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[Warpticon]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

[imb]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

[Magnetic Curses]

Wasn't Shawn Kemp the same size as Dwight Howard?

 

Howard's much stronger and can jump a heck of a lot higher. Moreover, unlike Kemp, Howard's never had weight issues.

 

i don't know if there are many people in the world could jump higher than kemp in his prime.

[imb]

Wasn't Shawn Kemp the same size as Dwight Howard?

 

Howard's much stronger and can jump a heck of a lot higher. Moreover, unlike Kemp, Howard's never had weight issues.

 

i don't know if there are many people in the world could jump higher than kemp in his prime.

 

Dwight jumps higher, but no one was fiercer than Kemp. Remember the lister blister? Or the story about how Kemp made a chain link net spark after a playground dunk?

 

Watch this video, the warriors player (I think it's chris gatling) high fives him after getting dunked on.

 

 

also, the "bad MFing DJ" song halfway through is tiiiiiiiiiiight.

[illiniguy]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

[imb]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

 

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people commenting on players when it's clear that they don't even watch basketball.

[illiniguy]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

 

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people commenting on players when it's clear that they don't even watch basketball.

I still think that Kemp was as much a freak as Howard. Howard just has the fortune of not having to dunk in an era with other superstars who want to try the dunk contest. I would love to see LeBron and Kobe and Vince go at each other one time. Although Vince's knee might prevent that from happening at this point.

[TruffleShuffle]

Wasn't Shawn Kemp the same size as Dwight Howard?

 

Howard's much stronger and can jump a heck of a lot higher. Moreover, unlike Kemp, Howard's never had weight issues.

 

or 30 illegitimate kids

[illiniguy]

Wasn't Shawn Kemp the same size as Dwight Howard?

 

Howard's much stronger and can jump a heck of a lot higher. Moreover, unlike Kemp, Howard's never had weight issues.

 

or 30 illegitimate kids

He's young, give him time.

[imb]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

 

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people commenting on players when it's clear that they don't even watch basketball.

I still think that Kemp was as much a freak as Howard. Howard just has the fortune of not having to dunk in an era with other superstars who want to try the dunk contest. I would love to see LeBron and Kobe and Vince go at each other one time. Although Vince's knee might prevent that from happening at this point.

 

Kemp had the benefit of moving like a guard while still being 6'10 or whatever he was. No doubt about it that he was a complete freak. But Dwight does it at 270 pounds.

 

If Dwight had done his off the back of the backboard windmill in the contest that jordan and dominique were jumping from freethrow lines and doing two hand reverses, Dwight would have won by 20 points. Those dunks wouldn't get you out of the first round any more.

 

For the record, LeBron says he's not a good contest dunker and neither is Kobe, really. Not in the vein of what we saw last night. There's only so much innovation you can do with a ball in your hand, and I think we both know that Kobe is going to be putting on a Superman cape and dancing at midcourt.

 

Gerald Green can get higher than Kobe by a good 6 inches. Lebron dominated a HS dunk contest on ESPN, but he was dunking against white guys and just throwing the ball off the backboard. The dunk contest has been innovated now.

[illiniguy]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

 

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people commenting on players when it's clear that they don't even watch basketball.

I still think that Kemp was as much a freak as Howard. Howard just has the fortune of not having to dunk in an era with other superstars who want to try the dunk contest. I would love to see LeBron and Kobe and Vince go at each other one time. Although Vince's knee might prevent that from happening at this point.

 

Kemp had the benefit of moving like a guard while still being 6'10 or whatever he was. No doubt about it that he was a complete freak. But Dwight does it at 270 pounds.

 

If Dwight had done his off the back of the backboard windmill in the contest that jordan and dominique were jumping from freethrow lines and doing two hand reverses, Dwight would have won by 20 points. Those dunks wouldn't get you out of the first round any more.

 

For the record, LeBron says he's not a good contest dunker and neither is Kobe, really. Not in the vein of what we saw last night. There's only so much innovation you can do with a ball in your hand, and I think we both know that Kobe is going to be putting on a Superman cape and dancing at midcourt.

 

Gerald Green can get higher than Kobe by a good 6 inches. Lebron dominated a HS dunk contest on ESPN, but he was dunking against white guys and just throwing the ball off the backboard. The dunk contest has been innovated now.

I am aware of this, but the superstars make the thing. Tomorrow Gerald Green goes back to being a nobody at the end of the bench for the Wolves. I still think Vince had a better performance than anyone last night and didn't have to resort to using props. He just wrong way 360ed with a huge windmill and looked like he just easily did it.

[Derwood]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

 

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people commenting on players when it's clear that they don't even watch basketball.

I still think that Kemp was as much a freak as Howard. Howard just has the fortune of not having to dunk in an era with other superstars who want to try the dunk contest. I would love to see LeBron and Kobe and Vince go at each other one time. Although Vince's knee might prevent that from happening at this point.

 

Kemp had the benefit of moving like a guard while still being 6'10 or whatever he was. No doubt about it that he was a complete freak. But Dwight does it at 270 pounds.

 

If Dwight had done his off the back of the backboard windmill in the contest that jordan and dominique were jumping from freethrow lines and doing two hand reverses, Dwight would have won by 20 points. Those dunks wouldn't get you out of the first round any more.

 

For the record, LeBron says he's not a good contest dunker and neither is Kobe, really. Not in the vein of what we saw last night. There's only so much innovation you can do with a ball in your hand, and I think we both know that Kobe is going to be putting on a Superman cape and dancing at midcourt.

 

Gerald Green can get higher than Kobe by a good 6 inches. Lebron dominated a HS dunk contest on ESPN, but he was dunking against white guys and just throwing the ball off the backboard. The dunk contest has been innovated now.

I am aware of this, but the superstars make the thing. Tomorrow Gerald Green goes back to being a nobody at the end of the bench for the Wolves. I still think Vince had a better performance than anyone last night and didn't have to resort to using props. He just wrong way 360ed with a huge windmill and looked like he just easily did it.

 

the dunk where Vince hung from his elbow on the rim is probably the most underrated dunk in contest history

[illiniguy]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

 

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people commenting on players when it's clear that they don't even watch basketball.

I still think that Kemp was as much a freak as Howard. Howard just has the fortune of not having to dunk in an era with other superstars who want to try the dunk contest. I would love to see LeBron and Kobe and Vince go at each other one time. Although Vince's knee might prevent that from happening at this point.

 

Kemp had the benefit of moving like a guard while still being 6'10 or whatever he was. No doubt about it that he was a complete freak. But Dwight does it at 270 pounds.

 

If Dwight had done his off the back of the backboard windmill in the contest that jordan and dominique were jumping from freethrow lines and doing two hand reverses, Dwight would have won by 20 points. Those dunks wouldn't get you out of the first round any more.

 

For the record, LeBron says he's not a good contest dunker and neither is Kobe, really. Not in the vein of what we saw last night. There's only so much innovation you can do with a ball in your hand, and I think we both know that Kobe is going to be putting on a Superman cape and dancing at midcourt.

 

Gerald Green can get higher than Kobe by a good 6 inches. Lebron dominated a HS dunk contest on ESPN, but he was dunking against white guys and just throwing the ball off the backboard. The dunk contest has been innovated now.

I am aware of this, but the superstars make the thing. Tomorrow Gerald Green goes back to being a nobody at the end of the bench for the Wolves. I still think Vince had a better performance than anyone last night and didn't have to resort to using props. He just wrong way 360ed with a huge windmill and looked like he just easily did it.

 

the dunk where Vince hung from his elbow on the rim is probably the most underrated dunk in contest history

I don't know how he didn't break his arm. I used to be able to dunk, not to that level at all, but I don't get how you don't break your arm doing that dunk.

My vote for most underrated though was Ricky Davis' between the legs reverse dunk. The same one Richardson did a few year later when everyone went crazy. Ricky just did his when Vince was going insane.

Edited February 17, 2008 by illiniguy

[Derwood]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

 

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people commenting on players when it's clear that they don't even watch basketball.

I still think that Kemp was as much a freak as Howard. Howard just has the fortune of not having to dunk in an era with other superstars who want to try the dunk contest. I would love to see LeBron and Kobe and Vince go at each other one time. Although Vince's knee might prevent that from happening at this point.

 

Kemp had the benefit of moving like a guard while still being 6'10 or whatever he was. No doubt about it that he was a complete freak. But Dwight does it at 270 pounds.

 

If Dwight had done his off the back of the backboard windmill in the contest that jordan and dominique were jumping from freethrow lines and doing two hand reverses, Dwight would have won by 20 points. Those dunks wouldn't get you out of the first round any more.

 

For the record, LeBron says he's not a good contest dunker and neither is Kobe, really. Not in the vein of what we saw last night. There's only so much innovation you can do with a ball in your hand, and I think we both know that Kobe is going to be putting on a Superman cape and dancing at midcourt.

 

Gerald Green can get higher than Kobe by a good 6 inches. Lebron dominated a HS dunk contest on ESPN, but he was dunking against white guys and just throwing the ball off the backboard. The dunk contest has been innovated now.

I am aware of this, but the superstars make the thing. Tomorrow Gerald Green goes back to being a nobody at the end of the bench for the Wolves. I still think Vince had a better performance than anyone last night and didn't have to resort to using props. He just wrong way 360ed with a huge windmill and looked like he just easily did it.

 

the dunk where Vince hung from his elbow on the rim is probably the most underrated dunk in contest history

I don't know how he didn't break his arm. I used to be able to dunk, not to that level at all, but I don't get how you don't break your arm doing that dunk.

 

i remember watching him do that one and then getting low scores because i don't think people realized exactly what he did. how high do you have to jump to get your arm down into the basket like that? sick

 

and i'm jealous of people who can dunk. i'm 6'3" and i can barely touch the rim. i have zero hops

[imb]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

 

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people commenting on players when it's clear that they don't even watch basketball.

I still think that Kemp was as much a freak as Howard. Howard just has the fortune of not having to dunk in an era with other superstars who want to try the dunk contest. I would love to see LeBron and Kobe and Vince go at each other one time. Although Vince's knee might prevent that from happening at this point.

 

Kemp had the benefit of moving like a guard while still being 6'10 or whatever he was. No doubt about it that he was a complete freak. But Dwight does it at 270 pounds.

 

If Dwight had done his off the back of the backboard windmill in the contest that jordan and dominique were jumping from freethrow lines and doing two hand reverses, Dwight would have won by 20 points. Those dunks wouldn't get you out of the first round any more.

 

For the record, LeBron says he's not a good contest dunker and neither is Kobe, really. Not in the vein of what we saw last night. There's only so much innovation you can do with a ball in your hand, and I think we both know that Kobe is going to be putting on a Superman cape and dancing at midcourt.

 

Gerald Green can get higher than Kobe by a good 6 inches. Lebron dominated a HS dunk contest on ESPN, but he was dunking against white guys and just throwing the ball off the backboard. The dunk contest has been innovated now.

I am aware of this, but the superstars make the thing. Tomorrow Gerald Green goes back to being a nobody at the end of the bench for the Wolves. I still think Vince had a better performance than anyone last night and didn't have to resort to using props. He just wrong way 360ed with a huge windmill and looked like he just easily did it.

 

I agree that superstars can ratchet up the excitement - I can't imagine what it was like preparing to watch Dominique and Jordan go head to head - but in the end, i think most people would rather watch nobodies do incredible things than superstars throw down game dunks.

 

That being said, the VC contest was the best single performance in anything ever. The two handed FT line dunk doesn't get enough respect. But seriously, you think Gerald Green couldn't do that? He did Vince's between the legs dunk (actually it's Isaiah Rider's) with no shoes on. I see high school players hook their elbows in the rim. Things have changed.

 

All this being said, no superstar like kobe or lebron is going to enter a dunk contest and risk being embarassed by Jamario Moon.

[illiniguy]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

 

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people commenting on players when it's clear that they don't even watch basketball.

I still think that Kemp was as much a freak as Howard. Howard just has the fortune of not having to dunk in an era with other superstars who want to try the dunk contest. I would love to see LeBron and Kobe and Vince go at each other one time. Although Vince's knee might prevent that from happening at this point.

 

Kemp had the benefit of moving like a guard while still being 6'10 or whatever he was. No doubt about it that he was a complete freak. But Dwight does it at 270 pounds.

 

If Dwight had done his off the back of the backboard windmill in the contest that jordan and dominique were jumping from freethrow lines and doing two hand reverses, Dwight would have won by 20 points. Those dunks wouldn't get you out of the first round any more.

 

For the record, LeBron says he's not a good contest dunker and neither is Kobe, really. Not in the vein of what we saw last night. There's only so much innovation you can do with a ball in your hand, and I think we both know that Kobe is going to be putting on a Superman cape and dancing at midcourt.

 

Gerald Green can get higher than Kobe by a good 6 inches. Lebron dominated a HS dunk contest on ESPN, but he was dunking against white guys and just throwing the ball off the backboard. The dunk contest has been innovated now.

I am aware of this, but the superstars make the thing. Tomorrow Gerald Green goes back to being a nobody at the end of the bench for the Wolves. I still think Vince had a better performance than anyone last night and didn't have to resort to using props. He just wrong way 360ed with a huge windmill and looked like he just easily did it.

 

the dunk where Vince hung from his elbow on the rim is probably the most underrated dunk in contest history

I don't know how he didn't break his arm. I used to be able to dunk, not to that level at all, but I don't get how you don't break your arm doing that dunk.

 

i remember watching him do that one and then getting low scores because i don't think people realized exactly what he did. how high do you have to jump to get your arm down into the basket like that? sick

 

and i'm jealous of people who can dunk. i'm 6'3" and i can barely touch the rim. i have zero hops

Yeah thats because in large part they had judges who couldn't dunk themselves that year. It was like Isaiah Thomas and Cynthia Cooper. Which one of those two ever dunked a ball before, on a ten foot rim? Oh and then Kenny Smith was there, but he was still orgasming over the first one Vince did.

[illiniguy]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

 

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people commenting on players when it's clear that they don't even watch basketball.

I still think that Kemp was as much a freak as Howard. Howard just has the fortune of not having to dunk in an era with other superstars who want to try the dunk contest. I would love to see LeBron and Kobe and Vince go at each other one time. Although Vince's knee might prevent that from happening at this point.

 

Kemp had the benefit of moving like a guard while still being 6'10 or whatever he was. No doubt about it that he was a complete freak. But Dwight does it at 270 pounds.

 

If Dwight had done his off the back of the backboard windmill in the contest that jordan and dominique were jumping from freethrow lines and doing two hand reverses, Dwight would have won by 20 points. Those dunks wouldn't get you out of the first round any more.

 

For the record, LeBron says he's not a good contest dunker and neither is Kobe, really. Not in the vein of what we saw last night. There's only so much innovation you can do with a ball in your hand, and I think we both know that Kobe is going to be putting on a Superman cape and dancing at midcourt.

 

Gerald Green can get higher than Kobe by a good 6 inches. Lebron dominated a HS dunk contest on ESPN, but he was dunking against white guys and just throwing the ball off the backboard. The dunk contest has been innovated now.

I am aware of this, but the superstars make the thing. Tomorrow Gerald Green goes back to being a nobody at the end of the bench for the Wolves. I still think Vince had a better performance than anyone last night and didn't have to resort to using props. He just wrong way 360ed with a huge windmill and looked like he just easily did it.

 

I agree that superstars can ratchet up the excitement - I can't imagine what it was like preparing to watch Dominique and Jordan go head to head - but in the end, i think most people would rather watch nobodies do incredible things than superstars throw down game dunks.

 

That being said, the VC contest was the best single performance in anything ever. The two handed FT line dunk doesn't get enough respect. But seriously, you think Gerald Green couldn't do that? He did Vince's between the legs dunk (actually it's Isaiah Rider's) with no shoes on. I see high school players hook their elbows in the rim. Things have changed.

 

All this being said, no superstar like kobe or lebron is going to enter a dunk contest and risk being embarassed by Jamario Moon.

I sitll think Vince had more. It was rumored he could pull a 720. The Jordan vs Dominque thing was pretty bad, but too be honest the Spud Webb one stuck with me the longest. The superstars didn't mind losing then. I remember when Isaiah Rider did that in the college dunk contest. The East Bay Funk Dunk, then proclaimed he would be winning the NBA dunk contest the next year.

[Derwood]

[illiniguy]

He was a bad man. Supposedly he lost to Ronnie Fields though in a high school dunk contest.

 

Look at this one.

 

:shock:

[imb]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

 

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people commenting on players when it's clear that they don't even watch basketball.

I still think that Kemp was as much a freak as Howard. Howard just has the fortune of not having to dunk in an era with other superstars who want to try the dunk contest. I would love to see LeBron and Kobe and Vince go at each other one time. Although Vince's knee might prevent that from happening at this point.

 

Kemp had the benefit of moving like a guard while still being 6'10 or whatever he was. No doubt about it that he was a complete freak. But Dwight does it at 270 pounds.

 

If Dwight had done his off the back of the backboard windmill in the contest that jordan and dominique were jumping from freethrow lines and doing two hand reverses, Dwight would have won by 20 points. Those dunks wouldn't get you out of the first round any more.

 

For the record, LeBron says he's not a good contest dunker and neither is Kobe, really. Not in the vein of what we saw last night. There's only so much innovation you can do with a ball in your hand, and I think we both know that Kobe is going to be putting on a Superman cape and dancing at midcourt.

 

Gerald Green can get higher than Kobe by a good 6 inches. Lebron dominated a HS dunk contest on ESPN, but he was dunking against white guys and just throwing the ball off the backboard. The dunk contest has been innovated now.

I am aware of this, but the superstars make the thing. Tomorrow Gerald Green goes back to being a nobody at the end of the bench for the Wolves. I still think Vince had a better performance than anyone last night and didn't have to resort to using props. He just wrong way 360ed with a huge windmill and looked like he just easily did it.

 

I agree that superstars can ratchet up the excitement - I can't imagine what it was like preparing to watch Dominique and Jordan go head to head - but in the end, i think most people would rather watch nobodies do incredible things than superstars throw down game dunks.

 

That being said, the VC contest was the best single performance in anything ever. The two handed FT line dunk doesn't get enough respect. But seriously, you think Gerald Green couldn't do that? He did Vince's between the legs dunk (actually it's Isaiah Rider's) with no shoes on. I see high school players hook their elbows in the rim. Things have changed.

 

All this being said, no superstar like kobe or lebron is going to enter a dunk contest and risk being embarassed by Jamario Moon.

I sitll think Vince had more. It was rumored he could pull a 720. The Jordan vs Dominque thing was pretty bad, but too be honest the Spud Webb one stuck with me the longest. The superstars didn't mind losing then. I remember when Isaiah Rider did that in the college dunk contest. The East Bay Funk Dunk, then proclaimed he would be winning the NBA dunk contest the next year.

 

No one can do a 720. Not a legit one, anyway. Even the guy that "does one" starts out with his back to the basket.

[illiniguy]

Kemp didn't really have weight issues until late in his career. Howard is 22. Not a meaningful comparison. Also had pretty much nothing to do with the original comment.

 

Yeah, there' a lot of talk in here about basketball from people that don't know basketball.

I know it to the extent that I played it in college and have helped coach it. I don't really understand the per issue. I guess it includes defense, or at least hope it would as it is a pretty big part of the game.

 

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people commenting on players when it's clear that they don't even watch basketball.

I still think that Kemp was as much a freak as Howard. Howard just has the fortune of not having to dunk in an era with other superstars who want to try the dunk contest. I would love to see LeBron and Kobe and Vince go at each other one time. Although Vince's knee might prevent that from happening at this point.

 

Kemp had the benefit of moving like a guard while still being 6'10 or whatever he was. No doubt about it that he was a complete freak. But Dwight does it at 270 pounds.

 

If Dwight had done his off the back of the backboard windmill in the contest that jordan and dominique were jumping from freethrow lines and doing two hand reverses, Dwight would have won by 20 points. Those dunks wouldn't get you out of the first round any more.

 

For the record, LeBron says he's not a good contest dunker and neither is Kobe, really. Not in the vein of what we saw last night. There's only so much innovation you can do with a ball in your hand, and I think we both know that Kobe is going to be putting on a Superman cape and dancing at midcourt.

 

Gerald Green can get higher than Kobe by a good 6 inches. Lebron dominated a HS dunk contest on ESPN, but he was dunking against white guys and just throwing the ball off the backboard. The dunk contest has been innovated now.

I am aware of this, but the superstars make the thing. Tomorrow Gerald Green goes back to being a nobody at the end of the bench for the Wolves. I still think Vince had a better performance than anyone last night and didn't have to resort to using props. He just wrong way 360ed with a huge windmill and looked like he just easily did it.

 

I agree that superstars can ratchet up the excitement - I can't imagine what it was like preparing to watch Dominique and Jordan go head to head - but in the end, i think most people would rather watch nobodies do incredible things than superstars throw down game dunks.

 

That being said, the VC contest was the best single performance in anything ever. The two handed FT line dunk doesn't get enough respect. But seriously, you think Gerald Green couldn't do that? He did Vince's between the legs dunk (actually it's Isaiah Rider's) with no shoes on. I see high school players hook their elbows in the rim. Things have changed.

 

All this being said, no superstar like kobe or lebron is going to enter a dunk contest and risk being embarassed by Jamario Moon.

I sitll think Vince had more. It was rumored he could pull a 720. The Jordan vs Dominque thing was pretty bad, but too be honest the Spud Webb one stuck with me the longest. The superstars didn't mind losing then. I remember when Isaiah Rider did that in the college dunk contest. The East Bay Funk Dunk, then proclaimed he would be winning the NBA dunk contest the next year.

 

No one can do a 720. Not a legit one, anyway. Even the guy that "does one" starts out with his back to the basket.

Jordan couldn't really fly either, but he sure looked like he was.

[Derwood]

He was a bad man. Supposedly he lost to Ronnie Fields though in a high school dunk contest.

 

Look at this one.

 

:shock:

 

i'm even more ashamed of my whiteness now. that boy has hops

[imb]

He was a bad man. Supposedly he lost to Ronnie Fields though in a high school dunk contest.

 

Look at this one.

 

:shock:

 

i'm even more ashamed of my whiteness now. that boy has hops

 

he's canadian so it doesn't count.

 

gerald green does all those dunks, gets higher, and he got obliterated last night.

[illiniguy]

He was a bad man. Supposedly he lost to Ronnie Fields though in a high school dunk contest.

 

Look at this one.

 

:shock:

 

i'm even more ashamed of my whiteness now. that boy has hops

 

he's canadian so it doesn't count.

 

gerald green does all those dunks, gets higher, and he got obliterated last night.

But he isn't white. That makes a big difference, just ask Brent Barry. Also, Green won a three point shoot out in high school, why the heck hasn't his game developed anymore than it has?

[imb]

He was a bad man. Supposedly he lost to Ronnie Fields though in a high school dunk contest.

 

Look at this one.

 

:shock:

 

i'm even more ashamed of my whiteness now. that boy has hops

 

he's canadian so it doesn't count.

 

gerald green does all those dunks, gets higher, and he got obliterated last night.

But he isn't white. That makes a big difference, just ask Brent Barry. Also, Green won a three point shoot out in high school, why the heck hasn't his game developed anymore than it has?

 

You've got me. You know how these kids can be, he probably just fell in love with his athleticism. Really, someone his size, with his athletic ability, should not be a 10th man on the Timberwolves.

 

I remember when he signed with OSU and I was terrified of having to go against him twice a year. Now it seems like he gets worse every year.