Red Sox acquire Jeremy Hermida

[Backtobanks]

I get a kick out of the fact that this is a great move by Epstein and the RS, but so many posters thought Hendry would be an idiot for getting Hermida.

 

or those are 2 different groups of posters

 

or nobody said he'd be an idiot for getting hermida at all

 

Plenty of people have been saying that Hermida is not that good. He's a decent insurance policy but he shouldn't be counted on as a savior.

 

and just as many people (probably more) have wanted hermida on this board for a while.

 

the point is that people aren't just praising this move because theo epstein did it.

 

I'm not sure I totally agree with you on this comment. There have been dozens of pages criticizing Hendry on every move he makes (or doesn't make) and praising the genius of Epstein and Beane.

 

I dont care what anyone says, Hermida would have been a cheap option for us, considering whats out there. Maybe Jaramillo could have helped Hermida, and if not, we wouldnt have given up too much that it would matter.

 

I agree with you. Hermida is young, cheap, and has had some success at the ML level. As I posted earlier, it would have been interesting to see if Jaramillo could have helped him.

[Derwood]

great, now the Cubs can go sign Bay

[Backtobanks]

great, now the Cubs can go sign Bay

 

Sounds good to me. Unfortunately, I don't think the Cubs will be signing any more free agents to high price/long term contracts for a long time.

[17 Seconds]

I get a kick out of the fact that this is a great move by Epstein and the RS, but so many posters thought Hendry would be an idiot for getting Hermida.

 

or those are 2 different groups of posters

 

or nobody said he'd be an idiot for getting hermida at all

 

Plenty of people have been saying that Hermida is not that good. He's a decent insurance policy but he shouldn't be counted on as a savior.

 

and just as many people (probably more) have wanted hermida on this board for a while.

 

the point is that people aren't just praising this move because theo epstein did it.

 

I'm not sure I totally agree with you on this comment. There have been dozens of pages criticizing Hendry on every move he makes (or doesn't make) and praising the genius of Epstein and Beane.

 

and you don't think that's because those people tend to like the decisions epstein makes and dislike the ones hendry makes?

 

people compliment epstein on making good moves a lot because he makes good moves a lot.

 

people critcize hendry for making poor moves a lot because he makes poor moves a lot.

[biittner77]

Hermida looked a lot better going into this season then he does now. I would not have minded taking a low risk flier on Hermida but is he really that much better of an insurance policy then Hoffpauir? Hermida is younger, and has a bigger upside but he has yet to show that he's that much better. At least he wasn't the last 2 seasons.

[jersey cubs fan]

Hermida looked a lot better going into this season then he does now. I would not have minded taking a low risk flier on Hermida but is he really that much better of an insurance policy then Hoffpauir? Hermida is younger, and has a bigger upside but he has yet to show that he's that much better. At least he wasn't the last 2 seasons.

 

You dismiss the age difference way too quickly. He's 4 years younger. Hoff has already seen his prime, Hermida is just entering it. When Micah was Hermida's age, he was going through his first abysmal season of AAA. It's a pretty big difference.

[biittner77]

Hermida looked a lot better going into this season then he does now. I would not have minded taking a low risk flier on Hermida but is he really that much better of an insurance policy then Hoffpauir? Hermida is younger, and has a bigger upside but he has yet to show that he's that much better. At least he wasn't the last 2 seasons.

 

You dismiss the age difference way too quickly. He's 4 years younger. Hoff has already seen his prime, Hermida is just entering it. When Micah was Hermida's age, he was going through his first abysmal season of AAA. It's a pretty big difference.

 

Fair enough. So replace Hoffpauir with Snyder. The point is that unless he has a breakout year, Hermida is not that much better than other in house insurance policies. I think you'd agree that the Cubs need more than insurance, they need a starter they can count on.

[Guest]

Hermida looked a lot better going into this season then he does now. I would not have minded taking a low risk flier on Hermida but is he really that much better of an insurance policy then Hoffpauir? Hermida is younger, and has a bigger upside but he has yet to show that he's that much better. At least he wasn't the last 2 seasons.

 

You dismiss the age difference way too quickly. He's 4 years younger. Hoff has already seen his prime, Hermida is just entering it. When Micah was Hermida's age, he was going through his first abysmal season of AAA. It's a pretty big difference.

 

Fair enough. So replace Hoffpauir with Snyder. The point is that unless he has a breakout year, Hermida is not that much better than other in house insurance policies. I think you'd agree that the Cubs need more than insurance, they need a starter they can count on.

Have you bothered to look at his home and away splits? Usually I don't, but his home field is one of those outliers that actually make splits something meaningful to look at.

 

At home he's nothing to write home about. Away from home and he's pretty damn good for a guy under 25.

 

Home: .253/.328/.393/.721

Away: .276/.359/.456/.815

 

He's an unpolished gemstone.

[jersey cubs fan]

Hermida looked a lot better going into this season then he does now. I would not have minded taking a low risk flier on Hermida but is he really that much better of an insurance policy then Hoffpauir? Hermida is younger, and has a bigger upside but he has yet to show that he's that much better. At least he wasn't the last 2 seasons.

 

You dismiss the age difference way too quickly. He's 4 years younger. Hoff has already seen his prime, Hermida is just entering it. When Micah was Hermida's age, he was going through his first abysmal season of AAA. It's a pretty big difference.

 

Fair enough. So replace Hoffpauir with Snyder. The point is that unless he has a breakout year, Hermida is not that much better than other in house insurance policies. I think you'd agree that the Cubs need more than insurance, they need a starter they can count on.

Have you bothered to look at his home and away splits? Usually I don't, but his home field is one of those outliers that actually make splits something meaningful to look at.

 

At home he's nothing to write home about. Away from home and he's pretty damn good for a guy under 25.

 

Home: .253/.328/.393/.721

Away: .276/.359/.456/.815

 

He's an unpolished gemstone.

 

I agree, but those away numbers have declined since his "breakout" season.

 

I'm not advocating the Cubs getting him as their number 1 target, I'm just saying his circumstances are much different than Micah.

[Backtobanks]

the point is that people aren't just praising this move because theo epstein did it.

 

I'm not sure I totally agree with you on this comment. There have been dozens of pages criticizing Hendry on every move he makes (or doesn't make) and praising the genius of Epstein and Beane.

 

and you don't think that's because those people tend to like the decisions epstein makes and dislike the ones hendry makes?

 

people compliment epstein on making good moves a lot because he makes good moves a lot.

 

people critcize hendry for making poor moves a lot because he makes poor moves a lot.

I understand complimenting Epstein and criticizing Hendry depending on the move, but you've been here long enough to know that Hendry will get criticized by some posters no matter what moves he makes or doesn't make. There are a lot of posters who have "the grass is always greener on the other side" syndrome. Look at the criticism he got for the Bradley/Wells deal that apparently was never even discussed between the teams.

[jersey cubs fan]

I understand complimenting Epstein and criticizing Hendry depending on the move, but you've been here long enough to know that Hendry will get criticized by some posters no matter what moves he makes or doesn't make. There are a lot of posters who have "the grass is always greener on the other side" syndrome. Look at the criticism he got for the Bradley/Wells deal that apparently was never even discussed between the teams.

 

You are confusing people criticizing him no matter what he does, and every deal having a critic. He's going to take heat on every move he makes because people have a wide variety of opinions, and therefore there is always going to be somebody who dislikes a move.

[biittner77]

Have you bothered to look at his home and away splits? Usually I don't, but his home field is one of those outliers that actually make splits something meaningful to look at.

 

At home he's nothing to write home about. Away from home and he's pretty damn good for a guy under 25.

 

Home: .253/.328/.393/.721

Away: .276/.359/.456/.815

 

He's an unpolished gemstone.

 

I looked at his LD% and his BABIP and didn't particularly like what I saw. His 4-1 K-BB ratio is a little conerning too. I agree he would have been worth a shot but how long are you willing to stick with Hermida if he doesn't break out? I think (hope) Hendry has his sights set a little higher. Though I'm prepared to be disappointed by Hendry's idea of a better corner OF.

[sneakypower]

i like Hermida a little, but i get an ulcer when i see people stupidly continue to pore over home-road splits like they mean anything

 

they were dead wrong about holliday and they were dead wrong about khalil greene, the two most glaring examples of h-r discrepancy

[Mugged By Fluffy]

Have you bothered to look at his home and away splits? Usually I don't, but his home field is one of those outliers that actually make splits something meaningful to look at.

 

At home he's nothing to write home about. Away from home and he's pretty damn good for a guy under 25.

 

Home: .253/.328/.393/.721

Away: .276/.359/.456/.815

 

He's an unpolished gemstone.

 

I looked at his LD% and his BABIP and didn't particularly like what I saw. His 4-1 K-BB ratio is a little conerning too. I agree he would have been worth a shot but how long are you willing to stick with Hermida if he doesn't break out? I think (hope) Hendry has his sights set a little higher. Though I'm prepared to be disappointed by Hendry's idea of a better corner OF.

 

When Hendry sets his sights higher we end up with Soriano and Bradley. For what little it took for the BoSox to get Hermida it would have been worth the risk even though he is up for arbitration. Say you end up paying him $6 mil. It's still less than what Hendry's version of a veteran free agent "savior" might cost. If Hermida tanks, you've lost two average prospects. If Jaramillo can figure him out and takes him to the next level, you've got a young left handed bat in the OF(and Bradley replacement) that you can sign longterm.

[17 Seconds]

i like Hermida a little, but i get an ulcer when i see people stupidly continue to pore over home-road splits like they mean anything

 

they were dead wrong about holliday and they were dead wrong about khalil greene, the two most glaring examples of h-r discrepancy

 

holliday from 06-08: .329/.400/.579

holliday in 09: .313/.394/.515

 

that's a pretty big discrepancy. he was always good and i dont think anybody ever argued that. he just wasn't quite as good as his numbers suggestes while he played in colorado.

 

and using greene is kind of pointless when you consider he just flat out turned to crap the last 2 seasons. when he was in san diego. he had a 102 OPS+ from 02-06. if he had played in a normal park when he was actually good, his numbers would have looked really nice.

 

those are 2 players who played in very extreme ballparks though. i don't really see the point of using them with hermida. land shark stadium is kind of right in the middle in terms of park factors.

 

actually, it has land shark as being a hitter's park in 2 of the last 3 seasons... including 4th overall last season.