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OK, [expletive] the hell? Adrian Gonzalez? That's just...bizarre. Gonzalez is 29, he's been an 18 WAR player the last 3 years, and worth $28 million (2009), $22 million (2010) and $30 million (2011) each of those years.

 

And I know it'll sound like I'm trying to hard to defend Epstein, but I still think it's way too early to declare the Crawford signing a bust. Nobody is going to argue that this first season with the Red Sox wasn't a disaster, but the guy just turned 30 and in the two years prior he was a 13.5 WAR player and worth $26.5 million and $30.4 million.

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OK, [expletive] the hell? Adrian Gonzalez? That's just...bizarre. Gonzalez is 29, he's been an 18 WAR player the last 3 years, and worth $28 million (2009), $22 million (2010) and $30 million (2011) each of those years.

 

And I know it'll sound like I'm trying to hard to defend Epstein, but I still think it's way too early to declare the Crawford signing a bust. Nobody is going to argue that this first season as Red Sox wasn't a disaster, but the guy just turned 30 and in the two years prior he was a 13.5 WAR player and worth $26.5 million and $30.4 million.

 

I agree completely on the second point. The future is unwritten. Crawford had a terrible year; but that happens. He's still of an age where he could easily rebound -- and has done so in the past -- and be very productive again. I find it very premature and speculative to consider Crawford an outright bust for his contract. This isn't a Soriano situation.

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OK, [expletive] the hell? Adrian Gonzalez? That's just...bizarre. Gonzalez is 29, he's been an 18 WAR player the last 3 years, and worth $28 million (2009), $22 million (2010) and $30 million (2011) each of those years.

 

And I know it'll sound like I'm trying to hard to defend Epstein, but I still think it's way too early to declare the Crawford signing a bust. Nobody is going to argue that this first season with the Red Sox wasn't a disaster, but the guy just turned 30 and in the two years prior he was a 13.5 WAR player and worth $26.5 million and $30.4 million.

 

I don't think Adrian Gonzalez was in the list of worst contracts... they just had a list up top of the contracts with the most money left on them. The "these contracts are really shitty" list started a bit lower.

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OK, [expletive] the hell? Adrian Gonzalez? That's just...bizarre. Gonzalez is 29, he's been an 18 WAR player the last 3 years, and worth $28 million (2009), $22 million (2010) and $30 million (2011) each of those years.

 

You do realize that the first list is a list of players with the most money remaining on their contracts, right? Poz isn't arguing that Gonzalez has a bad contract.

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OK, [expletive] the hell? Adrian Gonzalez? That's just...bizarre. Gonzalez is 29, he's been an 18 WAR player the last 3 years, and worth $28 million (2009), $22 million (2010) and $30 million (2011) each of those years.

 

You do realize that the first list is a list of players with the most money remaining on their contracts, right? Poz isn't arguing that Gonzalez has a bad contract.

 

Right. Though he did say he'd rather pay a guy $100m for 4 years than $100m for 6 which is ridiculously stupid.

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the Crawford deal was bad mostly because so much of his value is predicated on otherworldly defense, which is heavily negated by playing in Boston's miniscule LF
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OK, [expletive] the hell? Adrian Gonzalez? That's just...bizarre. Gonzalez is 29, he's been an 18 WAR player the last 3 years, and worth $28 million (2009), $22 million (2010) and $30 million (2011) each of those years.

 

You do realize that the first list is a list of players with the most money remaining on their contracts, right? Poz isn't arguing that Gonzalez has a bad contract.

 

Clearly I did not. I AIN'T GOT TIME TO READ.

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the Crawford deal was bad mostly because so much of his value is predicated on otherworldly defense, which is heavily negated by playing in Boston's miniscule LF

 

I agree with this, though I think that Crawford's bad season is overblown. I think he can hit really well there once he starts using the wall more. He's actually got solid power the other way IIRC. I had dreams of a Soriano for Crawford swap. Soriano might actually do alright in Fenway's LF is what I said to myself. They'd get a couple of years of financial freedom and let a rangy LF in a rangy LF.

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that wasn't a list of the worst contracts in baseball. it was a list of the biggest contracts.

 

scroll down

 

i know he talks about the worst contracts, but he doesn't say anything bad about gonzalez's contract

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that wasn't a list of the worst contracts in baseball. it was a list of the biggest contracts.

 

scroll down

 

i know he talks about the worst contracts, but he doesn't say anything bad about gonzalez's contract

Start over. Pretend like you're reading this thread for the first time.

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that wasn't a list of the worst contracts in baseball. it was a list of the biggest contracts.

 

scroll down

 

i know he talks about the worst contracts, but he doesn't say anything bad about gonzalez's contract

Start over. Pretend like you're reading this thread for the first time.

 

No. Pretend you're reading this thread as a person that reads an entire thread before commenting on the 2nd post.

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