According to the Score

[Magnetic Curses]

i stumbled onto another cubs site and they were talking about us again.

 

vera funny.

 

ooh, did they say anything about me?

 

i couldn't tell, they were too busy laughing at their own unfunny jokes.

 

ah well, that's just what happens when you can't keep from having a public hippie freak-out on this board. they have to go somewhere right? i mean, they aren't just deleted from human history once tim hits that little red button and nukes their entire reason for living, are they?

 

my theory is that they become some sort of slow, unscary romero-esque zombies with a semblance of former personality, obsessed and yet deathly afraid of fireworks.

 

it'd be sweet if there really was like a big red button that Tim pushes to ban someone for life.

 

hey, everyone wave, they're looking right now! :wave: :wave:

[Sammy Sofa]

Well, I guess I don't understand what you meant by "Tejada just did" then. And Dunn is certainly some kind of superstar player. If I am a team, like the Sox, that is just playing out the schedule this year, but plans to be good next year, then I am claiming Dunn - gentleman's agreement or not.

 

We wouldn't have to worry about the Sox. But the Nationals, the Dodgers, the Cardinals... yeah there are teams who would claim him before we had a shot. I don't see how our chances of Dunn are any better than hoping for the one card suckout. It's just very unlikely...

 

I really like Dunn, but I guess I'm just not rating him as highly as others here. If the Reds and Cubs have an informal/formal agreement that's pretty clearly solid, I don't see other teams diving on Dunn. I could easily be wrong.

 

For the most part, this is a different scenario than the "gentleman's agreement." If we were trying to pass someone we had no intention of trading through waivers to option him, or it's a trade for a rather minor playoff-push role player with a deal in place, yeah - you don't often have a GM putting in a claim merely to hassle. But this is a player the teams would legitimately want and he would legitimately help any club he goes to. Plus, we don't have the means to offer the Reds the best package -- that doesn't mean the "best package" is what the Reds would want but it's more stacked out of our favor. If the Dodgers or Nationals or someone were to want Dunn (and they do), they would have every motive to claim him and probably believe they could top an offer from the Cubs anyway. Of course, I could be wrong too...

 

Thanks for clearing that up! I was fuzzy on a lot of the waivers process, as you can see.

[Tracer Bullet]

Since Dunn likely wouldn't pass waivers, I think the best option of all of them would be Craig Monroe.

 

b/c of his splits against LHP?

 

I mean, Craig Monroe is terrible generally. .639 OPS for the year, .568 in July and .423 so far in August. I'd rather have Thames, who also crushes LHP but isn't as bad as Monroe overall.

[Derwood]

wait one more day and we won't have to worry about the Dodgers (as we'll be behind them in the WS standings)

[Cynosure]

Cubs Considering Outfielders

Multiple readers have emailed me about a radio report on WSCR 670 The Score out of Chicago today. According to the report, the Cubs are considering multiple trade possibilities to fill the monthlog gap left by Alfonso Soriano's quad injury. On the radar: Craig Monroe, Matt Stairs, Jeff Conine, and Adam Dunn. Additionally, Cubs GM Jim Hendry came out and said today that he's working the phones to find some help.

 

Contract situations of each player:

 

Monroe - $1.5MM left in '07, should earn $5MM+ in '08 before reaching free agency

Stairs - $267K left in '07, free agent after season

Conine - $630K left in '07, free agent after season

Dunn - $3.3MM left in '07, free agent after season if traded

 

Monroe is the right-handed Jacque Jones, contract situation and all. He'd be a poor and mildly expensive addition. He'd probably clear waivers.

 

Stairs is doing what he does best, mashing righties. He's having his best season since 2003. He's not earning much and has no '08 commitment. He played for the Cubs in '01 and did a decent job. The problem? He might be claimed off waivers before he gets to the Cubs. Jim Hendry really should've made this deal in July. Every AL team will have a crack at him first on waivers. Plus the Jays might fancy themselves contenders at six games out of the wild card.

 

Conine is on the last leg of his career and doesn't really offer anything Matt Murton doesn't. I don't really see the point but this pickup seems most likely.

 

Dunn is the most intriguing and also by far the least likely option here. The Cubs would have to give up some good players and pay out a decent chunk of salary for less than two months of Dunn. They'd also have to do something ugly like put him in right field when Soriano comes back. I don't see this happening.

 

Nothing new, but some pretty miserable options. None of these players are worth trading for unless you're looking for bench help.

 

The only ones out of that group of people I would want would be Dunn and Stairs. Dunnis not a very likely option, so STAIRS it is.

[Electron Blue]

Cubs Considering Outfielders

Multiple readers have emailed me about a radio report on WSCR 670 The Score out of Chicago today. According to the report, the Cubs are considering multiple trade possibilities to fill the monthlog gap left by Alfonso Soriano's quad injury. On the radar: Craig Monroe, Matt Stairs, Jeff Conine, and Adam Dunn. Additionally, Cubs GM Jim Hendry came out and said today that he's working the phones to find some help.

 

Contract situations of each player:

 

Monroe - $1.5MM left in '07, should earn $5MM+ in '08 before reaching free agency

Stairs - $267K left in '07, free agent after season

Conine - $630K left in '07, free agent after season

Dunn - $3.3MM left in '07, free agent after season if traded

 

Monroe is the right-handed Jacque Jones, contract situation and all. He'd be a poor and mildly expensive addition. He'd probably clear waivers.

 

Stairs is doing what he does best, mashing righties. He's having his best season since 2003. He's not earning much and has no '08 commitment. He played for the Cubs in '01 and did a decent job. The problem? He might be claimed off waivers before he gets to the Cubs. Jim Hendry really should've made this deal in July. Every AL team will have a crack at him first on waivers. Plus the Jays might fancy themselves contenders at six games out of the wild card.

 

Conine is on the last leg of his career and doesn't really offer anything Matt Murton doesn't. I don't really see the point but this pickup seems most likely.

 

Dunn is the most intriguing and also by far the least likely option here. The Cubs would have to give up some good players and pay out a decent chunk of salary for less than two months of Dunn. They'd also have to do something ugly like put him in right field when Soriano comes back. I don't see this happening.

 

Nothing new, but some pretty miserable options. None of these players are worth trading for unless you're looking for bench help.

 

The only ones out of that group of people I would want would be Dunn and Stairs. Dunnis not a very likely option, so STAIRS it is.

 

I can't see how Stairs would make it all the way through the AL to us, in the waivers process. I'd like him quite a bit, too, I just can't imagine it.

[wolf stansson]

Man I wish I was clever enough to make jokes about people's sexuality on the Internet. If I was that clever, I'd totally do some of that right now. Then I'd be cool enough to get banned here, so I could go post at a terrible message board about how terrible I think this message board is.

[imb]

Man I wish I was clever enough to make jokes about people's sexuality on the Internet. If I was that clever, I'd totally do some of that right now. Then I'd be cool enough to get banned here, so I could go post at a terrible message board about how terrible I think this message board is.

 

too bad you aren't, gaylord.

[Electron Blue]

Man I wish I was clever enough to make jokes about people's sexuality on the Internet. If I was that clever, I'd totally do some of that right now. Then I'd be cool enough to get banned here, so I could go post at a terrible message board about how terrible I think this message board is.

 

too bad you aren't, gaylord.

 

:D

[wolf stansson]

Man I wish I was clever enough to make jokes about people's sexuality on the Internet. If I was that clever, I'd totally do some of that right now. Then I'd be cool enough to get banned here, so I could go post at a terrible message board about how terrible I think this message board is.

 

too bad you aren't, gaylord.

Where do you come up with this stuff? It's so funny! I couldn't do that to save my life.

[Derwood]

Man I wish I was clever enough to make jokes about people's sexuality on the Internet. If I was that clever, I'd totally do some of that right now. Then I'd be cool enough to get banned here, so I could go post at a terrible message board about how terrible I think this message board is.

 

too bad you aren't, gaylord.

Where do you come up with this stuff? It's so funny! I couldn't do that to save my life.

 

wow, i missed something here

[wolf stansson]

wow, i missed something here

desipio likes to make fun of NSBB because their membership is made up of people who have been banned here. They also seem to have limited imaginations pertaining to how they make fun of us. Lots of gay jokes and what not.

[Derwood]

wow, i missed something here

desipio likes to make fun of NSBB because their membership is made up of people who have been banned here. They also seem to have limited imaginations pertaining to how they make fun of us. Lots of gay jokes and what not.

 

ah, i somehow read that exchange as you getting into it with IMB! Hence, my confusion

 

...off to desipio to make fun of losers....

[Derwood]

wow, i missed something here

desipio likes to make fun of NSBB because their membership is made up of people who have been banned here. They also seem to have limited imaginations pertaining to how they make fun of us. Lots of gay jokes and what not.

 

ah, i somehow read that exchange as you getting into it with IMB! Hence, my confusion

 

...off to desipio to make fun of losers....

 

...and this is what I learned:

 

You shouldn't be nice here. Desipioland is like prison. Except with more butt***.

 

You have to verbally shiv people, or the next thing you know, you're Slaky's **** and he's renting your man******* to **** for a roll of mentos.

 

I'm learning all sorts of thing about baseball there!