Should Theriot go back to leading off?

[The-Riot]

I hate guys who get thrown out stealing every 5 games and can't make plays at SS because of a mediocre arm and mediocre range.

 

Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base.

 

Like the best short stop on the team, Ronny Cedeno? Oh but he hits for power in addition to those things, that must be why you don't like him.

 

Remember when we gave Ronny a chance at short in 2006? Yeah we are trying to compete for a world series you don't have to big black holes (Pie/Johnson,Cedeno) in your lineup

Oh, the irony.

 

BTW, Pie's been very good since Dave Keller worked with him, but you wouldn't notice because Lou won't effing play him.

 

Yeah and Theriot has been good basically all year but no one wants to admit he is the teams starting shortstop

Everyone's admitting he's the starter. At issue is whether he should be (and he shouldn't)

 

And why is that?

[Clem Fandango]

Theriot is playing well right now. Doesn't mean he should lead off.

 

And besides that, Cedeno's ceiling is huge compared to Theriot's, and Cedeno is starting to show that he's putting it all together. We won't find out if he's a fluke if we don't play him, and hate to break it to you, if Cedeno isn't a fluke, Theriot should not be starting at SS if that's the case

Edited May 6, 2008 by The Logan

[The-Riot]

this dude is a faker

 

No sir I am not I read this site all the time I just dont get why people give Ryan such a hard time

 

We wouldn't be hard on him at all if his manager had half a brain and let him be the utility guy. We don't like that we have a decent bench player as our every day short stop, especially with all the god awful base running goofs and bone headed plays that Ryan makes look so routine.

 

A .322 BA and a .390 OBP is not good enough to start?

[SABR Gamer]

am i the only person who thinks Cedeno's gaudy stats would be considerably lower with additional ABs?

 

a full month of .400 on-base and Theriot still can't get anybody off his back on here. tough crowd.

 

Exactly. I think if Ryan Theriot hit like .350 over 5 months people here would still he sucks. I mean he must be doing something right he is the starting shortstop on probably the best team in the NL Central.

 

The best team in a bad division isn't impressive, and all that does is tell you how good the rest of the lineup is if they are still the best despite having Theriot playing every day.

[Roast]

Does anyone here really think we're going to change the opinion of this guy? look at his screen name. Look at his signature. No matter how logical of an argument you put up it's not going to help - so why waste your breath? or...keystrokes.

[SABR Gamer]

I hate guys who get thrown out stealing every 5 games and can't make plays at SS because of a mediocre arm and mediocre range.

 

Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base.

 

Like the best short stop on the team, Ronny Cedeno? Oh but he hits for power in addition to those things, that must be why you don't like him.

 

Remember when we gave Ronny a chance at short in 2006? Yeah we are trying to compete for a world series you don't have to big black holes (Pie/Johnson,Cedeno) in your lineup

Oh, the irony.

 

BTW, Pie's been very good since Dave Keller worked with him, but you wouldn't notice because Lou won't effing play him.

 

Yeah and Theriot has been good basically all year but no one wants to admit he is the teams starting shortstop

Everyone's admitting he's the starter. At issue is whether he should be (and he shouldn't)

 

And why is that?

 

Because he is the 2nd best player on the team at his position? It's not a hard concept to grasp, just try harder, I want to have faith that you can do this!

[The-Riot]

am i the only person who thinks Cedeno's gaudy stats would be considerably lower with additional ABs?

 

a full month of .400 on-base and Theriot still can't get anybody off his back on here. tough crowd.

 

Exactly. I think if Ryan Theriot hit like .350 over 5 months people here would still he sucks. I mean he must be doing something right he is the starting shortstop on probably the best team in the NL Central.

 

The best team in a bad division isn't impressive, and all that does is tell you how good the rest of the lineup is if they are still the best despite having Theriot playing every day.

 

I hate having a guy hitting .322 in my line up good call

[sneakypower]

The best team in a bad division isn't impressive, and all that does is tell you how good the rest of the lineup is if they are still the best despite having Theriot playing every day.

yes it's amazing we ever score with this joker and his .400 obp hitting 2nd

 

brainwashed

[The-Riot]

I hate guys who get thrown out stealing every 5 games and can't make plays at SS because of a mediocre arm and mediocre range.

 

Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base.

 

Like the best short stop on the team, Ronny Cedeno? Oh but he hits for power in addition to those things, that must be why you don't like him.

 

Remember when we gave Ronny a chance at short in 2006? Yeah we are trying to compete for a world series you don't have to big black holes (Pie/Johnson,Cedeno) in your lineup

Oh, the irony.

 

BTW, Pie's been very good since Dave Keller worked with him, but you wouldn't notice because Lou won't effing play him.

 

Yeah and Theriot has been good basically all year but no one wants to admit he is the teams starting shortstop

Everyone's admitting he's the starter. At issue is whether he should be (and he shouldn't)

 

And why is that?

 

Because he is the 2nd best player on the team at his position? It's not a hard concept to grasp, just try harder, I want to have faith that you can do this!

 

Wrong.

[SABR Gamer]

am i the only person who thinks Cedeno's gaudy stats would be considerably lower with additional ABs?

 

a full month of .400 on-base and Theriot still can't get anybody off his back on here. tough crowd.

 

Exactly. I think if Ryan Theriot hit like .350 over 5 months people here would still he sucks. I mean he must be doing something right he is the starting shortstop on probably the best team in the NL Central.

 

There is as good a chance that Chad Fox becomes the ace of our starting rotation as that happening.

[SABR Gamer]

I hate guys who get thrown out stealing every 5 games and can't make plays at SS because of a mediocre arm and mediocre range.

 

Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base.

 

Like the best short stop on the team, Ronny Cedeno? Oh but he hits for power in addition to those things, that must be why you don't like him.

 

Remember when we gave Ronny a chance at short in 2006? Yeah we are trying to compete for a world series you don't have to big black holes (Pie/Johnson,Cedeno) in your lineup

Oh, the irony.

 

BTW, Pie's been very good since Dave Keller worked with him, but you wouldn't notice because Lou won't effing play him.

 

Yeah and Theriot has been good basically all year but no one wants to admit he is the teams starting shortstop

Everyone's admitting he's the starter. At issue is whether he should be (and he shouldn't)

 

And why is that?

 

Because he is the 2nd best player on the team at his position? It's not a hard concept to grasp, just try harder, I want to have faith that you can do this!

 

Wrong.

 

Right.

[SABR Gamer]

I hate guys who get thrown out stealing every 5 games and can't make plays at SS because of a mediocre arm and mediocre range.

 

Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base.

 

Like the best short stop on the team, Ronny Cedeno? Oh but he hits for power in addition to those things, that must be why you don't like him.

 

Remember when we gave Ronny a chance at short in 2006? Yeah we are trying to compete for a world series you don't have to big black holes (Pie/Johnson,Cedeno) in your lineup

Oh, the irony.

 

BTW, Pie's been very good since Dave Keller worked with him, but you wouldn't notice because Lou won't effing play him.

 

Yeah and Theriot has been good basically all year but no one wants to admit he is the teams starting shortstop

Everyone's admitting he's the starter. At issue is whether he should be (and he shouldn't)

 

And why is that?

 

Because he is the 2nd best player on the team at his position? It's not a hard concept to grasp, just try harder, I want to have faith that you can do this!

 

Wrong.

 

Right.

 

Edit to clarify: (adding to above post, not responding to it) and the fact that Cedeno is finally playing like he usually does in the minors and that Theriot is blowing away anything he has ever come close to in the minors doesn't even matter?

Edited May 6, 2008 by New York Cubs Fan

[SABR Gamer]

Does anyone here really think we're going to change the opinion of this guy? look at his screen name. Look at his signature. No matter how logical of an argument you put up it's not going to help - so why waste your breath? or...keystrokes.

 

I'm going to take your advice...it isn't worth it.

[javy knows my name]

Does anyone here really think we're going to change the opinion of this guy? look at his screen name. Look at his signature. No matter how logical of an argument you put up it's not going to help - so why waste your breath? or...keystrokes.

 

I'm going to take your advice...it isn't worth it.

Besides, in your last post, you were arguing with yourself.

 

Glad I tapped outta this one early. Just thought I'd let you all know I'm smarter than you :D

[SABR Gamer]

am i the only person who thinks Cedeno's gaudy stats would be considerably lower with additional ABs?

 

a full month of .400 on-base and Theriot still can't get anybody off his back on here. tough crowd.

 

Exactly. I think if Ryan Theriot hit like .350 over 5 months people here would still he sucks. I mean he must be doing something right he is the starting shortstop on probably the best team in the NL Central.

 

The best team in a bad division isn't impressive, and all that does is tell you how good the rest of the lineup is if they are still the best despite having Theriot playing every day.

 

I hate having a guy hitting .322 in my line up good call

 

Ok I lied, I'm going to say something.

 

How long do you expect him to keep this up? Be honest.

[SABR Gamer]

The best team in a bad division isn't impressive, and all that does is tell you how good the rest of the lineup is if they are still the best despite having Theriot playing every day.

yes it's amazing we ever score with this joker and his .400 obp hitting 2nd

 

brainwashed

 

Same as above, you aren't tricking yourself into believing it has even a slim chance of keeping up, are you?

[The-Riot]

I hate guys who get thrown out stealing every 5 games and can't make plays at SS because of a mediocre arm and mediocre range.

 

Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base.

 

Like the best short stop on the team, Ronny Cedeno? Oh but he hits for power in addition to those things, that must be why you don't like him.

 

Remember when we gave Ronny a chance at short in 2006? Yeah we are trying to compete for a world series you don't have to big black holes (Pie/Johnson,Cedeno) in your lineup

Oh, the irony.

 

BTW, Pie's been very good since Dave Keller worked with him, but you wouldn't notice because Lou won't effing play him.

 

Yeah and Theriot has been good basically all year but no one wants to admit he is the teams starting shortstop

Everyone's admitting he's the starter. At issue is whether he should be (and he shouldn't)

 

And why is that?

 

Because he is the 2nd best player on the team at his position? It's not a hard concept to grasp, just try harder, I want to have faith that you can do this!

 

Wrong.

 

Right.

 

So the fact that Cedeno is finally playing like he usually does in the minors and that Theriot is blowing away anything he has ever come close to in the minors doesn't even matter?

 

If Cedeno had the same amount of playing time that our starting shortstop Ryan Theriot has I think you would be dissapointed by the result

[SABR Gamer]

Does anyone here really think we're going to change the opinion of this guy? look at his screen name. Look at his signature. No matter how logical of an argument you put up it's not going to help - so why waste your breath? or...keystrokes.

 

I'm going to take your advice...it isn't worth it.

Besides, in your last post, you were arguing with yourself.

 

Glad I tapped outta this one early. Just thought I'd let you all know I'm smarter than you :D

 

 

No I was adding to my previous post

[The-Riot]

am i the only person who thinks Cedeno's gaudy stats would be considerably lower with additional ABs?

 

a full month of .400 on-base and Theriot still can't get anybody off his back on here. tough crowd.

 

Exactly. I think if Ryan Theriot hit like .350 over 5 months people here would still he sucks. I mean he must be doing something right he is the starting shortstop on probably the best team in the NL Central.

 

The best team in a bad division isn't impressive, and all that does is tell you how good the rest of the lineup is if they are still the best despite having Theriot playing every day.

 

I hate having a guy hitting .322 in my line up good call

 

Ok I lied, I'm going to say something.

 

How long do you expect him to keep this up? Be honest.

 

He has been doing if for a month now. next month when he is still hitting over .300 what are you going to say? He can never be good enough for you I can tell that already.

[David]

lol at you guys responding to this troll attempt

 

I bet it's another one of Meph's ae's

[javy knows my name]

am i the only person who thinks Cedeno's gaudy stats would be considerably lower with additional ABs?

 

a full month of .400 on-base and Theriot still can't get anybody off his back on here. tough crowd.

 

Exactly. I think if Ryan Theriot hit like .350 over 5 months people here would still he sucks. I mean he must be doing something right he is the starting shortstop on probably the best team in the NL Central.

 

The best team in a bad division isn't impressive, and all that does is tell you how good the rest of the lineup is if they are still the best despite having Theriot playing every day.

 

I hate having a guy hitting .322 in my line up good call

 

Ok I lied, I'm going to say something.

 

How long do you expect him to keep this up? Be honest.

 

He has been doing if for a month now. next month when he is still hitting over .300 what are you going to say? He can never be good enough for you I can tell that already.

 

I'll eat crow out the crack of Theriot's ass if he keeps this up through the ASB

[The-Riot]

lol at you guys responding to this troll attempt

 

I bet it's another one of Meph's ae's

 

If my thread said "Ronny Cedeno needs to start NOW" no one would think im a troll

[NCCubFan]

I hate guys who get thrown out stealing every 5 games and can't make plays at SS because of a mediocre arm and mediocre range.

 

Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base.

I, on the other hand, like guys who can be counted on to STAY on base after getting on.

[The-Riot]

am i the only person who thinks Cedeno's gaudy stats would be considerably lower with additional ABs?

 

a full month of .400 on-base and Theriot still can't get anybody off his back on here. tough crowd.

 

Exactly. I think if Ryan Theriot hit like .350 over 5 months people here would still he sucks. I mean he must be doing something right he is the starting shortstop on probably the best team in the NL Central.

 

The best team in a bad division isn't impressive, and all that does is tell you how good the rest of the lineup is if they are still the best despite having Theriot playing every day.

 

I hate having a guy hitting .322 in my line up good call

 

Ok I lied, I'm going to say something.

 

How long do you expect him to keep this up? Be honest.

 

He has been doing if for a month now. next month when he is still hitting over .300 what are you going to say? He can never be good enough for you I can tell that already.

 

I'll eat crow out the crack of Theriot's ass if he keeps this up through the ASB

 

No you wouldnt you would find a differnt reason to bash him

[The-Riot]

I hate guys who get thrown out stealing every 5 games and can't make plays at SS because of a mediocre arm and mediocre range.

 

Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base.

I, on the other hand, like guys who can be counted on to STAY on base after getting on.

 

I agree Theriot should not be stealing as much (even tho he did steal 28 out of 32 last year)

Edited May 6, 2008 by The-Riot!