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Irrelevant Dude

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A good coach and a good man (I don't care what the smart@sses, say, he was a good guy and he did actually go to the police).

He did? He went to the AD, which is not the same as going to the police. How a "good man" could live with himself knowing what he was allowing to continue, I have no idea.

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Meh. Too bad he didn't feel more compelled to stop a child rapist in his own locker room.

 

Yes, it is too bad. He had a terrible lapse in judgment. Doesn't mean anyone should be happy he's dead.

Post Count Padder Chicago Cubs

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A good coach and a good man (I don't care what the smart@sses, say, he was a good guy and he did actually go to the police).

He did? He went to the AD, which is not the same as going to the police. How a "good man" could live with himself knowing what he was allowing to continue, I have no idea.

He went to the campus police, which actually has more power than most college campus police corps. And Sandusky had been off his staff for three years at that point. He wasn't keeping tabs on him to know if he was on campus or not. Were people not actually paying attention to this story or just believing what ESPN told them to believe?

 

As Derwood said, you can feel how you want about it, but don't wish ill on a man who just passed away. He wasn't a child rapist.

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A good coach and a good man (I don't care what the smart@sses, say, he was a good guy and he did actually go to the police).

He did? He went to the AD, which is not the same as going to the police. How a "good man" could live with himself knowing what he was allowing to continue, I have no idea.

He went to the campus police, which actually has more power than most college campus police corps. And Sandusky had been off his staff for three years at that point. He wasn't keeping tabs on him to know if he was on campus or not. Were people not actually paying attention to this story or just believing what ESPN told them to believe?

 

Impotent rage is at an all-time high today

Tracer Bullet Knoxville Smokies

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A good coach and a good man (I don't care what the smart@sses, say, he was a good guy and he did actually go to the police).

He did? He went to the AD, which is not the same as going to the police. How a "good man" could live with himself knowing what he was allowing to continue, I have no idea.

He went to the campus police, which actually has more power than most college campus police corps. And Sandusky had been off his staff for three years at that point. He wasn't keeping tabs on him to know if he was on campus or not. Were people not actually paying attention to this story or just believing what ESPN told them to believe?

 

As Derwood said, you can feel how you want about it, but don't wish ill on a man who just passed away. He wasn't a child rapist.

 

If you truly mean that people can feel how they want, then you have to accept that they may wish ill on him. a lot of people hold him responsible for harm to children because he failed to do more to prevent it. you may disagree, but you can't tell them that they can't express those feelings.

rocket Iowa Cubs

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in all honesty, i was starting to believe paterno was getting a little bit of a raw deal in this situation. that is until a few days ago, when he said something to the effect of "i've never even heard of a man raping another man." seriously?!

 

either paterno was the most naive man to EVER live, or he was downplaying the situation is his mind to save the face of penn state football.

 

just when i was starting to feel a bit of sympathy for him, he lost it all in one sentence.

 

i can't stand penn state or their self-righteous fans, but it is sad to see it end like this.

Old Style Knoxville Smokies

Old Style

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Meh. Too bad he didn't feel more compelled to stop a child rapist in his own locker room.

 

Yes, it is too bad. He had a terrible lapse in judgment. Doesn't mean anyone should be happy he's dead.

Never said I was happy he's dead. The thing that bugs me now is how everyone is canonizing St. JoePa as the greatest man who ever lived.

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Meh. Too bad he didn't feel more compelled to stop a child rapist in his own locker room.

 

Yes, it is too bad. He had a terrible lapse in judgment. Doesn't mean anyone should be happy he's dead.

Never said I was happy he's dead. The thing that bugs me now is how everyone is canonizing St. JoePa as the greatest man who ever lived.

 

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Post Count Padder Chicago Cubs

Post Count Padder

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Meh. Too bad he didn't feel more compelled to stop a child rapist in his own locker room.

 

Yes, it is too bad. He had a terrible lapse in judgment. Doesn't mean anyone should be happy he's dead.

Never said I was happy he's dead. The thing that bugs me now is how everyone is canonizing St. JoePa as the greatest man who ever lived.

Holy hyperbole

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I don't have much new to add -- this is a tragic story on more than one level, from Paterno's tarnished legacy to the victims of Sandusky.

 

The most preferrable scenario would have involved Sandusky getting hit by a truck around 1970 or so.

Magnetic Curses College Ball

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A good coach and a good man (I don't care what the smart@sses, say, he was a good guy and he did actually go to the police). He'll be missed.

 

i don't recall seeing that he went to the police. even if he did, it seems he just forgot about it soon afterwards. if he went to the police with any intention of doing the right thing, he quickly forgot what the right thing was and did nothing as sandusky held an office on campus.

 

furthermore, paterno disinherited sandusky for the reason of spending too much time at the second mile. he knew that 1. sandusky molested a boy in the shower and 2. sandusky spent a ton of time with young boys.

 

he either covered it up or he's incredibly incompetent and lucky nothing came out until november of 2011. and according to inside sources, paterno knew everything that went on with the program, people referred to him as "the rat" because he had to know everything.

 

so what happened? why didn't he follow up? why didn't he make sure that the cops were following up? why did he allow sandusky to maintain a presence on campus? what info did he take to the "police" and what happened during that meeting?

 

it's too bad he's taking what he knew to the grave with him. but i'm glad he died knowing the legacy he cared so much about was irreparably damaged. you can feel sorry for your dishonored demigod if you want, but by all accounts he did this to himself.

Magnetic Curses College Ball

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I don't have much new to add -- this is a tragic story on more than one level, from Paterno's tarnished legacy to the victims of Sandusky.

 

The most preferrable scenario would have involved Sandusky getting hit by a truck around 1970 or so.

 

paterno's tarnished legacy is nothing. boo [expletive] hoo, the guy was rich and powerful and fell because of his own inaction. he had the power to stop sandusky, to bring him to justice and he either covered it up or did nothing.

 

sandusky being dead in 1970 would have been a preferable solution, but it wouldn't have changed the fact that paterno was an [expletive] and the type of person who would cover up a kiddie rape scandal, hardly worthy of this idolatry.

Magnetic Curses College Ball

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Meh. Too bad he didn't feel more compelled to stop a child rapist in his own locker room.

 

Yes, it is too bad. He had a terrible lapse in judgment. Doesn't mean anyone should be happy he's dead.

Never said I was happy he's dead. The thing that bugs me now is how everyone is canonizing St. JoePa as the greatest man who ever lived.

Holy hyperbole

 

that was tongue-in-cheek hyperbole, dingus. but you get the point.

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