Murton with men on base

[Peoriaman]

I love the adorable redhead. I just wish he would get a big hit with men on base, not just get hits with the bases empty. I know the moneyball people don't care about RBI's or BA with RISP, but this guy does. :)

 

You don't love him. You take every possible opportunity to knock him.

 

 

I knock his performance, not him.

 

Everything I have read about him indicates he is a terrific kid, a great teammate and a very hard worker. I cheer for him to succeed every at bat. I think the love for him as a player here goes way overboard.

[soapy]

Thanks for the numbers, CCP. I wonder if that trend will continue for Murton, or if it's more of a fluke.

 

thanks Colt. Those results are more dramatic than even I imagined. He needs to pick it up if he wants to be a starting corner outfielder. That is the reality.

 

As for the earlier question, I always value high RBI guys over low RBI guys, especially for corner outfielders.

 

Again, I know moneyball guys think RBI's are insignificant, but I beg to disagree. I also realize that the moneyball guys will never come over to that way of thinking. So it goes....

 

Couple of things. I think it's obvious that Murton is more of a top of the order hitting with OBP being his biggest strength. He's fine for a corner OF if they are getting production elsewhere considering his cost. Certainly upgrading from Murton would be great, if feasable.

 

I don't think anyone thinks RBI's are insignificant. I think many would argue that it's just a very poor way to judge a player becuase it's so dependant on the people hitting in front of the player in question. See Derrek Lee in 2005.

[Peoriaman]

Thanks for the numbers, CCP. I wonder if that trend will continue for Murton, or if it's more of a fluke.

 

thanks Colt. Those results are more dramatic than even I imagined. He needs to pick it up if he wants to be a starting corner outfielder. That is the reality.

 

As for the earlier question, I always value high RBI guys over low RBI guys, especially for corner outfielders.

 

Again, I know moneyball guys think RBI's are insignificant, but I beg to disagree. I also realize that the moneyball guys will never come over to that way of thinking. So it goes....

 

Couple of things. I think it's obvious that Murton is more of a top of the order hitting with OBP being his biggest strength. He's fine for a corner OF if they are getting production elsewhere considering his cost. Certainly upgrading from Murton would be great, if feasable.

 

I don't think anyone thinks RBI's are insignificant. I think many would argue that it's just a very poor way to judge a player becuase it's so dependant on the people hitting in front of the player in question. See Derrek Lee in 2005.

 

 

well said. I think the ability to hit well with RISP (especially late in the game) is a very good indicator. I understand that RBI's are influenced by runners being on base, but the guys that get 100 rbi's a year are ok in my book. I don't think that is entirely luck or just circumstances. :)

 

 

I would also agree that #2 or #8 are probably his best spots.At this point, I don't want him regularly up with men in scoring position.