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(I know it's mainly Maholm) but everyone that complained about the Reed signing needs to eat crow.

 

Of course they should. But they won't. David, where are you?

 

The Braves wanted Maholm and Johnson was a throw in. Johnson wasn't going to get the Cubs anything by himself. That said, I'm glad it worked out.

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I don't see how Vizcaino is our #1 pitching prospect with our last draft.

 

He is coming off TJS and is rather young and unproven. Great stuff though. But, what is really the big difference between him and Maples?

 

maples has thrown 1 minor league inning, while vizcaino can get it up to 97 and has had success as a 20 year old in AA?

 

I didn't see his AA stats. I hadn't realized he moved that fast.

 

The stats I saw were all A ball.

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Johnson wasn't going to get the Cubs anything by himself.

Supposedly the Cubs had multiple offers for Johnson, so he was going to get them "something".

 

He got them Chapman and Maholm got them Vizcaino. That's how I'm accounting it.

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I don't see how Vizcaino is our #1 pitching prospect with our last draft.

 

He is coming off TJS and is rather young and unproven. Great stuff though. But, what is really the big difference between him and Maples?

 

maples has thrown 1 minor league inning, while vizcaino can get it up to 97 and has had success as a 20 year old in AA?

 

I didn't see his AA stats. I hadn't realized he moved that fast.

 

The stats I saw were all A ball.

 

still, no

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guys with TJS

 

Stephen strassberg

marino rivera

kerry wood

john smoltz

joakim Soria

chris carpenter

ryan dempster

francisco liriano

phil humber

tim hudson

david wells

billy wagner

josh johnson

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I don't see how Vizcaino is our #1 pitching prospect with our last draft.

 

He is coming off TJS and is rather young and unproven. Great stuff though. But, what is really the big difference between him and Maples?

 

maples has thrown 1 minor league inning, while vizcaino can get it up to 97 and has had success as a 20 year old in AA?

 

And already has his TJS out of the way.

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when did he have tjs?

 

March

 

so he may be ready by spring training?

 

the guy had reconstructive surgery on his elbow. granted, it's not his shoulder, but still, he won't be the same.

 

Actually he should be exactly the same.

 

there's no way of knowing that, for every josh johnson or strasburg, there's darren dreifort or scott williamson

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guys with TJS

 

Stephen strassberg

marino rivera

kerry wood

john smoltz

joakim Soria

chris carpenter

ryan dempster

francisco liriano

phil humber

tim hudson

david wells

billy wagner

josh johnson

One of these things is not like the others.

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guys with TJS

 

Stephen strassberg

marino rivera

kerry wood

john smoltz

joakim Soria

chris carpenter

ryan dempster

francisco liriano

phil humber

tim hudson

david wells

billy wagner

josh johnson

 

and a long list of people like bj ryan and kris benson

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guys with TJS

 

Stephen strassberg

marino rivera

kerry wood

john smoltz

joakim Soria

chris carpenter

ryan dempster

francisco liriano

phil humber

tim hudson

david wells

billy wagner

josh johnson

One of these things is not like the others.

 

he copied it from a bleacher report article

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guys with TJS

 

Stephen strassberg

marino rivera

kerry wood

john smoltz

joakim Soria

chris carpenter

ryan dempster

francisco liriano

phil humber

tim hudson

david wells

billy wagner

josh johnson

 

that strassberg guy is a real jerk. and oh yea, I never new Dan Marino played baseball.

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when did he have tjs?

 

March

 

so he may be ready by spring training?

 

the guy had reconstructive surgery on his elbow. granted, it's not his shoulder, but still, he won't be the same.

 

Actually he should be exactly the same.

 

there's no way of knowing that, for every josh johnson or strasburg, there's darren dreifort or scott williamson

 

but it's no longer the death sentence it was. There is no reason to think he won't be come back. Scouts are actually looking for college kids that have had it already. most of the big busts had it 10 or more years ago.

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im not interested in the tjs results of pitchers who had it done 10 years ago

 

Exactly.

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but it's no longer the death sentence it was. There is no reason to think he won't be come back. Scouts are actually looking for college kids that have had it already. most of the big busts had it 10 or more years ago.

 

Cubs actually drafted one of said guys in the 4th round this year, Josh Conway.

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guys with TJS

 

Stephen strassberg

marino rivera

kerry wood

john smoltz

joakim Soria

chris carpenter

ryan dempster

francisco liriano

phil humber

tim hudson

david wells

billy wagner

josh johnson

One of these things is not like the others.

 

he copied it from a bleacher report article

 

They forgot one

 

 

Tommy John

 

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but it's no longer the death sentence it was. There is no reason to think he won't be come back. Scouts are actually looking for college kids that have had it already. most of the big busts had it 10 or more years ago.

 

oh, he'll come back, there's no doubt. the question is what will he have?

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but it's no longer the death sentence it was. There is no reason to think he won't be come back. Scouts are actually looking for college kids that have had it already. most of the big busts had it 10 or more years ago.

 

oh, he'll come back, there's no doubt. the question is what will he have?

A new ligament.

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