2008 Hawaii Winter Baseball

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Four Cubs to Hawaii per ITI:

 

2B Tony Thomas (Daytona)

3B Marquez Smith (Daytona)

LHP Jeremy Papelbon (Iowa; spent the whole regular season with Daytona)

RHP Blake Parker (Daytona)

 

I was hoping Drew Rundle or Cliff Andersen would go. Oh well, good to see the Cubs sending 4 guys this year after only 2 last year. Last year the Cubs sent Nate Samson and Ryan Harvey and when Harvey got hurt, Kyler Burke. In 2006, the Cubs sent Scott Koerber.

 

It would be really cool if Marquez Smith was working on his second base play but I doubt it with Tony Thomas around.

 

HWB starts its season on Sept. 27th.

[Guest]

Official HWB rosters are out for all 4 teams: link.

 

Looks like all 4 Cub prospects will be on the Waikiki Beachboys.

[Wrigley Rat]

Waikiki played their first game of the year. They lost 8-4.

 

Marquez Smith played 3B and went 1-for-3 with 2 RBIs.

Tony Thomas played 2B and went 0-for-5.

Jeremy Papelbon pitched the final two innings of the game giving up 0 runs on 0 hits, 1 walk, and 3 Ks.

Blake Parker did not pitch.

 

http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/statistics/box_score?gid=2008/09/27/honwin-waiwin-1

http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/articles/detail/136

[Guest]

Ahh good call, forgot the HWB started yesterday.

 

Here is the game Wrigley Rat already mentioned:

 

9/27: Waikiki lost 8-4 Box Score (note Andrew Brackman's 23.14 ERA outing)

 

2B T. Thomas 0/5, K

3B M. Smith 1/3, 2 RBI, 2 K

RP J. Papelbon 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K, 2 GO-1 FO

 

9/28: Waikiki lost 7-2 Box Score

 

2B T. Thomas 0/4, K

3B M. Smith 0/4, 2 K

RP B. Parker 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 2 GO-1 FO

 

Overall:

 

Tony Thomas: 0/9, 3 K

Marquez Smith 1/7, 4 K

Jeremy Papelbon: 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K, 2 GO-1 FO

Blake Parker: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 2 GO-1 FO

[Guest]

9/29: Wakiki lost again, 12-3 Box Score

 

3B M. Smith 1/4, 2B (1)

2B T. Thomas 0/4, K - will he ever get a hit in Hawaii?

RP J. Papelbon 1 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 0 GO-1 FO

 

Overall:

 

Tony Thomas: 0/13, 4 K

Marquez Smith 2/11, 1 2B, 4 K

Jeremy Papelbon: 3 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 5 K, 2 GO-2 FO

Blake Parker: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 2 GO-1 FO

[nick23]

What's that funny looking thing beside the ER on Papelbon's stat line?

[Guest]

What's that funny looking thing beside the ER on Papelbon's stat line?

 

First time he's given up ERs since July, no?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I'm going to sign up for this league one of these years

[Guest]

Waikiki loses again 9-6, Box Score:

 

3B M. Smith 2/4, R, HR (1), RBI

RP B. Parker 1.2 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 3 GO-1 FO

 

Tony Thomas: 0/13, 4 K

Marquez Smith 4/15, 1 2B, 1 HR, 4 K

Jeremy Papelbon: 3 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 5 K, 2 GO-2 FO

Blake Parker: 2.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 5 GO-2 FO

[Guest]

10/2: Cub minor league infielders commit 4 errors too but Waikiki somehow wins 11-2 Box Score

 

3B M. Smith 0/4, BB, 2 K, E (1, fielding)

2B T. Thomas 2/4, R, 2 RBI, HBP, 3 E (3, throw, throw, throw)

 

Tony Thomas: 2/17, 4 K, HBP, 3 E

Marquez Smith 4/19, 1 2B, 1 HR, 6 K, 1 BB, 1 E

Jeremy Papelbon: 3 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 5 K, 2 GO-2 FO

Blake Parker: 2.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 5 GO-2 FO

[SouthSideRyan]

3 throwing errors from a second baseman. That is very impressive.

[Guest]

10/3: Wakiki won 3-1 Box Score

 

2B T. Thomas 0/1, K

3B M. Smith 0/4, 3 K

RP J. Papelbon 2 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 GO-2 FO

 

Overall:

 

Tony Thomas: 2/18, 5 K, HBP, 3 E

Marquez Smith 4/23, 1 2B, 1 HR, 10 K, 1 BB, 1 E

Jeremy Papelbon: 5 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 4 BB, 8 K, 3 GO-4 FO

Blake Parker: 2.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 5 GO-2 FO

[Guest]

10/4: Waikiki lost 7-6 Box Score

 

2B T. Thomas 1/4, 2 K

RP B. Parker 0.1 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 1 GO-0 FO - as Waikiki's closer, he blew the game in the 9th inning

 

Overall:

 

Marquez Smith 4/23, 1 2B, 1 HR, 10 K, 1 BB, 1 E

Tony Thomas: 3/22, 7 K, 0 BB, 1 HBP, 3 E

Jeremy Papelbon: 5 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 4 BB, 8 K, 3 GO-4 FO

Blake Parker: 3 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 6 GO-2 FO

[Guest]

10/5: Waikiki won 6-4 Box Score

 

3B M. Smith 1/3, BB, K

 

Overall:

 

Marquez Smith 5/26, 1 2B, 1 HR, 10 K, 2 BB, 1 E - .192/.250/.346/.596

Tony Thomas: 3/22, 7 K, 0 BB, 1 HBP, 3 E - .136/.174/.136/.310

Jeremy Papelbon: 5 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 4 BB, 8 K, 3 GO-4 FO - 7.20 ERA

Blake Parker: 3 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 6 GO-2 FO - 9.00 ERA

[Guest]

10/7: Waikiki won 8-4 (7 innings) Box Score

 

No Cubs prospects played.

[Guest]

10/8: Waikiki lost 3-1 (7 innings) Box Score

 

3B M. Smith 1/3, K, 2 E (3, fielding, throw)

2B T. Thomas 0/1, BB

RP B. Parker 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 1 GO-0 FO

 

Overall:

 

Marquez Smith 6/29, 1 2B, 1 HR, 11 K, 2 BB, 3 E - .207/.258/.345/.603

Tony Thomas: 3/23, 7 K, 1 BB, 1 HBP, 3 E - .130/.200/.130/.330

Jeremy Papelbon: 5 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 4 BB, 8 K, 3 GO-4 FO - 7.20 ERA

Blake Parker: 4 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 7 GO-2 FO - 9.00 ERA

[Guest]

10/9 Waikiki lost 4-0 (7 innings) Box Score

 

3B M. Smith 0/3

RP J. Papelbon 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 2 GO-0 FO

 

Overall:

 

Marquez Smith 6/32, 1 2B, 1 HR, 11 K, 2 BB, 3 E - .188/.235/.313/.548

Tony Thomas: 3/23, 7 K, 1 BB, 1 HBP, 3 E - .130/.200/.130/.330

Jeremy Papelbon: 6.2 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 5 BB, 10 K, 5 GO-4 FO - 5.40 ERA

Blake Parker: 4 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 7 GO-2 FO - 9.00 ERA

[Guest]

10/10: Waikiki won 2-1 Box Score

 

2B T. Thomas 1/3, 2B (1), BB, K, CS (1) - check out that OPS finally over .400

3B M. Smith 0/4, K

 

Overall:

 

Marquez Smith 6/36, 1 2B, 1 HR, 12 K, 2 BB, 3 E - .167/.211/.278/.489

Tony Thomas: 4/26, 1 2B, 8 K, 2 BB, 1 HBP, 0/1 CS, 3 E - .154/.241/.192/.433

Jeremy Papelbon: 6.2 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 5 BB, 10 K, 5 GO-4 FO - 5.40 ERA

Blake Parker: 4 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 7 GO-2 FO - 9.00 ERA

[Brett]

Tough start for basically all of the HWL and AFL Cubs. Yikes.

[Guest]

10/11: Waikiki won 13-3 Box Score

 

3B M. Smith 2/5, R, 2B (2), 2 RBI, 2 K

 

Overall:

 

Marquez Smith 8/41, 2 2B, 1 HR, 14 K, 2 BB, 3 E - .195/.244/.317/.561

Tony Thomas: 4/26, 1 2B, 8 K, 2 BB, 1 HBP, 0/1 CS, 3 E - .154/.241/.192/.433

Jeremy Papelbon: 6.2 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 5 BB, 10 K, 5 GO-4 FO - 5.40 ERA

Blake Parker: 4 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 7 GO-2 FO - 9.00 ERA

[Guest]

10/12: Waikiki tied West Oahu 1-1 (10 innings) Box Score

 

2B T. Thomas 0/4

3B M. Smith 0/4

RP B. Parker 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K, 2 GO-2 FO

RP J. Papelbon 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K, 2 GO-0 FO

 

Overall:

 

Marquez Smith 8/45, 2 2B, 1 HR, 14 K, 2 BB, 3 E - .178/.213/.289/.502

Tony Thomas: 4/30, 1 2B, 8 K, 2 BB, 1 HBP, 0/1 CS, 3 E - .133/.212/.167/.379

Jeremy Papelbon: 7.2 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 6 BB, 11 K, 7 GO-4 FO - 4.69 ERA

Blake Parker: 5.1 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 9 GO-4 FO - 6.75 ERA

[Guest]

10/14: Waikiki lost 14-5 Box Score

 

3B M. Smith 1/4, K

 

Overall:

 

Marquez Smith 9/49, 2 2B, 1 HR, 15 K, 2 BB, 3 E - .184/.216/.286/.502

Tony Thomas: 4/30, 1 2B, 8 K, 2 BB, 1 HBP, 0/1 CS, 3 E - .133/.212/.167/.379

Jeremy Papelbon: 7.2 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 6 BB, 11 K, 7 GO-4 FO - 4.69 ERA

Blake Parker: 5.1 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 9 GO-4 FO - 6.75 ERA

[woodchip2153]

I'm not sure which one to post this in, so I just picked this one.

 

Arizona is considered a hitter's league, correct? How about Hawaii and Venezuela?

[Guest]

I'm not sure which one to post this in, so I just picked this one.

 

Arizona is considered a hitter's league, correct? How about Hawaii and Venezuela?

 

Part of the reason the AFL is considered a hitter's league is because not too many great pitching prospects get sent there to protect their arms. The same is the case for the HWB so I imagine it's more of a hitter's league.

 

Thus far this year, the HWB has a 4.85 league-wide ERA, the AFL has a 4.55 league-wide ERA.

 

It's tougher to gauge the foreign winter leagues because veteran players come and go but good pitchers are protected there too.

[woodchip2153]

I'm not sure which one to post this in, so I just picked this one.

 

Arizona is considered a hitter's league, correct? How about Hawaii and Venezuela?

 

Part of the reason the AFL is considered a hitter's league is because not too many great pitching prospects get sent there to protect their arms. The same is the case for the HWB so I imagine it's more of a hitter's league.

 

Thus far this year, the HWB has a 4.85 league-wide ERA, the AFL has a 4.55 league-wide ERA.

 

It's tougher to gauge the foreign winter leagues because veteran players come and go but good pitchers are protected there too.

 

I see, thanks. I'm just starting to follow the minor leagues and stuff, so was wondering what perspective I should put on the numbers you are posting.