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[Sammy Sofa]

He just hit a HR that happened to be the third HR in a row his team had hit that inning. That rarely happens, especially in the playoffs. I have zero problem with what he did.

[Guest]

He just hit a HR that happened to be the third HR in a row his team had hit that inning. That rarely happens, especially in the playoffs. I have zero problem with what he did.

 

He was excessive, the score was still 7-3. I'd have beaned him if it was a regular season game.

[Sammy Sofa]

He just hit a HR that happened to be the third HR in a row his team had hit that inning. That rarely happens, especially in the playoffs. I have zero problem with what he did.

 

He was excessive, the score was still 7-3. I'd have beaned him if it was a regular season game.

 

And it's ridiculous that a guy posing for a couple seconds after hitting a homer is so reprehensible, but a pitcher getting back at him by drilling in the ribs with a fastball is just fine.

[UK1679666180]

I would've popped him one too and then pointed at the scoreboard.

[hardcorecubfan]

Name is important, esp if it has four/five letter let's say Augie or Gary (Gietti), Matt. These could be nicknames like Buck or Gabby, "the moose"

catfish.

 

I do believe we are real bored and cleveland and the Resox aren't satisfying our craving for baseball, but this was a good thinking subject.

[erik316wttn]

I really don't see the need in showing up your opponent.

 

You hit a home run. You've hit them before, and you'll hit them again. Jog around the bases, go high-five your teammates, and sit the hell down. Don't sit there and admire it.

 

I liken it to the NFL player who scores a touchdown in garbage time and celebrates like he just won the Super Bowl.

 

Of course, the media focuses more on individual performances than it does on team play, so a long home run is more likely to make SportsCenter than, say, a manufactured run.

[Guest]

On the rare chance they do hit a home run, truly gritty players always only stare at the ground or straight ahead, jog politely around the bases and show no emotion whatsoever.

 

NO!! THEY NEVER JOG. NEVER!

 

They run around the bases in twenty seconds.

 

he's right - scott rolen is not gritty.

[snoodmonger]

they got a run closer. it was a big hit.

 

that said, why is it so bad to celebrate a personal accomplishment?

[Mephistopheles]

The only time a gritty player should celebrate is after taking out the shortstop or 2B on a potential double play ball, getting hit by a pitch or running over the catcher and scoring.

[Guest]

The only time a gritty player should celebrate is after taking out the shortstop or 2B on a potential double play ball, getting hit by a pitch or running over the catcher and scoring.

 

WRONG! A gritty player only celebrates when the team wins . . . the world series. anything less is just a piece of the bigger picture.

[Mephistopheles]

The only time a gritty player should celebrate is after taking out the shortstop or 2B on a potential double play ball, getting hit by a pitch or running over the catcher and scoring.

 

WRONG! A gritty player only celebrates when the team wins . . . the world series. anything less is just a piece of the bigger picture.

 

no the gritty player relishes hustle, pain and suffering.

 

the ultimate gritty player:

 

http://library.thinkquest.org/J002612/Player%20Photos/Pete%20rose.gif

[Guest]

I can't agree with you there.

 

Look at the grit lines on his face!

[Sammy Sofa]

Peter Rose was too damn good to be gritty. There must be some kind of cutoff point.

[Mephistopheles]

gritty doesnt mean bad.

[Guest]

gritty doesnt mean bad.

 

no, it generally does mean overrated though, which applies here.

[Mephistopheles]

gritty doesnt mean bad.

 

no, it generally does mean overrated though, which applies here.

 

and rose is overrated. OMG HIT KINGZ

[Outshined_One]

The only time a gritty player should celebrate is after taking out the shortstop or 2B on a potential double play ball, getting hit by a pitch or running over the catcher and scoring.

 

Which results in:

 

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4688/ajmot3oi2.jpg

[ndp]

I've decided that the time is now to come up with a metric to measure the grittiness of a player compared to his peers. This is what I have so far:

 

# of IF hits + # of Sac Bunts * BA w/ RiSP. / height in inches.

 

So, if you had a player with 20 infield hits and 25 sac bunts, you take 45 and multiply it by, say .288, you would get 12.96. Let's assume this player is 5'8. You then divide it by 68 and you get a GRIT factor of .19.

 

So, the taller you are, and the fewer gritty type hits and bunts you made, and the less clutchy you are, the worse your GRIT factor will be. Like, if you're 6'5, with the same numbers, you get a GRIT factor of .16. Which means you can't be as gritty as a shorter player with the same skillset.

 

I'd like to work in other clutchy metrics, because, let's face it, there's a need to evaluate gritty grindy hustleballers sabermetrically. So what else should the formula include? HBP? Walks? Walk off hits? Years spent in minors?

 

I think we can do this. I think we can create an awesome metric here. I'm looking for feedback.

 

I think research has begun on this. You're six months late to the party.

[macuser2]

I've decided that the time is now to come up with a metric to measure the grittiness of a player compared to his peers. This is what I have so far:

 

# of IF hits + # of Sac Bunts * BA w/ RiSP. / height in inches.

 

So, if you had a player with 20 infield hits and 25 sac bunts, you take 45 and multiply it by, say .288, you would get 12.96. Let's assume this player is 5'8. You then divide it by 68 and you get a GRIT factor of .19.

 

So, the taller you are, and the fewer gritty type hits and bunts you made, and the less clutchy you are, the worse your GRIT factor will be. Like, if you're 6'5, with the same numbers, you get a GRIT factor of .16. Which means you can't be as gritty as a shorter player with the same skillset.

 

I'd like to work in other clutchy metrics, because, let's face it, there's a need to evaluate gritty grindy hustleballers sabermetrically. So what else should the formula include? HBP? Walks? Walk off hits? Years spent in minors?

 

I think we can do this. I think we can create an awesome metric here. I'm looking for feedback.

 

I think research has begun on this. You're six months late to the party.

 

:D :D :D :D

 

But he shouldn't feel bad; didn't someone once say that great minds think alike? :wink:

[USSoccer]

I've decided that the time is now to come up with a metric to measure the grittiness of a player compared to his peers. This is what I have so far:

 

# of IF hits + # of Sac Bunts * BA w/ RiSP. / height in inches.

 

So, if you had a player with 20 infield hits and 25 sac bunts, you take 45 and multiply it by, say .288, you would get 12.96. Let's assume this player is 5'8. You then divide it by 68 and you get a GRIT factor of .19.

 

So, the taller you are, and the fewer gritty type hits and bunts you made, and the less clutchy you are, the worse your GRIT factor will be. Like, if you're 6'5, with the same numbers, you get a GRIT factor of .16. Which means you can't be as gritty as a shorter player with the same skillset.

 

I'd like to work in other clutchy metrics, because, let's face it, there's a need to evaluate gritty grindy hustleballers sabermetrically. So what else should the formula include? HBP? Walks? Walk off hits? Years spent in minors?

 

I think we can do this. I think we can create an awesome metric here. I'm looking for feedback.

 

I think research has begun on this. You're six months late to the party.

 

What's a Desipio?

[Sammy Sofa]

gritty doesnt mean bad.

 

no, it generally does mean overrated though, which applies here.

 

and rose is overrated. OMG HIT KINGZ

 

But he was still by and large a "good" player. I think true GRIT involves distinctly middling mediocrity dressed up in a pretty, hustling package.

[ndp]

I've decided that the time is now to come up with a metric to measure the grittiness of a player compared to his peers. This is what I have so far:

 

# of IF hits + # of Sac Bunts * BA w/ RiSP. / height in inches.

 

So, if you had a player with 20 infield hits and 25 sac bunts, you take 45 and multiply it by, say .288, you would get 12.96. Let's assume this player is 5'8. You then divide it by 68 and you get a GRIT factor of .19.

 

So, the taller you are, and the fewer gritty type hits and bunts you made, and the less clutchy you are, the worse your GRIT factor will be. Like, if you're 6'5, with the same numbers, you get a GRIT factor of .16. Which means you can't be as gritty as a shorter player with the same skillset.

 

I'd like to work in other clutchy metrics, because, let's face it, there's a need to evaluate gritty grindy hustleballers sabermetrically. So what else should the formula include? HBP? Walks? Walk off hits? Years spent in minors?

 

I think we can do this. I think we can create an awesome metric here. I'm looking for feedback.

 

I think research has begun on this. You're six months late to the party.

 

What's a Desipio?

 

Learn Latin.

[CubinNY]

I've decided that the time is now to come up with a metric to measure the grittiness of a player compared to his peers. This is what I have so far:

 

# of IF hits + # of Sac Bunts * BA w/ RiSP. / height in inches.

 

So, if you had a player with 20 infield hits and 25 sac bunts, you take 45 and multiply it by, say .288, you would get 12.96. Let's assume this player is 5'8. You then divide it by 68 and you get a GRIT factor of .19.

 

So, the taller you are, and the fewer gritty type hits and bunts you made, and the less clutchy you are, the worse your GRIT factor will be. Like, if you're 6'5, with the same numbers, you get a GRIT factor of .16. Which means you can't be as gritty as a shorter player with the same skillset.

 

I'd like to work in other clutchy metrics, because, let's face it, there's a need to evaluate gritty grindy hustleballers sabermetrically. So what else should the formula include? HBP? Walks? Walk off hits? Years spent in minors?

 

I think we can do this. I think we can create an awesome metric here. I'm looking for feedback.

 

I think research has begun on this. You're six months late to the party.

 

What's a Desipio?

 

Learn Latin.

It's a perfect descriptor then?

[MSG T]

gritty doesnt mean bad.

 

no, it generally does mean overrated though, which applies here.

 

and rose is overrated. OMG HIT KINGZ

 

But he was still by and large a "good" player. I think true GRIT involves distinctly middling mediocrity dressed up in a pretty, hustling package.

 

 

Podsednik??

[satxcubfan]

Why all the focus on GRIT? What ever happened to being SCRAPPY???