Prospects

[BigbadB]

Is there a draft queue or a place we can place players to more easily compare/evaluate who is more draftable?

[tadowdaddy]

I think the minor league portion should be reversed from the major league portion, and run it immediately following the major league draft. Reversed meaning that if you had the first pick (prior to any trades of draft picks) in the major league portion, you get the 16th pick in the minor league.

 

The issues that I can see from a minor league draft, is that many teams already have full rosters. Some may want 8 minor leaguers while some may not want any.

 

Therefore, my idea would be that you do 12 rounds of major league draft and 2 or 3 rounds of minor league draft. After that, any minor leaguers can just be picked up through the normal waiver process.

 

Realistically, how many talented prospects worthy of a spot on a roster will be available at draft time? 4 rounds would be 48, which is damn near 33% of the maximum of minor league roster spots.

 

I disagree on the draft order but agree on the number of rounds. Using waivers isn't much different from a draft anyway. We'll go three rounds. You can always pass.

 

What is the reason to wait until after the major league draft?

 

I'd say that it just makes things less confusing to have one draft going on at a time..

[Guest]

Is there a draft queue or a place we can place players to more easily compare/evaluate who is more draftable?

go to the draft room.

[BigbadB]

I think the minor league portion should be reversed from the major league portion, and run it immediately following the major league draft. Reversed meaning that if you had the first pick (prior to any trades of draft picks) in the major league portion, you get the 16th pick in the minor league.

 

The issues that I can see from a minor league draft, is that many teams already have full rosters. Some may want 8 minor leaguers while some may not want any.

 

Therefore, my idea would be that you do 12 rounds of major league draft and 2 or 3 rounds of minor league draft. After that, any minor leaguers can just be picked up through the normal waiver process.

 

Realistically, how many talented prospects worthy of a spot on a roster will be available at draft time? 4 rounds would be 48, which is damn near 33% of the maximum of minor league roster spots.

 

I disagree on the draft order but agree on the number of rounds. Using waivers isn't much different from a draft anyway. We'll go three rounds. You can always pass.

 

What is the reason to wait until after the major league draft?

 

Maybe others wouldn't agree, but I view getting the best Free Agent and the best minor leaguer added to the database will only fuel the dumping of teams that are out of contention late in the season. By reversing the waiver order, you aren't giving the worst team in the league that extra incentive to dump the team.

[BigbadB]

Is there a draft queue or a place we can place players to more easily compare/evaluate who is more draftable?

go to the draft room.

 

Oh, we didn't have a draft room this morning. I'm just trying to get caught up on all the posts in here, let alone visit Roadkill. #-o

[Guest]

I think the minor league portion should be reversed from the major league portion, and run it immediately following the major league draft. Reversed meaning that if you had the first pick (prior to any trades of draft picks) in the major league portion, you get the 16th pick in the minor league.

 

The issues that I can see from a minor league draft, is that many teams already have full rosters. Some may want 8 minor leaguers while some may not want any.

 

Therefore, my idea would be that you do 12 rounds of major league draft and 2 or 3 rounds of minor league draft. After that, any minor leaguers can just be picked up through the normal waiver process.

 

Realistically, how many talented prospects worthy of a spot on a roster will be available at draft time? 4 rounds would be 48, which is damn near 33% of the maximum of minor league roster spots.

 

I disagree on the draft order but agree on the number of rounds. Using waivers isn't much different from a draft anyway. We'll go three rounds. You can always pass.

 

What is the reason to wait until after the major league draft?

 

Maybe others wouldn't agree, but I view getting the best Free Agent and the best minor leaguer added to the database will only fuel the dumping of teams that are out of contention late in the season. By reversing the waiver order, you aren't giving the worst team in the league that extra incentive to dump the team.

 

 

this concerns me too but I think there are other ways to remedy the situation - one is to use standings at the trade deadline for the draft order. Another would be to correlate keeper points to wins . . . this may further imbalance the league though. In the new league, I plan to correlate budget to wins.

[Guest]

Is there a draft queue or a place we can place players to more easily compare/evaluate who is more draftable?

go to the draft room.

 

Oh, we didn't have a draft room this morning. I'm just trying to get caught up on all the posts in here, let alone visit Roadkill. #-o

 

 

the draft room has been operable for at least a week - let me know if you can't get in.

[shnsajax]

I think the minor league portion should be reversed from the major league portion, and run it immediately following the major league draft. Reversed meaning that if you had the first pick (prior to any trades of draft picks) in the major league portion, you get the 16th pick in the minor league.

 

The issues that I can see from a minor league draft, is that many teams already have full rosters. Some may want 8 minor leaguers while some may not want any.

 

Therefore, my idea would be that you do 12 rounds of major league draft and 2 or 3 rounds of minor league draft. After that, any minor leaguers can just be picked up through the normal waiver process.

 

Realistically, how many talented prospects worthy of a spot on a roster will be available at draft time? 4 rounds would be 48, which is damn near 33% of the maximum of minor league roster spots.

 

I disagree on the draft order but agree on the number of rounds. Using waivers isn't much different from a draft anyway. We'll go three rounds. You can always pass.

 

What is the reason to wait until after the major league draft?

 

Maybe others wouldn't agree, but I view getting the best Free Agent and the best minor leaguer added to the database will only fuel the dumping of teams that are out of contention late in the season. By reversing the waiver order, you aren't giving the worst team in the league that extra incentive to dump the team.

 

 

this concerns me too but I think there are other ways to remedy the situation - one is to use standings at the trade deadline for the draft order. Another would be to correlate keeper points to wins . . . this may further imbalance the league though. In the new league, I plan to correlate budget to wins.

 

Maybe we could council Meph to create a BCS like program to determine the draft order.

[BigbadB]

I think the minor league portion should be reversed from the major league portion, and run it immediately following the major league draft. Reversed meaning that if you had the first pick (prior to any trades of draft picks) in the major league portion, you get the 16th pick in the minor league.

 

The issues that I can see from a minor league draft, is that many teams already have full rosters. Some may want 8 minor leaguers while some may not want any.

 

Therefore, my idea would be that you do 12 rounds of major league draft and 2 or 3 rounds of minor league draft. After that, any minor leaguers can just be picked up through the normal waiver process.

 

Realistically, how many talented prospects worthy of a spot on a roster will be available at draft time? 4 rounds would be 48, which is damn near 33% of the maximum of minor league roster spots.

 

I disagree on the draft order but agree on the number of rounds. Using waivers isn't much different from a draft anyway. We'll go three rounds. You can always pass.

 

What is the reason to wait until after the major league draft?

 

Maybe others wouldn't agree, but I view getting the best Free Agent and the best minor leaguer added to the database will only fuel the dumping of teams that are out of contention late in the season. By reversing the waiver order, you aren't giving the worst team in the league that extra incentive to dump the team.

 

 

this concerns me too but I think there are other ways to remedy the situation - one is to use standings at the trade deadline for the draft order. Another would be to correlate keeper points to wins . . . this may further imbalance the league though. In the new league, I plan to correlate budget to wins.

 

I might like the idea of creating the draft order at the trade deadline. Let me think about that one.

[Guest]

I think the minor league portion should be reversed from the major league portion, and run it immediately following the major league draft. Reversed meaning that if you had the first pick (prior to any trades of draft picks) in the major league portion, you get the 16th pick in the minor league.

 

The issues that I can see from a minor league draft, is that many teams already have full rosters. Some may want 8 minor leaguers while some may not want any.

 

Therefore, my idea would be that you do 12 rounds of major league draft and 2 or 3 rounds of minor league draft. After that, any minor leaguers can just be picked up through the normal waiver process.

 

Realistically, how many talented prospects worthy of a spot on a roster will be available at draft time? 4 rounds would be 48, which is damn near 33% of the maximum of minor league roster spots.

 

I disagree on the draft order but agree on the number of rounds. Using waivers isn't much different from a draft anyway. We'll go three rounds. You can always pass.

 

What is the reason to wait until after the major league draft?

 

Maybe others wouldn't agree, but I view getting the best Free Agent and the best minor leaguer added to the database will only fuel the dumping of teams that are out of contention late in the season. By reversing the waiver order, you aren't giving the worst team in the league that extra incentive to dump the team.

 

 

this concerns me too but I think there are other ways to remedy the situation - one is to use standings at the trade deadline for the draft order. Another would be to correlate keeper points to wins . . . this may further imbalance the league though. In the new league, I plan to correlate budget to wins.

 

Maybe we could council Meph to create a BCS like program to determine the draft order.

 

 

naw, I don't want the marlins to always get the first pick.

[Guest]

I think we should have the prospect draft separately. This just seems like a more fair way to do it. This will definitely be the plan for 2010 - should we do it in 2009?

I like the way it has been, but that's probably pretty predictable since I've probably made heavier use of prospects than anyone else under the current system.

 

I like it too.

[abuck1220]

if tim wants to continue to draft prospects in the first round, that's fine with me.

 

 

I just think it's more fair to allow the people that are trying to rebuild their teams to also have the opportunity to draft minor leaguers, separately from the ML draft.

 

if the goal is to help rebuild the "down" teams, the obvious solution is to either not allow the trading of 1st round picks or limit the amount of points a team can dump after the season.

 

every year a good team unloads all its B/B+ players to a down team for high draft picks. this allows the good team to keep all their A/A- players and pick up more A/A- players with their draft picks. then the down team keeps a bunch of their B/B- players and gets a bunch more B/B- players in the draft because they don't have any high draft picks.

[tadowdaddy]

if tim wants to continue to draft prospects in the first round, that's fine with me.

 

 

I just think it's more fair to allow the people that are trying to rebuild their teams to also have the opportunity to draft minor leaguers, separately from the ML draft.

 

if the goal is to help rebuild the "down" teams, the obvious solution is to either not allow the trading of 1st round picks or limit the amount of points a team can dump after the season.

 

every year a good team unloads all its B/B+ players to a down team for high draft picks. this allows the good team to keep all their A/A- players and pick up more A/A- players with their draft picks. then the down team keeps a bunch of their B/B- players and gets a bunch more B/B- players in the draft because they don't have any high draft picks.

 

I don't totally agree here. For instance, I traded Howard and Kazmir for a first and second round pick. If you don't think that both of them would be gone in the first round of the draft had I released them, then I don't know when they would be picked. They're definitely not B/B+ players.

[Quakers]

Just found out about this.

 

I would have preferred to keep prospects in the draft. It is one of the reasons that I picked up the extra draft picks at the end of last year.

 

It seems to me that two separate drafts will lead to confusion.

 

All that being said, it appears that this is a done deal and this is just a game, so let the seasson begin.

[BigbadB]

All that being said, it appears that this is a done deal and this is just a game, so let the seasson begin.

 

Hold the phone. I've got some monster holes to be filled on my roster first.

[abuck1220]

yeah, i don't like the prospect draft idea.

[Quakers]

I really don't like the idea either, but we need a ruling by the commish ASAP.

 

One problem that I have with holding the draft this early is that I haven't seen to top 50 prospect lists yet. That is what I usually use to decide which , if any, prospects to draft.

[Guest]

the draft rules are clearly stated in the draft rules thread.

[Guest]

I really don't like the idea either, but we need a ruling by the commish ASAP.

 

One problem that I have with holding the draft this early is that I haven't seen to top 50 prospect lists yet. That is what I usually use to decide which , if any, prospects to draft.

 

I appreciate your concerns, but I think this will work better under the current circumstances and appreciate your understanding.

[shnsajax]

I think prospects need to go into a draft somehow either a seperate draft or all together at the beginning of the season. Its better than them randomly appearing where half the people in the league don't know about it, and everything being based on waiver order at the time they are randomly inserted.