2013 Chicago Bulls Offseason Thread

[Old Style]

The Bulls are not going to pass on the next Michael Jordan for Ben Mclemore.

LeBron is draft eligible again?

[SpongeWorthy]

Did you not get the Victor Oladipo memo?

[Guest]

Deng to Washington for #3 and Okafor being rumored as well per Marc Stein.

 

Okafor has a player option for $14 million but expires after this season, just like Deng. Don't really see why the Wizards would do that.

 

Deng has value as an expiring contract who is still a pretty darn effective player but if you're just swapping expirings coming from a bad team? I'd rather tank again and get a lot of lottery balls in a draft worth a damn.

 

Tank again? They didn't really tank this year (if they tried, it was a poor effort).

 

But yeah, would love a top 5 pick in next year's draft.

[SpongeWorthy]

I meant in general. The Cavs rumor mentioned that Gilbert wants to be respectable this year, which really makes no sense. Sell the fan base on the 2014/Lebron plan and get another sexy asset in place in a loaded draft next year.

 

Deng might put the Wizards on the cusp of respectability which would get them nowhere in the long run.

[Guest]

I meant in general. The Cavs rumor mentioned that Gilbert wants to be respectable this year, which really makes no sense. Sell the fan base on the 2014/Lebron plan and get another sexy asset in place in a loaded draft next year.

 

Deng might put the Wizards on the cusp of respectability which would get them nowhere in the long run.

 

I think the Cavs can probably do both. They'll be better next year with improved health and growth from younger players, and they have so many assets in this draft that they can do something like trade the #1 pick and still have more draft assets than the average team to add young/cheap players or make further moves. I could be wrong, but it looks like they'd have the chips to do something like trade for Aldridge and still give LeBron a max deal without touching Irving/Waiters/Thompson. That would make for a frightening starting 5 with a lot of upcoming picks still to help fill in a bench.

 

All that said, #1 for Deng or even #19 for Deng doesn't make any sense. There's a 31 & 33 for Paul Pierce rumor that would achieve a very similar goal for far fewer in assets.

[Banedon]

ESPN article on this:

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/60177/sources-deng-for-no-3-pick-explored

[kujay]

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#story/chi-exbull-pippen-involved-in-fight-at-malibu-restaurant-20130624/

 

Stay out of Malibu, deadbeat!

 

#lowhangingfruit

[SpongeWorthy]

I meant in general. The Cavs rumor mentioned that Gilbert wants to be respectable this year, which really makes no sense. Sell the fan base on the 2014/Lebron plan and get another sexy asset in place in a loaded draft next year.

 

Deng might put the Wizards on the cusp of respectability which would get them nowhere in the long run.

 

I think the Cavs can probably do both. They'll be better next year with improved health and growth from younger players, and they have so many assets in this draft that they can do something like trade the #1 pick and still have more draft assets than the average team to add young/cheap players or make further moves. I could be wrong, but it looks like they'd have the chips to do something like trade for Aldridge and still give LeBron a max deal without touching Irving/Waiters/Thompson. That would make for a frightening starting 5 with a lot of upcoming picks still to help fill in a bench.

 

All that said, #1 for Deng or even #19 for Deng doesn't make any sense. There's a 31 & 33 for Paul Pierce rumor that would achieve a very similar goal for far fewer in assets.

 

Yeah but this draft sucks

[Guest]

Eh, they said that a couple years ago when the Cavs had the #1 pick and they ended up with the best player since Rose's class. I'm not too worried about it.

[SpongeWorthy]

I'm sure there will be some nice players. No one that is going to change the course of a franchise.

 

The Cavs are in a unique position where they can work their 2014 plan by being bad or being respectable this season and it probably won't mean much one way or another to Lebron. The other lottery teams, there's no value in getting marginally better and playing yourself out of the Wiggins sweepstakes (or the half dozen other guys who would go #1 in this draft).

[SpongeWorthy]

Pippen turned himself in. Felony assault. Yikes.

[SpongeWorthy]

Word is that it was an overzealous autograph seeker and not a disgruntled server upset about his tip

[Old Style]

TMZ is reporting that a witness said Pip beat the [expletive] out of the dude, kicking him in the head/face repeatedly after he was on the ground.

[Brian]

Pippen had been at the Nobu Malibu restaurant on the Pacific Coast Highway when a fight broke out between him and the man around 6:30 p.m. Sunday, said Steve Whitmore, a spokesman for the Los Angeles County sheriff's office.

 

"He came in to be interviewed, he's been cooperative," said Whitmore.

 

By Monday afternoon, Pippen had been questioned by police and was cooperative, said Whitmore. Pippen was allowed to leave without being charged, said Whitmore.

 

"Mr. Pippen will not be arrested, there's more here than meets the eye," said Whitmore.

[Guest]

Oh, TMZ was wrong and jumped the gun.

[RynoRules]

A friend of a friend's boyfriend said she saw Pip pass out at 64 Flavors last night. Guess its pretty serious.

[Sammy Sofa]

Oh, TMZ was wrong and jumped the gun.

 

TMZ is staffed by scum, but in terms of their breaking news accuracy they're actually better than most. It's insane to realize that, I know.

[Guest]

Oh, TMZ was wrong and jumped the gun.

 

TMZ is staffed by scum, but in terms of their breaking news accuracy they're actually better than most. It's insane to realize that, I know.

 

Oh, believe me, I know.

 

But they've had their share of screw ups in an attempt at haste.

[Banedon]

Oh, TMZ was wrong and jumped the gun.

 

TMZ is staffed by scum, but in terms of their breaking news accuracy they're actually better than most. It's insane to realize that, I know.

 

Oh, believe me, I know.

 

But they've had their share of screw ups in an attempt at haste.

 

So they're equals with CNN.

[GammonsPocketTweets]

I find it hard to believe any team would be willing to give up a lottery pick for Luol Deng. I'd take a mid first rounder to rid ourselves of him, his bad contract and his gimpy wrist.

[Guest]

I find it hard to believe any team would be willing to give up a lottery pick for Luol Deng. I'd take a mid first rounder to rid ourselves of him, his bad contract and his gimpy wrist.

 

his bad contract? his contract is extremely valuable as an expiring next season, even if he dies.

[Sammy Sofa]

I find it hard to believe any team would be willing to give up a lottery pick for Luol Deng. I'd take a mid first rounder to rid ourselves of him, his bad contract and his gimpy wrist.

 

He doesn't have a bad contract at this point; not even close. And I'm sorry, but are you blind and deaf? You really think he hasn't been a valuable player because of a "gimpy wrist?"

[Guest]

I find it hard to believe any team would be willing to give up a lottery pick for Luol Deng. I'd take a mid first rounder to rid ourselves of him, his bad contract and his gimpy wrist.

 

He doesn't have a bad contract at this point; not even close. And I'm sorry, but are you blind and deaf? You really think he hasn't been a valuable player because of a "gimpy wrist?"

 

He has been, but man, I really wish he'd get that thing fixed. WTF. It pissed me off last year when he went to the Olympics instead, and it's even more annoying now that he has nothing to stand in the way and is just electing not to.

 

Or maybe I'm talking out of my ass and surgery is no longer an option (or not a good one, at least) after this long or something. *shrug*

[GammonsPocketTweets]

Given the minutes, Jimmy Butler is easily capable of replacing Deng's production, at a fraction of the cost.

[Sammy Sofa]

Given the minutes, Jimmy Butler is easily capable of replacing Deng's production, at a fraction of the cost.

 

Which does absolutely nothing to impact Deng's value as a trading chip to other teams.