Chicago Blackhawks 2012 Offseason Thread

[kujay]

And the Torres suspension reduced by four games.

 

Whatever.

[jersey cubs fan]

Obviously I'd be ecstatic if the Hawks got Parise, though I don't like the idea of being right back in cap hell. That's why I wonder who goes (other than Hammer).

 

 

I liked it better when they were in cap hell than when they've been comfortably below.

[kujay]

Obviously I'd be ecstatic if the Hawks got Parise, though I don't like the idea of being right back in cap hell. That's why I wonder who goes (other than Hammer).

 

 

I liked it better when they were in cap hell than when they've been comfortably below.

 

Yeah it was fine in 2010 because they were a healthy team. And I know what you're saying. Just don't want to be in a situation where they can't add anyone at the deadline. Not that Stan has a track record of helping the team at that point anyway...

[jersey cubs fan]

Obviously I'd be ecstatic if the Hawks got Parise, though I don't like the idea of being right back in cap hell. That's why I wonder who goes (other than Hammer).

 

 

I liked it better when they were in cap hell than when they've been comfortably below.

 

Yeah it was fine in 2010 because they were a healthy team. And I know what you're saying. Just don't want to be in a situation where they can't add anyone at the deadline. Not that Stan has a track record of helping the team at that point anyway...

 

I would rather build the best team possible by October and risk not being able to add than purposefully go in with space you may never get the chance to use.

[kujay]

Hudler to Calgary. Had no idea he scored 25 goals last year. 4/16

[apete6]

Obviously I'd be ecstatic if the Hawks got Parise, though I don't like the idea of being right back in cap hell. That's why I wonder who goes (other than Hammer).

 

 

I liked it better when they were in cap hell than when they've been comfortably below.

 

Yeah it was fine in 2010 because they were a healthy team. And I know what you're saying. Just don't want to be in a situation where they can't add anyone at the deadline. Not that Stan has a track record of helping the team at that point anyway...

 

I would rather build the best team possible by October and risk not being able to add than purposefully go in with space you may never get the chance to use.

 

Yep!

 

Also, if our drafts have been as good as advertised, we can give one of those guys a shot if there's an injury. Better than Stan trading for Oduya and then extending him at a ridiculous number.

 

Cap hell and winning big>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cap safe and being average.

[kujay]

Obviously I'd be ecstatic if the Hawks got Parise, though I don't like the idea of being right back in cap hell. That's why I wonder who goes (other than Hammer).

 

 

I liked it better when they were in cap hell than when they've been comfortably below.

 

Yeah it was fine in 2010 because they were a healthy team. And I know what you're saying. Just don't want to be in a situation where they can't add anyone at the deadline. Not that Stan has a track record of helping the team at that point anyway...

 

I would rather build the best team possible by October and risk not being able to add than purposefully go in with space you may never get the chance to use.

 

Yep!

 

Also, if our drafts have been as good as advertised, we can give one of those guys a shot if there's an injury. Better than Stan trading for Oduya and then extending him at a ridiculous number.

 

Cap hell and winning big>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cap safe and being average.

 

Can't we split the difference?

 

To your point though, I would have loved for Bowman to pass on Oduya and give Dylan Olsen more of a chance. Certainly could have signed another guy like Brookbank and saved a few million.

[kujay]

I'm probably reading way to much into Twitter posts here, but I'd bet Pittsburgh is still in on Parise.

[jersey cubs fan]

Can't we split the difference?

 

Is Parise going to actually put them in cap hell? They are 7.75 under right now. If they sign something that puts him just above Kane/Toews cap hit (6.3) they still have some room, plus, 3-4 candidates to be moved away for more space.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm probably reading way to much into Twitter posts here, but I'd bet Pittsburgh is still in on Parise.

 

I'm assuming Pit/Det/Chi/NJ in that order.

[biittner77]

I really don't think it is an overpay. Bouillon and Bickel (Stu, not Brian) both got $1.5M, Bickel for two years. I'd take Brookbank over both of them.

 

RDS is saying Brodeur got a two year deal from NJ and is staying but I don't see it anywhere else just yet.

 

Unless he jumps in and signs one of the big names, Bowman will have to make the big improvements by trades now. Or he will just sit by as a lot of us feared he would and bring back basically the same team.

 

We still know Hammer is going. But probably not for much since everyone knows he's being shopped. I'm not saying send them Hammer, but what about talking to LA about Bernier?

 

 

I'd be shocked if the bolded part happened, ie dumping him for little return.

[kujay]

I really don't think it is an overpay. Bouillon and Bickel (Stu, not Brian) both got $1.5M, Bickel for two years. I'd take Brookbank over both of them.

 

RDS is saying Brodeur got a two year deal from NJ and is staying but I don't see it anywhere else just yet.

 

Unless he jumps in and signs one of the big names, Bowman will have to make the big improvements by trades now. Or he will just sit by as a lot of us feared he would and bring back basically the same team.

 

We still know Hammer is going. But probably not for much since everyone knows he's being shopped. I'm not saying send them Hammer, but what about talking to LA about Bernier?

 

 

I'd be shocked if the bolded part happened, ie dumping him for little return.

 

He's a relatively solid stay-at-home defenseman. I'm sure there's a market for him. But I'd expect draft picks/prospects.

[jersey cubs fan]

RT @JoshRimerHockey: Parise announcement could be coming up here. Apparently he's going to talk to reporters in a couple mins. Stay tuned!!

[kujay]

Best tweet of the day:

 

Chi Dan‏@woodstennis_44

 

@TramyersCSN Parise and Suter are just waiting to see where Huet will sign

[kujay]

RT @JoshRimerHockey: Parise announcement could be coming up here. Apparently he's going to talk to reporters in a couple mins. Stay tuned!!

 

And now the Twitter feed has fallen deadly silent. Productivity has gone to zero here. Need this over with.

[UMFan83]

@JoshRimerHockey

 

Still be told its down to Pittsburgh and Chicago.

 

Just a minute ago

[kujay]

[expletive] Parise hasn't decided yet. No timetable.

[jersey cubs fan]

RT @dshoalts: Zach Parise: I'm getting closer but haven't made a decision. I haven't set and deadlines.

[kujay]

David Shoalts‏@dshoalts

 

Parise says he will return home tomorrow and discuss things with his family. Would not say which teams in contention but Devils still in mix

[UMFan83]

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE DUDE

[UMFan83]

We need Kane to "bump into" Parise and convince him to go binge drinking until he decides to be a Hawk.

[hawkeyecub]

I really don't think it is an overpay. Bouillon and Bickel (Stu, not Brian) both got $1.5M, Bickel for two years. I'd take Brookbank over both of them.

 

For a team that has been so worried about cap space the past couple years, spending over a million for such a non-essential player in any given year seems to be a waste. If all you are going to do is deal away your costly vets and stockpile prospects it doesn't make much sense to turn around and keep wasting millions on back-end guys.

 

It's barely over a million a year for a guy who offers some size and stability on the back line. Things this team needs. I just don't see how that's a waste. The 5/6 D are important in the regular season if you want 2 and 7 to be worth a [expletive] come April.

 

Agree. Here was SCH's take: http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2012/7/1/3130688/hawks-sign-sheldon-brookbank

[seanimal]

GET IT DONE, STANLEY

 

i hope parise goes home to his family right as dinner is about to be served and walks in to discover stan bowman at the dinner table just as he finishes a story that leads to uproarious laughter all around the table and gramma parise saying that it's her happiest moment since grampa died

[UMFan83]

John Jaeckel ‏@jaeckel

Late word, the Hawks made significant offers to both Suter and Parise. Awaiting word, and are prepared to sign BOTH or either.

 

guy from hockeybuzz.com.

[Butterscup1679666578]

man, that'd be so sweet. not holding my breath though. i feel like parise is pittsburgh bound