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[expletive]

 

This is the injury that really destroyed Choi as a legit prospect, iirc.

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[expletive]

 

This is the injury that really destroyed Choi as a legit prospect, iirc.

 

Did that happen?

 

I remember him reaching the majors as a legit prospect and then he just wasn't good enough after a couple of years in the majors.

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[expletive]

 

This is the injury that really destroyed Choi as a legit prospect, iirc.

 

Did that happen?

 

I remember him reaching the majors as a legit prospect and then he just wasn't good enough after a couple of years in the majors.

While he was at Iowa, he got hit by a pitch in his hand in 2001.

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[expletive]

 

This is the injury that really destroyed Choi as a legit prospect, iirc.

 

Did that happen?

 

I remember him reaching the majors as a legit prospect and then he just wasn't good enough after a couple of years in the majors.

While he was at Iowa, he got hit by a pitch in his hand in 2001.

 

He came back in 2002 and hit 26 HR at Iowa, though. Then was the #22 prospect again in 2003.

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Wikipedia says it is "a common injury in baseball players."

 

Notable cases

 

Jose Canseco, Oakland Athletics outfielder (1989)

Ken Griffey, Jr., Seattle Mariners outfielder (1996)

Jim Thome, Cleveland Indians first baseman (1996)

Eric Hinske, Atlanta Braves first baseman (2003)

Ryan Kalish, Boston Red Sox outfielder (2007)

Dustin Pedroia, Boston Red Sox second baseman (2007)

Troy Tulowitzki, Colorado Rockies shortstop (2010)

Domonic Brown, Philadelphia Phillies outfielder (2011)

Pablo Sandoval, San Francisco Giants third baseman (2011, right; 2012, left)

Nick Markakis, Baltimore Orioles outfielder (2012)

 

So hopefully Choi just sucked.

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[expletive]

 

This is the injury that really destroyed Choi as a legit prospect, iirc.

 

Did that happen?

 

I remember him reaching the majors as a legit prospect and then he just wasn't good enough after a couple of years in the majors.

 

I remember him kind of floating along as borderline good enough, certainly good enough to be a backup or maybe a starter on a bad team, but mysteriously being unable to find jobs while inferior players got decent-sized contracts.

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So does anyone know the recovery time on this in terms of when he can get back on the field?

 

I realize it will probably affect his performance for a while thereafter.

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[expletive]

 

This is the injury that really destroyed Choi as a legit prospect, iirc.

 

Did that happen?

 

I remember him reaching the majors as a legit prospect and then he just wasn't good enough after a couple of years in the majors.

While he was at Iowa, he got hit by a pitch in his hand in 2001.

 

He came back in 2002 and hit 26 HR at Iowa, though. Then was the #22 prospect again in 2003.

I guess he did.

 

I just remembering him becoming different at the plate before and after, though. Of course, second hand memories after 11-12 years are tough.

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Wikipedia says it is "a common injury in baseball players."

 

Notable cases

 

Jose Canseco, Oakland Athletics outfielder (1989)

Ken Griffey, Jr., Seattle Mariners outfielder (1996)

Jim Thome, Cleveland Indians first baseman (1996)

Eric Hinske, Atlanta Braves first baseman (2003)

Ryan Kalish, Boston Red Sox outfielder (2007)

Dustin Pedroia, Boston Red Sox second baseman (2007)

Troy Tulowitzki, Colorado Rockies shortstop (2010)

Domonic Brown, Philadelphia Phillies outfielder (2011)

Pablo Sandoval, San Francisco Giants third baseman (2011, right; 2012, left)

Nick Markakis, Baltimore Orioles outfielder (2012)

 

So hopefully Choi just sucked.

 

Did it happen to Sammy in 96 or was that something else?

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[expletive]

 

This is the injury that really destroyed Choi as a legit prospect, iirc.

 

Did that happen?

 

I remember him reaching the majors as a legit prospect and then he just wasn't good enough after a couple of years in the majors.

 

I remember him kind of floating along as borderline good enough, certainly good enough to be a backup or maybe a starter on a bad team, but mysteriously being unable to find jobs while inferior players got decent-sized contracts.

On the bright side, this won't impact Almora being the only 50/80 player in baseball.

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Did it happen to Sammy in 96 or was that something else?

 

It did. I remember it happening with the bases loaded, so he got his 100th RBI on the HBP that ended his season. He had 40 HR at that point and was a legit threat to hit 50+

 

Apparently, there are two parts you can break. the "hook" of the hamate and the main part. I remember Sosa's injury was the hook.

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[expletive]

 

This is the injury that really destroyed Choi as a legit prospect, iirc.

 

Did that happen?

 

I remember him reaching the majors as a legit prospect and then he just wasn't good enough after a couple of years in the majors.

 

I remember him kind of floating along as borderline good enough, certainly good enough to be a backup or maybe a starter on a bad team, but mysteriously being unable to find jobs while inferior players got decent-sized contracts.

 

His last season was 2005 when he played 133 games for the Dodgers and put up .7 bWAR (1.4 fWAR)

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Evidently he'll resume baseball activities in 3-4 weeks, in games by late May.

 

With a time frame as short as 3 weeks, hopefully that means the severity is really light.

 

This is gonna put a damper on any early season KC trips for me, though. Bummer.

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Jackie Bradley Jr broke his hamate bone in college and has bounced back (as prospects go) and he projects to hit for as much big league power as Almora does.
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Guess it isn't bad for a wrist injury, but still isn't good to see those types of injuries in hitters.

 

Brett Taylor‏@BleacherNation

Nick Markakis' line after coming back from hamate injury last year: .335/.390/.489. He missed a hair over a month. Sky not falling yet

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Not that he's a superb power prospect, but Dustin Geiger broke his hamate last year, and still put up 17HR in 303 AB. If nothing else, shows a more recent data point on the Cubs medical staff.
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Choi was ruined when he broke his head against the Yankees. He was just fine between the hamate injury and then.
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Choi was ruined when he broke his head against the Yankees. He was just fine between the hamate injury and then.

 

Yea, that's how I always saw it, even though he did hit OK for Florida the next year, IIRC.

 

 

If this makes anyone feel better:

 

Treatment

 

Treatment for a baseball player suffering from a hamate bone fracture depends upon when the injury occurred, whether it was days ago or months ago. If the hamate bone fracture occurred days ago, then the likely option is immobilization of the wrist. This means that the player will be in a cast, usually for about four weeks, so that the bone has a chance to heal by itself. Pain medications or anti-inflammatory medication might be given to the baseball player, which can help ease the pain and swelling around the hamate bone. If the hamate bone was fractured months ago and went unnoticed, then surgery is usually required. When surgery is required, the doctor will go in and completely remove the hamate bone from the wrist, since it was not able to heal properly. A baseball player that has surgery to remove the hamate bone is looking at about a three-week recovery time, with the wrist being immobilized in a cast throughout that period.

 

Overall Impact on a Baseball Player

 

 

The good news about the hamate bone fracture is that the impact on a baseball player is minimal, meaning it is not likely to impact the player on a long-term level. Short-term, however, a baseball player might have to wait about six weeks before returning to the field or training on a normal basis. Sometimes, physical therapy might be needed to build up the muscles and strength needed to play baseball regularly again, although it is not common. Although recovery time is short, a baseball player might feel less power hitting or pitching, and the loss of power or speed might continue up to a year after the surgery. Usually, however, within six weeks a baseball player can return to normal activities and not see a significant drop in speed, strength or power.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ycn-10077103

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Even as a prospect, a lot of publications doubted his ability to hit inside pitches, IIRC. Although the collision didn't help things, I think his failure was mainly due to a flaw in his skillset.
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For some reason I always remembered Sosa hitting his 40th HR after he had broken his hand. He did in fact bat twice after getting hit by the pitch, but did not reach base either time. He hit his 40th the day before.

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