NFL Week 2

[Banedon]

I'd like to see some perennial loser in college football try to go with a strategy similar to the coach's, like Eastern Michigan or something, why not? What do they have to lose. More games?

 

I really wonder how long it would take a coach to adjust if a small conference team randomly, without warning, started playing that way. I gotta think it would have tremendous success for at least a quarter. Not only is it something the players have never seen before but the coach has never probably thought about stopping a defense like that. I gotta think there is some way to get a quick screen or slant to a receiver. And once you manage to get the ball to the receiver, its likely 6. Eventually there would be a fool proof adjustment and it would stop working.

 

Well you definitely couldn't rush 11 on every play. The whole idea is having a whole playbook full of gadget, weird plays.

[TruffleShuffle]

yeah it seems completely insane to me that you'd never put the ball, even on 4th and long from your own end of the field, but i'm not going to knock this guy without knowing the statistics behind it.

 

of course, it helps to have a really good qb (judging by the video in the link, their qb was easily the best player on the field... he threw accurately and scrambled out of trouble easily)

[Guest]

yeah it seems completely insane to me that you'd never put the ball, even on 4th and long from your own end of the field, but i'm not going to knock this guy without knowing the statistics behind it.

 

I think it probably makes more sense at the High School level. At that level you're probably lucky to get a 40 yard punt, and on average it'll get returned what, 5-15 yards? So if it's only really a difference of 20-30 yards of field position, and you have a pretty good offense, the odds are probably pretty good that your odds of converting a 4th down are greater than the difference of your opponent scoring from the 20 v. the 40.

 

EDIT: That last sentence is a grammatical nightmare, but I don't know how else to say it.

[Warpticon]

Not NFL related, but this still seems like the best place for this. I think we've had articles posted about this coach on here before...the guy that doesn't believe in punting.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/scorecasting/09/15/kelley.pulaski/?xid=cnnbin

 

On defense, Pulaski put all 11 players in the box, leaving every receiver uncovered. The strategy worked, too, as the quarterback misfired under the pressure (and, surely, the unprecedented experience) of facing an 11-man rush.

 

ROFL...I'd really like to see this.

 

Fun fact: Pulaski Academy is a 5 minute drive from my house. Okay, so it wasn't all that fun. But yeah, this coach is definitely has a unique outlook on football. I definitely think there's merit to his position on punting at the high school level, but as the average talent and execution level increases, I feel it would become less effective.

Edited September 17, 2011 by Warpticon

[CubColtPacer]

Not NFL related, but this still seems like the best place for this. I think we've had articles posted about this coach on here before...the guy that doesn't believe in punting.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/scorecasting/09/15/kelley.pulaski/?xid=cnnbin

 

On defense, Pulaski put all 11 players in the box, leaving every receiver uncovered. The strategy worked, too, as the quarterback misfired under the pressure (and, surely, the unprecedented experience) of facing an 11-man rush.

 

ROFL...I'd really like to see this.

 

Fun fact: Pulaski Academy is an 5 minute drive from my house. Okay, so it wasn't all that fun. But yeah, this coach is definitely has a unique outlook on football. I definitely think there's merit to his position on punting at the high school level, but as the average talent and execution level increases, I feel it would become less effective.

 

From what I remember from what the statistics say, in college and the pros that you should almost never punt on 4th and short (3 or less) from anywhere on the field, although I've only seen a few coaches ever do it deep in their own territory (Bill Belichick being the most famous one). As you start to cross midfield the amount of yardage starts to go way up from when you shouldn't punt, and you should almost never punt from any down and distance inside the opponent's 40. Of course the rules are predicated on average offenses-the better either your offense is or your opponent's offense is the more often you should go for it, and the worse either one is the more often you should punt.

[Warpticon]

Not NFL related, but this still seems like the best place for this. I think we've had articles posted about this coach on here before...the guy that doesn't believe in punting.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/scorecasting/09/15/kelley.pulaski/?xid=cnnbin

 

On defense, Pulaski put all 11 players in the box, leaving every receiver uncovered. The strategy worked, too, as the quarterback misfired under the pressure (and, surely, the unprecedented experience) of facing an 11-man rush.

 

ROFL...I'd really like to see this.

 

Fun fact: Pulaski Academy is an 5 minute drive from my house. Okay, so it wasn't all that fun. But yeah, this coach is definitely has a unique outlook on football. I definitely think there's merit to his position on punting at the high school level, but as the average talent and execution level increases, I feel it would become less effective.

 

From what I remember from what the statistics say, in college and the pros that you should almost never punt on 4th and short (3 or less) from anywhere on the field, although I've only seen a few coaches ever do it deep in their own territory (Bill Belichick being the most famous one). As you start to cross midfield the amount of yardage starts to go way up from when you shouldn't punt, and you should almost never punt from any down and distance inside the opponent's 40. Of course the rules are predicated on average offenses-the better either your offense is or your opponent's offense is the more often you should go for it, and the worse either one is the more often you should punt.

 

I think the quality and accuracy of the punter could also play into the equation a bit as well. I'd like to see the stats on how effective the opponent is at scoring when, say, pinned inside the 10 vs starting from close to midfield. I definitely agree with the sentiment that football teams tend to do things because of conventional wisdom and not through analysis of the specific situation, though it's nowhere near as bad as baseball in that regard.

[TruffleShuffle]

you'll never guess what the bum wrote about this week in the williston herald. something that all north dakotans are passionate about - the 49ers.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

you'll never guess what the bum wrote about this week in the williston herald. something that all north dakotans are passionate about - the 49ers.

 

Am I the only one who read the article and kept thinking "Who gives a [expletive]?"

[NonProfitCow]

you'll never guess what the bum wrote about this week in the williston herald. something that all north dakotans are passionate about - the 49ers.

da bum with some mad Christmas rhymes

 

I hope he gets to walk under the mistletoe with a beautiful woman.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

you'll never guess what the bum wrote about this week in the williston herald. something that all north dakotans are passionate about - the 49ers.

da bum with some mad Christmas rhymes

 

I hope he gets to walk under the mistletoe with a beautiful woman.

 

Maybe she'll leave him a gift under his pillow.

[ELCABALLO45]

Every good feeling from Week 1 and from winning the Superbowl from last year goes away if Green Bay finds a way to lose this weekend.

[Magnetic Curses]

Every good feeling from Week 1 and from winning the Superbowl from last year goes away if Green Bay finds a way to lose this weekend.

 

cut it out with the theatrics, how on earth does Green Bay lose tomorrow?

[TruffleShuffle]

you'll never guess what the bum wrote about this week in the williston herald. something that all north dakotans are passionate about - the 49ers.

da bum with some mad Christmas rhymes

 

I hope he gets to walk under the mistletoe with a beautiful woman.

 

yeah i found all the Christmas stuff puzzling since (a) he doesn't celebrate Christmas and (b) it's [expletive] september.

[NonProfitCow]

you'll never guess what the bum wrote about this week in the williston herald. something that all north dakotans are passionate about - the 49ers.

da bum with some mad Christmas rhymes

 

I hope he gets to walk under the mistletoe with a beautiful woman.

 

yeah i found all the Christmas stuff puzzling since (a) he doesn't celebrate Christmas and (b) it's [expletive] september.

2 months until Christmas and he's already run out of that material well.

[bcl412]

Every good feeling from Week 1 and from winning the Superbowl from last year goes away if Green Bay finds a way to lose this weekend.

 

cut it out with the theatrics, how on earth does Green Bay lose tomorrow?

 

Cam Newton being a freak of nature who isn't phased by any level of football is the only way. It's hard for me to envision them losing tomorrow, but the last time I felt this was were games again Detroit and Tampa Bay, which the lost, from the last two years so who knows. It'd be a huge upset though.

[erik316wttn]

Every good feeling from Week 1 and from winning the Superbowl from last year goes away if Green Bay finds a way to lose this weekend.

 

cut it out with the theatrics, how on earth does Green Bay lose tomorrow?

 

Cam Newton being a freak of nature who isn't phased by any level of football is the only way. It's hard for me to envision them losing tomorrow, but the last time I felt this was were games again Detroit and Tampa Bay, which the lost, from the last two years so who knows. It'd be a huge upset though.

 

Cam Newton had a good Week 1, but he hasn't been introduced to Mr. Matthews yet.

[Formerly Snayke]

you'll never guess what the bum wrote about this week in the williston herald. something that all north dakotans are passionate about - the 49ers.

 

I call the NFL season my Christmas because I've never celebrated the real one.

 

Huh?

[Formerly Snayke]

Cam Newton had a good Week 1, but he hasn't been introduced to Mr. Matthews yet.

 

Heh. I like your Jon Gruden impersonation.

[NonProfitCow]

I call the NFL season my Christmas because I've never celebrated the real one.

 

Huh?

He celebrates small gift giving for 4 days in July or something. It's weird.

[Formerly Snayke]

I call the NFL season my Christmas because I've never celebrated the real one.

 

Huh?

He celebrates small gift giving for 4 days in July or something. It's weird.

 

That does sound strange.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Every good feeling from Week 1 and from winning the Superbowl from last year goes away if Green Bay finds a way to lose this weekend.

 

See now I'd like them to lose just to hear what happens. I'm not sure I'd like to hear what happens to the poor sap who might call the Packers overrated for it, but because of that it's worth a shot.

[erik316wttn]

Nah, we'll win and head into Bears Week 2-0.

 

And then we'll be 3-0!

[Magnetic Curses]

Nah, we'll win and head into Bears Week 2-0.

 

And then we'll be 3-0!

 

not with that defense they won't be.

[Soul]

Every good feeling from Week 1 and from winning the Superbowl from last year goes away if Green Bay finds a way to lose this weekend.

 

cut it out with the theatrics, how on earth does Green Bay lose tomorrow?

 

Cam Newton being a freak of nature who isn't phased by any level of football is the only way. It's hard for me to envision them losing tomorrow, but the last time I felt this was were games again Detroit and Tampa Bay, which the lost, from the last two years so who knows. It'd be a huge upset though.

 

Cam Newton had a good Week 1, but he hasn't been introduced to Mr. Matthews yet.

 

Yes, I'm also thinking that Cam Newton's actual NFL introduction is today.

 

Packers by a whole bunch.

[JonJayCutler]

Nah, we'll win and head into Bears Week 2-0.

 

And then we'll be 3-0!

 

If you weren't such a prime source of entertainment around here (laughing at you, not with you), I'd put you on my foe list.