Call Your Shot - Hitters

[A New Era]

oops. scratch my pitchers thing, didn't realize. But I now change Stewart to not making the team. Vitters flames out and Valbuena sucks. Yay for a 3B black hole, still.

[Guest]

I didn't realize how hard it was to type those extra letters in prospects. Specs? It's only 4 extra letters.

 

Just a pet peeve.

[Guest]

oops. scratch my pitchers thing, didn't realize. But I now change Stewart to not making the team. Vitters flames out and Valbuena sucks. Yay for a 3B black hole, still.

Well, at least Lake doesn't suck in your scenario.

[davell]

I know I mentioned Lake would come up and put up a Vitters' type line this year, but I'm growing increasingly confident he's a very solid contributor for us from 2014 forward.

[javy knows my name]

Castro goes .320/.370/.520 with well above average D

[seanimal]

rizzo is ok, but takes a slight step back...something around .265/25hrs

stewart is stewart and not the one from 5 years ago

castro is the castro of 2011 not 2012 (improved but still growing)

Scheirholtz does not excel,catches the fans wrath for not being the savior and the undying love from this board is quickly forgotten. Many posters start calling for Colvin others will deny ever saying what a huge upgrade he was...

 

Your parents dropped you on your head. You have no idea how to comprehend the general opinion of this board.

 

i like the cut of this guy's jib

[neely crenshaw]

rizzo is ok, but takes a slight step back...something around .265/25hrs

stewart is stewart and not the one from 5 years ago

castro is the castro of 2011 not 2012 (improved but still growing)

Scheirholtz does not excel,catches the fans wrath for not being the savior and the undying love from this board is quickly forgotten. Many posters start calling for Colvin others will deny ever saying what a huge upgrade he was...

 

Your parents dropped you on your head. You have no idea how to comprehend the general opinion of this board.

 

After being here for entire decade I think I get this board and the general opinion dead on.

 

If Schierholtz does what is being said, he will have a better ops than anyone did last year including Rizzo and Soriano. I would call that better than meh...

If the tandem does what you call for, that would be our top position offensively.

AND if you think no one mentions Colvin if Scheirholtz or even Stewart falters you are nuts! That's not a prediction that's a guarantee.

[Guest]

The only person who made a Schierholtz-specific projection was me, and I certainly don't EXPECT him to do that. That's the fun of the thread, to try to be the one to get the unexpected performances right.

[sneakypower]

Watkins starts more games at 2B than Barney (trade)

[MWV]

B. Jackson earns a midseason promotion, cuts his K% to 30 and posts a .267/.351/.448 line down the stretch.

[davell]

Watkins starts more games at 2B than Barney (trade)

I want a follow up to this. Watkins plays decently?

[neely crenshaw]

The only person who made a Schierholtz-specific projection was me, and I certainly don't EXPECT him to do that. That's the fun of the thread, to try to be the one to get the unexpected performances right.

actually tiger:

Davell has the RF combo at an .825 ops

cubs fan dave has a RF combo line of .275 31 and 107

since the lefty will get a majority of the at bats I'm guessing they would have schierholtz with at least this type of ops

 

slide castro castro (who wants to know who possibly said he(schierholtz) was anything more than meh) called the RF combo formidable and then said schierholtz would drop an .826 ops, which again would be better than anyone on our team last year. So I would say that counts as better than meh...

[Derwood]

You don't get the point if this thread at all

[neely crenshaw]

I called my shot, and my opinion was contested. Why does "calling your shot" or predicting 2013 have to be over the top positive.

[KaiserCesar]

I called my shot, and my opinion was contested. Why does "calling your shot" or predicting 2013 have to be over the top positive.

 

Every point of contention that people raised was about what you claimed to be the opinion of other people.

 

If you had said

 

Scheirholtz does not excel

 

Rather than

 

Scheirholtz does not excel,catches the fans wrath for not being the savior and the undying love from this board is quickly forgotten. Many posters start calling for Colvin others will deny ever saying what a huge upgrade he was...

 

The thread would probably be about a page shorter.

[KaiserCesar]

As for me,

 

-Soriano starts off hot, hitting 15 homers in the first two months and making the All Star game before having a rough August. He finishes the year with a .250/.305/.455 line.

 

-Darwin Barney finishes the year with a .720 OPS and 10 homers. He becomes a heavily rumored trade target in July, but is not dealt.

 

-Sappelt starts the year in AAA, but gets called up in May and enjoys a .780 OPS while mostly facing LHP.

[weis21]

Plus it feels like a lot of these "call your shots" are a bit on the pessimistic side. Especially with the pitchers (which is an area that is suppose to be stronger than the offense)

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I didn't realize how hard it was to type those extra letters in prospects. Specs? It's only 4 extra letters.

 

Just a pet peeve.

 

What's a level beyond pet peeve? Because calling them "specs" is one of the most annoying things I've ever seen a baseball fan do, and I lived through the "In Dusty We Trusty, 130 pitches are fine" era.

[neely crenshaw]

As I said the post was tongue in cheek.

on the other hand there is a very good chance that if Schierholtz does not do well he will be a big topic at some time this summer and I guarantee someone would bring up Colvin. Even though it was a joke, it's a pretty solid prediction.

[Guest]

rizzo is ok, but takes a slight step back...something around .265/25hrs

stewart is stewart and not the one from 5 years ago

castro is the castro of 2011 not 2012 (improved but still growing)

Scheirholtz does not excel,catches the fans wrath for not being the savior and the undying love from this board is quickly forgotten. Many posters start calling for Colvin others will deny ever saying what a huge upgrade he was...

 

I don't think that anyone has ever accused Nate Schierholtz of being a savior. However, if he can hit around his .826 OPS vs. RHP and Hairston his .867 vs. LHP, that would equal one very nice bat for just under 5MM, and even if not, at the price, it's certainly worth it.

 

It's tongue in cheek.

A lot of people have very high expectations for him, and the platoon but not a savior. However if he doesn't turn out, they will distance themselves from those expectations AND there is no doubt that some will bring up Colvin...

Nobody has very high expectations for Nate Schierholtz. What the [expletive] are you talking about?

[Little Slide Rooter]

As I said the post was tongue in cheek.

on the other hand there is a very good chance that if Schierholtz does not do well he will be a big topic at some time this summer and I guarantee someone would bring up Colvin. Even though it was a joke, it's a pretty solid prediction.

 

Not even. Keep in mind, for 2.5MM if he can be a serviceable 4th OF it's a win.

[neely crenshaw]

As I said the post was tongue in cheek.

on the other hand there is a very good chance that if Schierholtz does not do well he will be a big topic at some time this summer and I guarantee someone would bring up Colvin. Even though it was a joke, it's a pretty solid prediction.

 

Not even. Keep in mind, for 2.5MM if he can be a serviceable 4th OF it's a win.

 

Agreed. Same with stewart but how many times did we hear about Colvin when Stewart was bad and then hurt? I;m certainly not saying it would make sense only that it will/would happen.

 

David- please look at my post up a few. I list 3 posts from this thread alone where people have predicted a mid 800 ops, which I again say was better than anyone last year. So when you say nobody has high expectations for him you'd be wrong.

 

The truth is I think he'll be fine in the platoon. Just a little joke toward some posters, certainly not worth all this.

I thought for sure I'd get more heat for not saying Rizzo going to put up HOF numbers than about this...

[Hairyducked Idiot]

You really don't understand that the "call your shot" thread is not about expectations.

[Guest]

... but how many times did we hear about Colvin when Stewart was bad and then hurt?...

Quite a few, but it was you each time.

[neely crenshaw]

... but how many times did we hear about Colvin when Stewart was bad and then hurt?...

Quite a few, but it was you each time.

wrong again. I never, ever brought that up. I didn't even think it. I always said the deal made sense. We had a need and Colvin struggled here, Stewart struggled there, it was a solid deal. We took a gamble with very little risk and it hasn't worked out yet.

 

The only thing I defended Colvin on was that it seemed posters have to down play what he did at Colorado in order to defend the deal. He had a nice year, good for him. It doesn't mean he would have done it here, nor does it change the need to make a deal for a 3b. People said he sucked, and was lucky, he was platooned, and he was playing in colorado..any excuse or statement to feel better about the trade.

Colvin had a very, very solid year. His overall stats and his splits vs lefties were better than Rizzo's. It still doesn't mean we shouldn't have made the deal.