) first, then Soler, Almora and Baez. I'd consider Soler/Pick to be a razor-thin margin.

 

If it's razor thin, why not go with the guy who already has shown to be productive in the pros? (in a difficult league for that, mind you)

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I'm leaning Soler, Almora, Bryant/Appel/Gray, Baez

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'd go No. 2 pick (as long as it's not signability based) first, then Soler, Almora and Baez. I'd consider Soler/Pick to be a razor-thin margin.

 

If it's razor thin, why not go with the guy who already has shown to be productive in the pros? (in a difficult league for that, mind you)

 

Because Soler's production gives me more of an appreciative smile than a raging boner, and the pick has boner potential.

[Guest]

I'd go No. 2 pick (as long as it's not signability based) first, then Soler, Almora and Baez. I'd consider Soler/Pick to be a razor-thin margin.

 

If it's razor thin, why not go with the guy who already has shown to be productive in the pros? (in a difficult league for that, mind you)

 

Because Soler's production gives me more of an appreciative smile than a raging boner, and the pick has boner potential.

 

i honestly don't feel that way about any of these guys. i'm excited to add another top guy but i don't consider any of them better than soler's extremely solid combination of safe floor and fairly exciting ceiling.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I'd go No. 2 pick (as long as it's not signability based) first, then Soler, Almora and Baez. I'd consider Soler/Pick to be a razor-thin margin.

 

If it's razor thin, why not go with the guy who already has shown to be productive in the pros? (in a difficult league for that, mind you)

 

Because Soler's production gives me more of an appreciative smile than a raging boner, and the pick has boner potential.

 

Aren't you selling our guys a bit short? Kyle Hendricks and Matt Szcur should produce an appreciative smile. Soler and Almora should elicit at least some level of unpure thoughts.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Speaking of appreciative smile producers, Villanueva with a 3B.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

 

Aren't you selling our guys a bit short? Kyle Hendricks and Matt Szcur should produce an appreciative smile. Soler and Almora should elicit at least some level of unpure thoughts.

 

Those guys give me a confused smirk.

 

Soler gets maybe a leering grin, but my boners are reserved for .900+ OPSes.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Kyle Hendicks is dealing again, btw.

 

4 IP, 1 BB, 4 H, 4 K, 0 R

[Guest]

 

Aren't you selling our guys a bit short? Kyle Hendricks and Matt Szcur should produce an appreciative smile. Soler and Almora should elicit at least some level of unpure thoughts.

 

Those guys give me a confused smirk.

 

Soler gets maybe a leering grin, but my boners are reserved for .900+ OPSes.

This is a very disturbing way to grade young men.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I was figuring we'd get a mod to step in on that one. The bonery went all the way up to Tim, instead.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

The top 4 are Christina Hendricks quality. Not sure where to go from there.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Hendricks threw a 7-inning CG shutout in the first half of a doubleheader. 7 IP, 7 H, 1 BB, 7 K, 0 ER.

 

ERA down to 2.20, and his FIP and xFIP are both well in the 2s as well.

[Little Slide Rooter]

 

Aren't you selling our guys a bit short? Kyle Hendricks and Matt Szcur should produce an appreciative smile. Soler and Almora should elicit at least some level of unpure thoughts.

 

Those guys give me a confused smirk.

 

Soler gets maybe a leering grin, but my boners are reserved for .900+ OPSes.

This is a very disturbing way to grade young men.

 

Get with the program. Next year, BA changes their system to Nice Personality to Hope You Brought a Spare Set of Underpants.

[Guest]

Hendricks threw a 7-inning CG shutout in the first half of a doubleheader. 7 IP, 7 H, 1 BB, 7 K, 0 ER.

 

ERA down to 2.20, and his FIP and xFIP are both well in the 2s as well.

9-3 GB-FB ratio, too

[Guest]

Tennessee once again sac bunting in the first inning when there's a very high rate thief on first base.

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Kyle [expletive] Hendricks.

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HR Reggie Golden

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keithlaw @keithlaw

Now, Puig. Career, Soler. RT @cubswin32: @keithlaw puig or soler???

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Random Updates where I don't become an entire page of this thread:

 

Maples gives up walk #2, but strikes out the side in the third. 6 K's thru 3

 

Almora BB, but then CS

 

HR #5 Villanueva

 

Baez 1/4 with 2 Ks... Sigh

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Brett Jackson home run. He's going to need to get and stay hot for a long time to get back on the radar.

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Final Dillon Maples line tonight: 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 7 K, 5-2 GO-FO

 

Reggie Golden is 2-2 with a single, walk and HR