Jim Boeheim

[Magnetic Curses]

I really have to question the rationale behind statutes of limitation for sexual abuse of minors.

 

its insane. survivors of this type of abuse should be allowed to take their damn time with coming forward. putting limitations on it is asinine and byzantine. it protects molesters due to the extreme stress the abuse puts on the victims.

 

it's tough because you also have the oprah "repressed memories" crowd, psychologists with theories that are highly specious and then very suggestable people with wild imaginations. being wrongly accused of something like that is nearly as bad as the actual criminal act itself.

[jersey cubs fan]

I really have to question the rationale behind statutes of limitation for sexual abuse of minors.

 

its insane. survivors of this type of abuse should be allowed to take their damn time with coming forward. putting limitations on it is asinine and byzantine. it protects molesters due to the extreme stress the abuse puts on the victims.

 

it's tough because you also have the oprah "repressed memories" crowd, psychologists with theories that are highly specious and then very suggestable people with wild imaginations. being wrongly accused of something like that is nearly as bad as the actual criminal act itself.

 

Yes, that can be an issue. But a statute of limitations of 5 years (or whatever ridiculously short number this was) is a gross overreaction to such concern.

[Tracer Bullet]

What's a reasonable alternative time?

[jersey cubs fan]

What's a reasonable alternative time?

 

I would think 15-20 from the time they turn 18. It's not reasonable to expect a 12 year old victim to press charges by the time he's 25, or whatever the hell needed to happen to make this stick.

[Tracer Bullet]

What's a reasonable alternative time?

 

I would think 15-20 from the time they turn 18. It's not reasonable to expect a 12 year old victim to press charges by the time he's 25, or whatever the hell needed to happen to make this stick.

 

So effectively 25+ years from any alleged incident? I know it sounds good here. Any time there's a crime, the SOL seems like it should extend to whenever a charge is brought. But 25 years is a long time for witnesses to remember stuff and evidence to sit around.

[jersey cubs fan]

What's a reasonable alternative time?

 

I would think 15-20 from the time they turn 18. It's not reasonable to expect a 12 year old victim to press charges by the time he's 25, or whatever the hell needed to happen to make this stick.

 

So effectively 25+ years from any alleged incident? I know it sounds good here. Any time there's a crime, the SOL seems like it should extend to whenever a charge is brought. But 25 years is a long time for witnesses to remember stuff and evidence to sit around.

 

You aren't talking about any old crime. Raping a kid who stands very little chance of testifying against his abuser any sooner demands a longer period of time.

[minnesotacubsfan]

What's a reasonable alternative time?

 

I would think 15-20 from the time they turn 18. It's not reasonable to expect a 12 year old victim to press charges by the time he's 25, or whatever the hell needed to happen to make this stick.

 

So effectively 25+ years from any alleged incident? I know it sounds good here. Any time there's a crime, the SOL seems like it should extend to whenever a charge is brought. But 25 years is a long time for witnesses to remember stuff and evidence to sit around.

 

You aren't talking about any old crime. Raping a kid who stands very little chance of testifying against his abuser any sooner demands a longer period of time.

 

 

I know someone who held the knowledge of their own rape for 16 years just because the perpetrator was someone they looked up to. I'm pretty sure they remember the events as if they happened yesterday.

[jersey cubs fan]

http://deadspin.com/5868467/prison-inmate-says-bernie-fine-sexually-abused-him-40-years-ago-pressured-him-into-oral-sex-as-recently-as-this-year

 

 

well, that's unsexy

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What's a reasonable alternative time?

 

I would think 15-20 from the time they turn 18. It's not reasonable to expect a 12 year old victim to press charges by the time he's 25, or whatever the hell needed to happen to make this stick.

 

So effectively 25+ years from any alleged incident? I know it sounds good here. Any time there's a crime, the SOL seems like it should extend to whenever a charge is brought. But 25 years is a long time for witnesses to remember stuff and evidence to sit around.

 

You aren't talking about any old crime. Raping a kid who stands very little chance of testifying against his abuser any sooner demands a longer period of time.

 

Longer than what? Saying the SOL should be "longer" goes to my point above - it seems like it should last until a claim is brought. It's just not realistic to have a 25 year SOL.

[jersey cubs fan]

Longer than what? Saying the SOL should be "longer" goes to my point above - it seems like it should last until a claim is brought. It's just not realistic to have a 25 year SOL.

 

Longer than what the law in NY allows. What's so unrealistic about it? A person who routinely rapes a 10 year old does so with the knowledge that they can essentially scare the person into not telling on them. Expecting that person to come forward within a couple years is crazy. The SOL is practically a weapon used by the perpetrator. If you can go back and use new evidence from murders long ago, why the heck is it unrealistic to do so with child rape?

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Longer than what? Saying the SOL should be "longer" goes to my point above - it seems like it should last until a claim is brought. It's just not realistic to have a 25 year SOL.

 

Longer than what the law in NY allows. What's so unrealistic about it? A person who routinely rapes a 10 year old does so with the knowledge that they can essentially scare the person into not telling on them. Expecting that person to come forward within a couple years is crazy. The SOL is practically a weapon used by the perpetrator. If you can go back and use new evidence from murders long ago, why the heck is it unrealistic to do so with child rape?

 

What new evidence? You mean DNA evidence? If there were some new DNA evidence in an old rape case, that's a different situation. You were suggesting that the SOL be effectively 25 years in all child molestation cases.

 

The expectation isn't that they'll come forward in 2 years, as you just said. I don't know what the NY law is, but it's not 2 years. It's also not 25. Neither of those is realistic.