Double Play RBI?

[chuckywang]

Everybody and their mother knows you don't get an RBI for a routine double play. However, let's say you have men on first and third, no outs.

 

Batter comes up and flies out deep to right. Guy on third tags and scores. Guy on 1st tags and gets thrown out at 2nd for a double play. Does the batter get an RBI?

 

Similarly, let's say the batter grounds out hard to 1st. Guy on 3rd scores, but the 1st baseman steps on first and then throws to second, and the guy on 1st who was running to 2nd is tagged out at 2nd. Furthermore, assume that if the 1st baseman threw to 2nd base first, the batter is fast enough to beat the relay throw easily. Does the batter get an RBI?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Yes.

 

The relevant rule:

 

"(1) when the batter grounds into a force double play or a reverse-force double play; or"

[chuckywang]

What the heck is a reverse force double play?

[SouthSideRyan]

What the heck is a reverse force double play?

 

I would imagine something along the lines of a 3-6 DP where the tag needs to be applied at 2nd?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

What the heck is a reverse force double play?

 

I would imagine something along the lines of a 3-6 DP where the tag needs to be applied at 2nd?

 

Correct.

 

(b) A reverse force double play is one in which the first out is a force play and the second out is made on a runner for whom the force is removed by reason of the first out. Examples of reverse force plays: runner on first, one out; batter grounds to first baseman, who steps on first base (one out) and throws to second baseman or shortstop for the second out (a tag play). Another example: bases loaded, none out; batter grounds to third baseman, who steps on third base (one out); then throws to catcher for the second out (tag play).

[chuckywang]

So no RBI for the second situation, I guess?