Minor League Discussion & Boxes 5-21-13

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More fun with SSS: Christian Villanueva is batting .338 with a .939 OPS in the month of May.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Javier Baez's last 10 games: .366/.409/.561 with 3 BB and 6 K in 41 AB

 

That is one sexy SSS.

[Guest]

Javier Baez finally with an OBP over .300.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The question for me has always been can he grow up as a hitter when he needs to. I hate to make this comparison, but Miguel Cabrera had similar issues when he came to the majors.

I was poking around last night, and I found two interesting things as it pertained to Baez. There were some very good hitters who posted poor numbers in A+ as 20 year olds. Most notably, Robinson Cano. .276/.313/.377. Miguel Cabrera was a little better as a 19 year old in A+ but no great shakes (.274/.333/.421). Matt Kemp walked 25 times versus 92 Ks, and CarGo had 30 walks and K'd 104 both as 20 year olds in A+. Carlos Beltran had a much better 2:1 ratio but only hit .229/.311/.363 while the same age and at the same level as Baez.

 

But what really stood out to me was the sheer number of talented hitters who's numbers took a big jump from A+ to AA and from their age 20 to their age 21 years. It seemed to be a fairly consistent trend.

 

If Baez had a K/BB ratio in line with those guys, we wouldn't be having the conversations.

 

I don't care much about slash lines at this level one way or the other. But when the K/BB ratio peaked at over 7, that's worth being concerned over. After tonight, it's still 6:1.

[Guest]

Today in extended spring training: http://www.thecubreporter.com/05212013/diamondbacks-roll-seven-come-11-fitch-park

[CubsWin]

The question for me has always been can he grow up as a hitter when he needs to. I hate to make this comparison, but Miguel Cabrera had similar issues when he came to the majors.

I was poking around last night, and I found two interesting things as it pertained to Baez. There were some very good hitters who posted poor numbers in A+ as 20 year olds. Most notably, Robinson Cano. .276/.313/.377. Miguel Cabrera was a little better as a 19 year old in A+ but no great shakes (.274/.333/.421). Matt Kemp walked 25 times versus 92 Ks, and CarGo had 30 walks and K'd 104 both as 20 year olds in A+. Carlos Beltran had a much better 2:1 ratio but only hit .229/.311/.363 while the same age and at the same level as Baez.

 

But what really stood out to me was the sheer number of talented hitters who's numbers took a big jump from A+ to AA and from their age 20 to their age 21 years. It seemed to be a fairly consistent trend.

 

If Baez had a K/BB ratio in line with those guys, we wouldn't be having the conversations.

 

I don't care much about slash lines at this level one way or the other. But when the K/BB ratio peaked at over 7, that's worth being concerned over. After tonight, it's still 6:1.

I love your work.

 

Since your comments 7 games ago, Baez has hit .414, scored 8 runs, smashed 3 doubles, a triple and has a 1:1 K/BB ratio. I don't know how you do it.

[Tyrant]

The question for me has always been can he grow up as a hitter when he needs to. I hate to make this comparison, but Miguel Cabrera had similar issues when he came to the majors.

I was poking around last night, and I found two interesting things as it pertained to Baez. There were some very good hitters who posted poor numbers in A+ as 20 year olds. Most notably, Robinson Cano. .276/.313/.377. Miguel Cabrera was a little better as a 19 year old in A+ but no great shakes (.274/.333/.421). Matt Kemp walked 25 times versus 92 Ks, and CarGo had 30 walks and K'd 104 both as 20 year olds in A+. Carlos Beltran had a much better 2:1 ratio but only hit .229/.311/.363 while the same age and at the same level as Baez.

 

But what really stood out to me was the sheer number of talented hitters who's numbers took a big jump from A+ to AA and from their age 20 to their age 21 years. It seemed to be a fairly consistent trend.

 

If Baez had a K/BB ratio in line with those guys, we wouldn't be having the conversations.

 

I don't care much about slash lines at this level one way or the other. But when the K/BB ratio peaked at over 7, that's worth being concerned over. After tonight, it's still 6:1.

I love your work.

 

Since your comments 7 games ago, Baez has hit .414, scored 8 runs, smashed 3 doubles, a triple and has a 1:1 K/BB ratio. I don't know how you do it.

 

Can we stop giving Kyle any further reason to feel important?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I wouldn't put it that way, but the minor league section is one of the few places where actual baseball discussion takes place almost every day. The "Kyle has powers to make prospects get hot with his criticisms" thing is a little funny if used sparingly, but it doesn't need to be brought up multiple times every day.

[rawaction]

I'm not scared of Javy's numbers in Daytona at 20. I still look at him as a top 25 prospect, even before this hot streak. But I can't see any parallels with Cabrera. Cabrera went .274/.333/.421 with 38 walks and 85K's at 19 in the FSL in 545 PA. Then, at 20 in AA, went .365/.429/.609 with 31 walks and 49 K's in 303 PA.

The parallel wasn't about ability just maturity level. That's why I said I hated to do that because someone would make that connection.

 

And Baez's numbers aren't going to be far off from Cabrera's even if he stays at a similar pace. And the difference in walks would be made up by having more power.

 

And yes I realize I just made the comparison that I didn't want to make. Lol.

[Gmoney08]

After looking at those 20-21 year old statistics in A and AA ball it really makes you appreciate what Starlin has done these past few years at such a young age even more.

 

Granted he's not a superduper star but the kid is good! Hopefully he takes the next step.