Minor League Discussion & Boxes 9-2-10

[Outshined_One]

Box Scores

 

Iowa lost 13-3 Box Score

 

CF S. Fuld 1/4, BB, K

3B M. Smith 1/4, RBI

RF B. Snyder 1/4, R, RBI, HR (24), K

LF J. Dubois 1/4, R, 3B (1)

1B B. LaHair 0/4, K

2B B. Scales 1/2, 2 BB, R, K

C R. Chirinos 1/3, 2B (2), HBP

SS M. Camp 1/3, HBP

PH T. Wright 0/1, K

SP A. Bibens-Dirkx 5 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 1/3 K/BB, 2 HR, 8-6 GO-FO

RP D. Cales 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2/1 K/BB, 1-0 GO-FO

RP J. Gray 1.1 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 0/1 K/BB, HR, HBP, 4-0 GO-FO

RP L. Sommer .1 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 1-0 GO-FO

 

Tennessee lost 6-2 Box Score

 

CF T. Campana 1/3, BB, R, K, 2 SB (46), Assist (1B)

RF B. Jackson 0/4, 3 K

LF B. Guyer 0/3, BB, R, 2 SB (27)

3B R. Canzler 0/3, BB, 2 K

C S. Clevenger 0/4

2B T. Thomas 1/3, RBI

SS N. Samson 0/3, E (15, fielding)

PH M. Gonzalez 0/1

SP R. Dolis 5.2 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 4/2 K/BB, 2 WP, 7-6 GO-FO

RP K. Smit .1 scoreless, 1 H, 1/0 K/BB

RP M. Carrillo .2 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 0/2 K/BB, 0-2 GO-FO

RP J. Leverton 1.1 scoreless, 1 H, 0/1 K/BB

 

Daytona won 5-4 Box Score

 

SS J. Lake 1/4, BB, R, K

2B DJ LeMahieu 3/5, R, 2 RBI, HR (2), SB (15)

3B R. Flaherty 1/4, BB, R, K

C M. Brenly 1/5, 2 K

RF K. Burke 2/5, R, 2 K, SB (6)

DH R. Ridling 1/5, R, 3 RBI, HR (13), K

1B J. Opitz 0/4, BB, K

LF G. Rohan 1/4

CF J. Valdez 3/4, SB (15), CS (6)

SP N. Struck 5.1 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 5/0 K/BB, HR, HBP, 5-6 GO-FO

RP O. Martinez 1.1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1/0 K/BB, HR, 2-1 GO-FO

RP C. Siegfried .1 scoreless, 1 H, 1-0 GO-FO

RP M. Perconte 1.2 scoreless, 2 H, 3/0 K/BB, WP, 0-2 GO-FO

RP J. Beliveau .1 perfect, 1-0 GO-FO

 

Peoria lost 5-3 Box Score (Completed Early: Rain)

 

SS HJ Lee 0/3

2B L. Watkins 1/3, R, RBI, HR (1), K

LF DJ Fitzgerald 1/3, K

1B J. Bour 0/3, 2 K

RF JH Ha 1/2, BB, R, 2B (13)

SP M. Hatley 2 scoreless, 3 H, 3/0 K/BB, WP, 3-0 GO-FO

RP A. Kirk 3 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 6/4 K/BB, WP, Balk, HBP, 2-1 GO-FO

RP Y. Gonzalez 1.2 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1/1 K/BB, HR, 4-0 GO-FO

 

Boise won 1-0 Box Score

 

SS A. Alcantara 3/4, RBI, K, CS (3)

2B PC Chen 2/3, CS (1)

DH P. LePage 0/3

1B R. Jones 1/3

C M. Gibbs 0/3, 2 K

LF C. Shields 1/3, K, CS (1), PO (1B)

RF J. Morelli 1/3, K

3B D. Harrington 0/3, K

CF KM Na 1/3, R

SP B. Ebinger 5 scoreless, 2 H, 8/0 K/BB, 6-1 GO-FO

RP D. Beeler 2 scoreless, 2 H, 2/0 K/BB, 4-0 GO-FO

RP J. Latham 1 scoreless, 1 H, 1/0 K/BB, 2-0 GO-FO

RP A. Kurcz 1 scoreless, 0 H, 2/1 K/BB, HBP, 0-1 GO-FO

 

OVERALL: 2-3

[Guest]

Probable Starters

 

Iowa: RHP Austin Bibens-Dirkx (5-3, 4.15 ERA, 47.2 IP, 33 K, 18 BB; overall: 10-6, 3.59 ERA, 133 IP, 101 K, 45 BB)

Tennessee: RHP Rafael Dolis (5-3, 3.81 ERA, 49.2 IP, 41 K, 25 BB; overall: 9-8, 3.28 ERA, 120.2 IP, 89 K, 55 BB)

Daytona: RHP Nick Struck (0-2, 5.19 ERA, 8.2 IP, 7 K, 6 BB; overall: 8-10, 3.36 ERA, 123.1 IP, 91 K, 46 BB)

Peoria: RHP Marcus Hatley (0-0, 3.96 ERA, 11.1 IP, 10 K, 7 BB; overall: 0-0, 3.00 ERA, 18 IP, 17 K, 9 BB) & LHP Austin Kirk (1-1, 2.79 ERA, 9.2 IP, 11 K, 5 BB; overall: 5-6, 3.23 ERA, 61.1 IP, 59 K, 17 BB)

Boise: LHP Brent Ebinger (2-2, 4.05 ERA, 40 IP, 40 K, 5 BB; overall: 2-2, 3.45 ERA, 47 IP, 49 K, 6 BB)

[toonsterwu]

Ebinger's put together a nice stretch in the NWL. Granted, NWL ... but still 40 K's in 40 ip, and only 5 bb ... it's a positive, at the very least.

[TruffleShuffle]

0-4, 3 K's for brett jackson. yuck.

 

jose ceda pitched against tennessee today; his line for the season is 39.1 ip, 24 h, 9 er, 20 bb, 48 k, 4 hr.

[Guest]

It's a strange day when:

 

- Ha walks

- Lake walks

- LeMahieu hits a home run

- Watkins hits a home run

[Outshined_One]

Brent Ebinger is also good.

[toonsterwu]

Damn nice start for Ebinger. Seems like the changeup is much better than the pre-draft reports had suggested. Anyone know if the FB numbers for him still high 80's touching low 90's?

[Guest]

0-4, 3 K's for brett jackson. yuck.

 

jose ceda pitched against tennessee today; his line for the season is 39.1 ip, 24 h, 9 er, 20 bb, 48 k, 4 hr.

 

Did you know that Jose Ceda shot a close friend ("accidentally") in the Dominican the offseason he got traded?

[Outshined_One]

Damn nice start for Ebinger. Seems like the changeup is much better than the pre-draft reports had suggested. Anyone know if the FB numbers for him still high 80's touching low 90's?

 

I'm waiting to hear reports on him and Greathouse. If they're comparable to guys like Rusin and Mathes, whatever. But, if they're more along the lines of Sean Marshall, they suddenly become much more intriguing.

[Guest]

Rusin is a whole lot closer to Marshall than he is to Mathes.

[Outshined_One]

Rusin is a whole lot closer to Marshall than he is to Mathes.

 

Didn't do a good job of making a point there. Meant it more along the lines of organizational filler (Mathes) and back end of the rotation/middle relief (Rusin) as compared to Marshall.

[scarey]

Rusin is a whole lot closer to Marshall than he is to Mathes.

 

Didn't do a good job of making a point there. Meant it more along the lines of organizational filler (Mathes) and back end of the rotation/middle relief (Rusin) as compared to Marshall.

 

Wait... hasn't Marshall always been back end of the rotation/middle relief? :lol:

[toonsterwu]

Rusin is a whole lot closer to Marshall than he is to Mathes.

 

Didn't do a good job of making a point there. Meant it more along the lines of organizational filler (Mathes) and back end of the rotation/middle relief (Rusin) as compared to Marshall.

 

Wait... hasn't Marshall always been back end of the rotation/middle relief? :lol:

 

As a prospect coming up (and I was a huge fan of his, I preferred his arsenal depth over Rich Hill), yes, he was always more of a back end of the rotation/middle relief guy. Had he had the type of velocity he's been showing this year, it would've been a different story. Marshall coming up, stuff-wise, was somewhat Rusin-ish.

 

From what I've gathered on Ebinger, I think, for "classification" purposes, he would be closer to Marshall and Rusin coming up (decent FB, solid change, decent slider and curve) than the Marshall that's in the bigs right now.

[jersey cubs fan]

Holy cliff dive, Jackson.

[soapy]

At least Hendry, et al. won't be anxious to rush him into the OF next year? :?

[ScrubMD]

Interesting tidbit from Boise:

 

Boise Hawks pitcher, Aaron Kurcz has decided to start pitching underhand until he is promoted. When asked for comment, Kurcz responded, "I'm just getting bored with these little babies in this league. I'm literally striking out almost everyone and it's just getting old."

 

Also, someone needs to tell Lake he's allowed to get more than one hit in a game. He's had exactly one hit in almost every game for the past couple weeks.

 

And Brett has definitely been slumping, but he was hitting like this right before he went completely out of his mind at the end of his stay in Daytona/first few games in Tennessee. I'm not worried about him yet.

[Outshined_One]

As a prospect coming up (and I was a huge fan of his, I preferred his arsenal depth over Rich Hill), yes, he was always more of a back end of the rotation/middle relief guy. Had he had the type of velocity he's been showing this year, it would've been a different story. Marshall coming up, stuff-wise, was somewhat Rusin-ish.

 

See, I'd disagree on that assessment of Marshall. BA's Cubs Top 10 for 2005:

 

Marshall picks up plenty of groundballs and strikeouts thanks to an 88-92 mph sinker that can reach 95. He keeps batters off balance with his curveball, a sharp downer he can change speeds with. He commands both pitches well.

 

It's also worth remembering that, while Hill had the best curveball in the organization by far (at the time), Marshall's was still held in high regard. Marshall was a substantially better prospect than Rusin is, imo, and had the kind of arsenal that profiled as a potential quality #3 or setup man. I don't get that vibe from Rusin.

[TruffleShuffle]

yeah i think marshall was a significantly better prospect than rusin.

[toonsterwu]

I know the reports on Sean from back then. I'm just not sure it's as big a difference as you guys are making it out to be. If I had to line them up next to each other, sure, I'd have Sean, at a similar point, as ahead. But at similar points, both threw high 80's 2-seamers that worked well and had good sink. Sean had a much better 4-seam, no doubt about it. There have been very positive reports on Rusin's breaking ball this year.

 

I always thought of Sean, as a SP coming up, as a possible mid-end of the rotation arm, who, in a good year, could look like a solid mid-rotation guy, and I think the same way about Chris. My realistic hope about Sean coming up was that I hoped he could be an end of the rotation guy, and I think that's my realistic hope on Chris. Obviously hoping for better. I'm not completely sold that we should start thinking that Sean is a solid setup arm. Another year of dominating against righties and I might change my mind.

 

Only time will tell.

[TruffleShuffle]

marshall had stronger K/9 IP and H/9 IP rates in the minors and he was coming out of a smaller baseball conference as a junior, not a senior.

[toonsterwu]

fair enough, but right now, if you took the top two pitches of both guys at the same point in time, I don't think they grade out that differently. We're talking a good high 80's 2-seamer for Rusin and a good, borderline plus curveball right now, which is basically the same combination that Marshall had. I'm not denying that I would put Marshall ahead, I just don't think the difference is all that much.

[Guest]

I think Marshall's curve would have graded ahead of Rusin's right now but both of them project(ed) as a 3-4 starter if they hit their ceiling.