Minor League Discussion & Boxes 5-14-13

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Box Scores

 

Iowa lost 11-1 Box Score

 

LF B. Jackson 1/4, K

RF B. Bogusevic 2/4, R, 2B (12), RBI

3B I. Stewart 1/3, 2B (2), BB, K

PH L. Watkins 0/1

SP B. Loux 3.1 IP, 9 H, 7 ER, 3 BB, 2 K, 1 WP, 6-1 GO-FO, 86-45 pitches-strikes; batting: 0/1

 

Tennessee won 3-2 (10 innings) Box Score

 

CF M. Szczur 3/5, K

2B R. Torreyes 1/5, R, 2B (6)

SS A. Alcantara 1/5, 2 RBI, K

3B C. Villanueva 2/3, R, 2B (11), HR (2), RBI, BB, K, E (7, fielding)

RF R. Silva 0/4, K, outfield assist at third base

SP A. Cabrera 7 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 7 K, 9-3 GO-FO, 89-56 pitches-strikes

RP M. Hatley 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 1-0 GO-FO

RP Z. Rosscup 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 0-1 GO-FO

 

Daytona lost 4-2 Box Score

 

2B T. Saunders 0/3, K, HBP, CS (2), PO

CF Z. DeVoss 0/3, R, BB, K

SS Ja. Baez 1/4, 2 K, CS (1), PO

RF J. Soler 0/3, RBI

LF J. Andreoli 1/3, R, K

1B D. Geiger 1/3, 2B (5)

DH T. Easterling 0/3, 3 K

SP B. Wells 5.1 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 1 WP, 8-2 GO-FO

RP A. Reed 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K, 1 HBP, 3-1 GO-FO

 

Kane County lost 8-4 Box Score

 

2B G. Amaya 1/2, R, 2 BB

1B D. Vogelbach 0/4, K, E (7, fielding)

3B J. Candelario 0/3, BB, 2 K

LF R. Shoulders 2/4, R, 2B (10), 2 RBI, K

C W. Contreras 2/2, R, HR (4), RBI, E (4, missed catch) - ejected in the 6th inning

RF B. Rademacher 0/2, RBI, BB

SP I. Dickson 4 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 6-4 GO-FO

RP J. Amlung 3 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 3-3 GO-FO

 

OVERALL: 1-3

[Guest]

Probable Starters

 

Iowa: RHP Barret Loux (19.2 IP, 4.47 FIP, 6.41 ERA, 20 K, 13 BB)

Tennesse: RHP Alberto Cabrera (39.2 IP, 3.73 FIP, 4.31 ERA, 39 K, 16 BB)

Daytona: RHP Ben Wells (37.2 IP, 4.71 FIP, 4.06 ERA, 20 K, 13 BB)

Kane County: RHP Ian Dickson (19.2 IP, 5.08 FIP, 6.41 ERA, 16 K, 7 BB)

[Guest]

I'd really like it if Cabrera & Wells had outstanding outings.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I'd really like it if Ben Wells could strike someone out.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I would like it if Cabrera would stop walking the world.

[Guest]

I would like it if Cabrera would stop walking the world.

uh...he did.

 

A 9.2% walk rate for a 24 year old in AA isn't outstanding by any means, but he is posting a 2.44 K/BB ratio right now. It's not great, but it isn't "walking the world", either.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The MLB average is 8.2%. When you are worse than MLB average in your fourth AA stint, it's bad enough for me to consider it a major issue. I mean, there's no objective definition of "walking the world," but it's bad enough for me.

[scarey]

The MLB average is 8.2%. When you are worse than MLB average in your fourth AA stint, it's bad enough for me to consider it a major issue. I mean, there's no objective definition of "walking the world," but it's bad enough for me.

 

LOGIC

[TruffleShuffle]

i'd say that less than 10% is substantially less than "the world."

[Hairyducked Idiot]

OK. What walk percentage do we consider "the world"? Can I get a ruling?

[Guest]

Marcus Hatley (17.5%) and Matt Loosen (18.4%) are walking the world so far.

 

Cabrera is approaching average, but still needs to improve.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

OK. I amend my previous statement.

 

"Cabrera needs to stop walking more than average, especially considering his age and level, before I become much more than passingly interested in him as a starting pitching prospect."

[Guest]

OK. I amend my previous statement.

 

"Cabrera needs to stop walking more than average, especially considering his age and level, before I become much more than passingly interested in him as a starting pitching prospect."

Thanks.

 

Of course, you could go for the much less Dramatic, "Cabrera still needs to cut his walks."

[Hairyducked Idiot]

****less**** dramatic?

 

That doesn't make a lot of sense. I'm not following you.

[Guest]

****less**** dramatic?

 

That doesn't make a lot of sense. I'm not following you.

Of course not. Don't worry about it.

[ctcf]

jesus tapdancing christ

[davell]

Not really sure what happened here, but I basically agree with Kyle. This is a last gasp effort to use him as a SP, he still needs to get better.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Not really sure what happened here, but I basically agree with Kyle. This is a last gasp effort to use him as a SP, he still needs to get better.

 

A brief semantic quibble, nothing more.

 

I really want to like him, and his numbers are a little better this year than any other time he's been a starter. But even if he keeps these numbers up all season, what does that leave you with? A 25-year-old coming off an average AA season.

[Guest]

Not really sure what happened here, but I basically agree with Kyle. This is a last gasp effort to use him as a SP, he still needs to get better.

There's nobody here that disagrees with that sentiment. But there's also no need to overstate the situation, either.

 

It's very possible for a pitcher to do very well in MLB with a walk rate of 9.2% if they're also striking out 22.4% of the batters they face. It would be much better if Cabrera could improve both facets of that equation in his fourth go around at AA. But the situation is hardly dire enough to say he's "walking the world".

[Guest]

Not really sure what happened here, but I basically agree with Kyle. This is a last gasp effort to use him as a SP, he still needs to get better.

 

A brief semantic quibble, nothing more.

 

I really want to like him, and his numbers are a little better this year than any other time he's been a starter. But even if he keeps these numbers up all season, what does that leave you with? A 25-year-old coming off an average AA season.

define average AA season, please

[Hairyducked Idiot]

define average AA season, please

 

3.73 FIP in a league with an average FIP of 3.79.

[Guest]

define average AA season, please

 

3.73 FIP in a league with an average FIP of 3.79.

Hmm...I'd say you got me there.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Ian Stewart with a 2B; OPS slowly but surely creeping toward .500. Baby steps.

[BeerHere]

Loux has given up 7 hits and a walk in 2 1/3 thus far. Iowa is trailing by 3. Stewart with a double for the only ICubs hit. Vitters is not in the lineup.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Vogelbach has 7 errors at 1B already, lol.