8/7 Cubs (Big Z) @ Rockies (Jimenez) 8:10 PM; CSN; WGN Radio

[Schwarber Fan]

Just homer, Aram

[Fred Hornkohl]

D Lee grounded into a FC, Bradley safe at second on fielding error, E4

[Roast]

 

That's no guarentee of success.

It's usually a pretty good indicator of it though. Barring a ton of injuries.

Here's the top 3 payrolls from last year and where they finished in their division.

 

Yankees - 3rd place

Tigers - LAST PLACE

Mets - 2nd place

And the Yankees and Tigers had a ton of injuries.

 

Regardless, the point is money is not always a great indicator of how well you'll do. In recent times, yes, the cubs have had a very high payroll. But they've won back to back division titles - last year winning 97 freaking games. So what's your problem? Hendry has been given a ton of money and had lots of recent success. Could he have spent it better? Always. But this bottom-5 crap is ridiculous.

[Sammy Sofa]

 

That's no guarentee of success.

It's usually a pretty good indicator of it though. Barring a ton of injuries.

Here's the top 3 payrolls from last year and where they finished in their division.

 

Yankees - 3rd place

Tigers - LAST PLACE

Mets - 2nd place

And the Yankees and Tigers had a ton of injuries.

 

And the Cubs haven't this year?

[illiniguy]

Our payroll the past few years has dwarfed our competition, the NL Central.

 

And again, the season is not play only or mostly against the thrifty teams in the NL Central or thrifty teams in general. Just beacause a team spends 110 million doesn't make them a lock to beat up on teams spending in, say, the 70-90 million range.

Ok agree to disagree. But, still I don't want to keep hendry around because I'm fearful the next guy could be worse. The next guy could be Theo Epstein.

[erik316wttn]

Haha. Milt just hurt himself again.

 

This is going to be a long, long weekend.

 

We'll be lucky to leave with a split.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Ramirez            AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
RISP               42    9   16    3    0    2   23    6    6  0.381  0.469  0.595  1.065  0.412  4.04  0.088  0.313
Middle (4-6)       54    9   16    4    0    2   11    6    8  0.296  0.377  0.481  0.859  0.318  4.05  0.081  0.300
0 outs             49    8   19    4    0    2    5    5    5  0.388  0.455  0.592  1.046  0.405  4.05  0.067  0.273
CUBS trailing      47    7   16    1    0    2    7    3    6  0.340  0.392  0.489  0.882  0.359  3.73  0.052  0.250
last 14 games      49   12   20    7    0    4   15    8   10  0.408  0.500  0.796  1.296  0.457  3.41  0.092  0.297
August             16    2    3    2    0    0    3    2    5  0.188  0.316  0.313  0.628  0.273  3.53  0.128  0.300
Road               79   12   22    5    0    4   14    9   11  0.278  0.367  0.494  0.860  0.281  4.00  0.088  0.196
Nite              105   16   31    5    0    5   18    8   17  0.295  0.362  0.486  0.848  0.313  3.97  0.067  0.197
vs Right          133   18   41    8    0    7   26    8   19  0.308  0.361  0.526  0.887  0.318  3.74  0.053  0.250
vs Jimemez          0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00  0.000  0.000
vs. Colo            0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00  0.000  0.000

season totals     157   25   52   10    0    9   33   15   22  0.331  0.400  0.567  0.967  0.341  3.75  0.069  0.247

[Soul]

How many teams do we play every year that spend as much as us? 2 maybe 3?

 

White Sox, Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, and Astros are all pretty close this year. Trade deadline moves kind mucked salaries up, so it's hard to tell based on info that's out there.

how the heck are the Astros spending that much?

CLee, Tejada, Roy, Lance.

 

The guys everyone thought would be on the block last year, but the Stros stuck with 'em.

[illiniguy]

 

That's no guarentee of success.

It's usually a pretty good indicator of it though. Barring a ton of injuries.

Here's the top 3 payrolls from last year and where they finished in their division.

 

Yankees - 3rd place

Tigers - LAST PLACE

Mets - 2nd place

And the Yankees and Tigers had a ton of injuries.

 

And the Cubs haven't this year?

They have. And I think Lou's done a really good job keeping them afloat, but maybe that's more how bad the rest of the division was.

[Outshined_One]

Puke

[Sammy Sofa]

Ok agree to disagree. But, still I don't want to keep hendry around because I'm fearful the next guy could be worse. The next guy could be Theo Epstein.

 

I've expressly said that I don't want to keep Hendry only for that reason either. I just hope nobody is really thinking getting a Theo Epstein-type as GM is really all that likely. I would love it if that happened...sadly it seems like the thing that happens all too rarely across baseball.

Edited August 8, 2009 by Sammy Sofa

[bcl412]

I'm really sick of this leaving men on base crap.

[Fred Hornkohl]

A Ramirez struck out swinging

[E.J.]

Pretty obvious we aren't going to score here.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Soto               AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
RISP               60    4   13    1    0    1   19   16   15  0.217  0.367  0.283  0.650  0.273  4.32  0.150  0.189
Middle (4-6)       72    6   15    4    1    2   10   15   18  0.208  0.337  0.375  0.712  0.250  4.13  0.129  0.167
1 out              70    7   17    4    0    3   13   10   15  0.243  0.325  0.429  0.754  0.269  3.82  0.082  0.204
CUBS trailing      93    8   21    6    0    3    4   12   26  0.226  0.314  0.387  0.701  0.281  4.10  0.088  0.022
last 14 games       0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00  0.000  0.000
August              0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00  0.000  0.000
Road              110    9   24    4    1    4    9   12   30  0.218  0.298  0.382  0.680  0.263  4.15  0.080  0.082
Nite              110   10   32    4    1    5   13   15   27  0.291  0.378  0.482  0.860  0.346  3.93  0.087  0.131
vs Right          171   14   41   10    1    5   20   21   40  0.240  0.321  0.398  0.719  0.286  3.95  0.082  0.160
vs Jimemez          0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00  0.000  0.000
vs. Colo            4    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  5.00  0.000  0.000

season totals     217   19   50   10    1    8   27   34   49  0.230  0.336  0.396  0.732  0.263  4.01  0.106  0.151

[Roast]

Yeah this inning is going to suck.

[bcl412]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[E.J.]

Geo needs to go back on a rehab assignment.

[CHCinIC]

Geo looks bad

 

And sori is our last chance

[erik316wttn]

Ok agree to disagree. But, still I don't want to keep hendry around because I'm fearful the next guy could be worse. The next guy could be Theo Epstein.

 

I've expressly said that I don't want to keep Hendry only for that reason either. I just hope nobody is really thinking getting a Theo Epstein-type as GM is really all that likely.

 

Probably not, but there's a better-than-average chance we get someone better than Hendry.

[illiniguy]

Why can't we score on the road?

[Soul]

They have. And I think Lou's done a really good job keeping them afloat, but maybe that's more how bad the rest of the division was.

 

I don't believe that. I've seen Cub teams tank, and when that happens they just lose. Almost regardless of competition. I know the division isn't that strong, but I still think the Cubs have done a good job not letting themselves just sink under the weight of the challenges they've faced this season.

[Butterscup1679666578]

expectedly bad first game back from geo

[Fred Hornkohl]

Soto struck out swinging

[Sammy Sofa]

I admire Len's game face.