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lol tim tebow
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I have not posted on here in awhile. I want Peavy bad however. Make it happen Jim.
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Yes I do. Do YOU remember when Mike Schmidt hit .196 as a rookie? The Phillies obviously should have released that worthless bum. You just compared Ronny Cedeno to Mike Schmidt...................................................................................................................................................................................... Yes, to point out the absurdity of basing playing time decisions for THIS year based on a player's performance AS A ROOKIE TWO YEARS AGO. But its better to base how good a player is by 1 month of spot starts and pinch hitting? When that performance is THIS year and our argument is based on TWO YEARS AGO, yes. Yeah because if he started every game this year he would be hitting .380? I'm not going to continue this debate. I'm not going to change your mind, you're not going to change my mine, and ultimately the only mind that matters is Lou's. Agreed
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Yes I do. Do YOU remember when Mike Schmidt hit .196 as a rookie? The Phillies obviously should have released that worthless bum. You just compared Ronny Cedeno to Mike Schmidt...................................................................................................................................................................................... Yes, to point out the absurdity of basing playing time decisions for THIS year based on a player's performance AS A ROOKIE TWO YEARS AGO. But its better to base how good a player is by 1 month of spot starts and pinch hitting? When that performance is THIS year and our argument is based on TWO YEARS AGO, yes. Yeah because if he started every game this year he would be hitting .380?
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In 1973 Mike Schmidt as the everyday starter hit .196. In 1986 Barry Bonds as the everyday starter hit .223. In 1990 Sammy Sosa as the everyday starter hit .233. So enough judging a player based on his first year as an everyday starter. Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa had a little help im guessing
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Yes I do. Do YOU remember when Mike Schmidt hit .196 as a rookie? The Phillies obviously should have released that worthless bum. You just compared Ronny Cedeno to Mike Schmidt...................................................................................................................................................................................... Yes, to point out the absurdity of basing playing time decisions for THIS year based on a player's performance AS A ROOKIE TWO YEARS AGO. But its better to base how good a player is by 1 month of spot starts and pinch hitting?
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Exactly. I think if Ryan Theriot hit like .350 over 5 months people here would still he sucks. I mean he must be doing something right he is the starting shortstop on probably the best team in the NL Central. The best team in a bad division isn't impressive, and all that does is tell you how good the rest of the lineup is if they are still the best despite having Theriot playing every day. I hate having a guy hitting .322 in my line up good call Ok I lied, I'm going to say something. How long do you expect him to keep this up? Be honest. He has been doing if for a month now. next month when he is still hitting over .300 what are you going to say? He can never be good enough for you I can tell that already. He was hitting .300 May 19th last year, and finished .266, and in the minors he hit .252, .249, .273(IN A+ BALL AT AGE 24!!), he didn't have even a respectable average in the minors til he was 25 years old... Cedeno hit .355 in AAA at age 22, and then .359 at age 24... So to compare their age 22 seasons, Ryan Theriot was down in A ball hitting .252, while Cedeno was in AAA hitting .355, Cedeno is so much better this shouldn't even be a discussion. In 2006 Ronny Cedeno as the everyday starter hit .245
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Yes I do. Do YOU remember when Mike Schmidt hit .196 as a rookie? The Phillies obviously should have released that worthless bum. You just compared Ronny Cedeno to Mike Schmidt......................................................................................................................................................................................
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Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base. I, on the other hand, like guys who can be counted on to STAY on base after getting on. I agree Theriot should not be stealing as much (even tho he did steal 28 out of 32 last year)
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Exactly. I think if Ryan Theriot hit like .350 over 5 months people here would still he sucks. I mean he must be doing something right he is the starting shortstop on probably the best team in the NL Central. The best team in a bad division isn't impressive, and all that does is tell you how good the rest of the lineup is if they are still the best despite having Theriot playing every day. I hate having a guy hitting .322 in my line up good call Ok I lied, I'm going to say something. How long do you expect him to keep this up? Be honest. He has been doing if for a month now. next month when he is still hitting over .300 what are you going to say? He can never be good enough for you I can tell that already. I'll eat crow out the crack of Theriot's ass if he keeps this up through the ASB No you wouldnt you would find a differnt reason to bash him
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If my thread said "Ronny Cedeno needs to start NOW" no one would think im a troll
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Exactly. I think if Ryan Theriot hit like .350 over 5 months people here would still he sucks. I mean he must be doing something right he is the starting shortstop on probably the best team in the NL Central. The best team in a bad division isn't impressive, and all that does is tell you how good the rest of the lineup is if they are still the best despite having Theriot playing every day. I hate having a guy hitting .322 in my line up good call Ok I lied, I'm going to say something. How long do you expect him to keep this up? Be honest. He has been doing if for a month now. next month when he is still hitting over .300 what are you going to say? He can never be good enough for you I can tell that already.
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Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base. Like the best short stop on the team, Ronny Cedeno? Oh but he hits for power in addition to those things, that must be why you don't like him. Remember when we gave Ronny a chance at short in 2006? Yeah we are trying to compete for a world series you don't have to big black holes (Pie/Johnson,Cedeno) in your lineup Oh, the irony. BTW, Pie's been very good since Dave Keller worked with him, but you wouldn't notice because Lou won't effing play him. Yeah and Theriot has been good basically all year but no one wants to admit he is the teams starting shortstop Everyone's admitting he's the starter. At issue is whether he should be (and he shouldn't) And why is that? Because he is the 2nd best player on the team at his position? It's not a hard concept to grasp, just try harder, I want to have faith that you can do this! Wrong. Right. So the fact that Cedeno is finally playing like he usually does in the minors and that Theriot is blowing away anything he has ever come close to in the minors doesn't even matter? If Cedeno had the same amount of playing time that our starting shortstop Ryan Theriot has I think you would be dissapointed by the result
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Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base. Like the best short stop on the team, Ronny Cedeno? Oh but he hits for power in addition to those things, that must be why you don't like him. Remember when we gave Ronny a chance at short in 2006? Yeah we are trying to compete for a world series you don't have to big black holes (Pie/Johnson,Cedeno) in your lineup Oh, the irony. BTW, Pie's been very good since Dave Keller worked with him, but you wouldn't notice because Lou won't effing play him. Yeah and Theriot has been good basically all year but no one wants to admit he is the teams starting shortstop Everyone's admitting he's the starter. At issue is whether he should be (and he shouldn't) And why is that? Because he is the 2nd best player on the team at his position? It's not a hard concept to grasp, just try harder, I want to have faith that you can do this! Wrong.
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Exactly. I think if Ryan Theriot hit like .350 over 5 months people here would still he sucks. I mean he must be doing something right he is the starting shortstop on probably the best team in the NL Central. The best team in a bad division isn't impressive, and all that does is tell you how good the rest of the lineup is if they are still the best despite having Theriot playing every day. I hate having a guy hitting .322 in my line up good call
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No sir I am not I read this site all the time I just dont get why people give Ryan such a hard time We wouldn't be hard on him at all if his manager had half a brain and let him be the utility guy. We don't like that we have a decent bench player as our every day short stop, especially with all the god awful base running goofs and bone headed plays that Ryan makes look so routine. A .322 BA and a .390 OBP is not good enough to start?
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Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base. Like the best short stop on the team, Ronny Cedeno? Oh but he hits for power in addition to those things, that must be why you don't like him. Remember when we gave Ronny a chance at short in 2006? Yeah we are trying to compete for a world series you don't have to big black holes (Pie/Johnson,Cedeno) in your lineup Oh, the irony. BTW, Pie's been very good since Dave Keller worked with him, but you wouldn't notice because Lou won't effing play him. Yeah and Theriot has been good basically all year but no one wants to admit he is the teams starting shortstop Everyone's admitting he's the starter. At issue is whether he should be (and he shouldn't) And why is that?
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Exactly. I think if Ryan Theriot hit like .350 over 5 months people here would still he sucks. I mean he must be doing something right he is the starting shortstop on probably the best team in the NL Central.
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Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base. Like the best short stop on the team, Ronny Cedeno? Oh but he hits for power in addition to those things, that must be why you don't like him. Remember when we gave Ronny a chance at short in 2006? Yeah we are trying to compete for a world series you don't have to big black holes (Pie/Johnson,Cedeno) in your lineup Oh, the irony. BTW, Pie's been very good since Dave Keller worked with him, but you wouldn't notice because Lou won't effing play him. Yeah and Theriot has been good basically all year but no one wants to admit he is the teams starting shortstop
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No sir I am not I read this site all the time I just dont get why people give Ryan such a hard time
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Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base. Like the best short stop on the team, Ronny Cedeno? Oh but he hits for power in addition to those things, that must be why you don't like him. Remember when we gave Ronny a chance at short in 2006? Yeah we are trying to compete for a world series you don't have to big black holes (Pie/Johnson,Cedeno) in your lineup
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Funny because I like guys who hit over .300 and get on base.
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Yeah I know I hate guys who hit .322 with an OBP of about .390
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I think moving down Soriano has to happen. Im thinking something like this SS-Theriot RF-Fukudome 1B-Lee 3B-Ramirez C-Soto LF-Soriano 2B-DeRosa CF-Johnson/Pie P-Zambrano Fukudome batting 2nd is also a better idea. Cedeno can replace DeRosa if he continues struggling. Thoughts?