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The Cuban-American group Vigilia Mambisa plans to boycott and demonstrate against Miami Marlins until manager Ozzie Guillen steps down, according to a report on NBCMiami.com.
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Someone needs to give Ozzie a show where he comments on all sorts of foreign policy topics.

 

And in the finale, he and his family die.

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Someone needs to give Ozzie a show where he comments on all sorts of foreign policy topics.

 

And in the finale, him and his family die.

 

SPOILER ALERT

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it pisses me off big time that those ex-bourgeois asses in miami are acting so indignant.

 

we get it, you would rather be criminals or play the mambo music than have a decent country where people have education, homes, and community.

 

1. nobody forced them to leave, they left because they shut down the casinos and came down on the bourgeois, eliminating the decadence rivaled only by pre-revolutionary france. oh no, the US wasn't making their banana republic rich anymore, how sad for them. i guess they'll have to stay in cuba and work or move to miami and not work.

 

2. nobody executed their relatives unless they actively plotted to overthrow the government, and they were better deaths than batista would have given to the revolutionaries. nobody threw anyone in jail unjustly or without giving them a chance to either live in an egalitarian society or leave. the people in jail chose to be in jail.

 

3. dan lebatard needs to contract syphilis if he hasn't already. comparing fidel castro to hitler willingly perpetuates the myth of the anti-capitalist monster.

 

4. ozzie should stand behind his words. fidel castro is the greatest hero that cuba has ever known.

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On the plus side, it likely eliminates a potential strong competitor from the Soler sweepstakes.

 

Good point, it at least complicates things.

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I was thinking maybe it would do the opposite and they'd make some kind of insane offer to Soler to try and placate the Cuban community. I mean, it's Loria we're talking about here, and he's not firing Ozzie, so it wouldn't surprise me to see him do something crazy.
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They are suspending him apparently. It's weird to me though because part of the reason you hire Ozzie is because he says stupid things and then you punish him for doing so.
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They are suspending him apparently. It's weird to me though because part of the reason you hire Ozzie is because he says stupid things and then you punish him for doing so.

 

It is?

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They are suspending him apparently. It's weird to me though because part of the reason you hire Ozzie is because he says stupid things and then you punish him for doing so.

 

It is?

 

Someone like Miami who is looking for publicity? Yes.

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Oh, come on. They clearly didn't hire him to basically [expletive] say "I'm a big fan of Fidel Castro." If you can't see the difference as to how THAT might be an issue for the MIAMI Marlins vs. the usual Ozzie rants then I don't even know what to say.
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Of course I see the difference. You hired someone who you know is going to push buttons and you wanted the publicity that comes with it but when he pushes the wrong ones you get pissed. I just don't agree with it.
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Suspended five games

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120409&content_id=28238542&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

 

 

Stupid. Hate seeing these types of suspensions over someone's words or opinions. Although I certainly understand why, from a business standpoint, the Marlins are doing this. Still lame.

 

In a weird way, it almost seems like firing him would make more sense than suspending.

 

By firing him, they're saying, "We don't want to be associated with this guy," which kind of makes sense from the standpoint of not alienating a large portion of their fanbase. It's not so much a punishment as it is detaching themselves from him.

 

Suspending him is just weird. They're punishing him for saying something but he's still there and his presence is still going to piss off most of those same people. I don't think the suspension really placates anyone, either.

 

That's not to say I think a firing would be justified (nor did I expect it), but the suspension just feels kind of weird.

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Suspended five games

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120409&content_id=28238542&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

 

 

Stupid. Hate seeing these types of suspensions over someone's words or opinions. Although I certainly understand why, from a business standpoint, the Marlins are doing this. Still lame.

 

In a weird way, it almost seems like firing him would make more sense than suspending.

 

By firing him, they're saying, "We don't want to be associated with this guy," which kind of makes sense from the standpoint of not alienating a large portion of their fanbase. It's not so much a punishment as it is detaching themselves from him.

 

Suspending him is just weird. They're punishing him for saying something but he's still there and his presence is still going to piss off most of those same people. I don't think the suspension really placates anyone, either.

 

That's not to say I think a firing would be justified (nor did I expect it), but the suspension just feels kind of weird.

 

Remember though, they didn't just sign Ozzie. They traded for him. They gotta get something out of that.

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Suspended five games

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120409&content_id=28238542&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

 

 

Stupid. Hate seeing these types of suspensions over someone's words or opinions. Although I certainly understand why, from a business standpoint, the Marlins are doing this. Still lame.

 

You don't think somebody should be able to be suspended over his words?

 

I didn't say that. I said I'm usually not a fan of when it happens, but do understand why they occur.

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Of course I see the difference. You hired someone who you know is going to push buttons and you wanted the publicity that comes with it but when he pushes the wrong ones you get pissed. I just don't agree with it.

 

Again, the gulf between the usual Ozzie rant and Ozzie proclaiming his appreciation of Fidel Castro when he's the new manager of the team in Miami trying to court the Cuban population is gigantic. Glossing over it as just "pushing buttons" is just, I dunno, some kind of fallacy or something.

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I don't understand how a suspension is weird. Firing him over that would have been incredibly stupid. You say something controversial that offends a large portion of your fan base, apologize, get suspended and then back to normal before the next issue distracts everybody.
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Suspended five games

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120409&content_id=28238542&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

 

 

Stupid. Hate seeing these types of suspensions over someone's words or opinions. Although I certainly understand why, from a business standpoint, the Marlins are doing this. Still lame.

 

You don't think somebody should be able to be suspended over his words?

 

I didn't say that. I said I'm usually not a fan of when it happens, but do understand why they occur.

 

"Hate seeing" it seems to indicate you don't think it should happen, but, whatever.

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