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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

okay buddy...whatever you say.

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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

I think I'd hold off on saying that until Marshall has the last 3-4 years Z has had. Because otherwise thats complete crap.

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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

I think I'd hold off on saying that until Marshall has the last 3-4 years Z has had. Because otherwise thats complete crap.

Zambran couldn't hit the side of a red barn and his stats prove it, he led the league in walks

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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

Marshall has been in the majors for about a year-4/5 of a season last year, and 1/5 of a season this year. Only the 1/5 of the season this year has been good-I'm not sure how you can call him consistent yet.

 

Z is the only pitcher in the major leagues to be in the top 15 of ERA every year for the last 4-how much more consistent can you get than that? With the way he's pitching lately, he could make it 5 in a row.

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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

I think I'd hold off on saying that until Marshall has the last 3-4 years Z has had. Because otherwise thats complete crap.

Zambran couldn't hit the side of a red barn and his stats prove it, he led the league in walks

 

You're my new favorite poster.

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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

Marshall has been in the majors for about a year-4/5 of a season last year, and 1/5 of a season this year. Only the 1/5 of the season this year has been good-I'm not sure how you can call him consistent yet.

 

Z is the only pitcher in the major leagues to be in the top 15 of ERA every year for the last 4-how much more consistent can you get than that? With the way he's pitching lately, he could make it 5 in a row.

i didn't say marshall was consistent i said he's more consistent than z
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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

Marshall has been in the majors for about a year-4/5 of a season last year, and 1/5 of a season this year. Only the 1/5 of the season this year has been good-I'm not sure how you can call him consistent yet.

 

Z is the only pitcher in the major leagues to be in the top 15 of ERA every year for the last 4-how much more consistent can you get than that? With the way he's pitching lately, he could make it 5 in a row.

i didn't say marshall was consistent i said he's more consistent than z

 

I'd really like to see these stats you're basing this off of.

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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

Marshall has been in the majors for about a year-4/5 of a season last year, and 1/5 of a season this year. Only the 1/5 of the season this year has been good-I'm not sure how you can call him consistent yet.

 

Z is the only pitcher in the major leagues to be in the top 15 of ERA every year for the last 4-how much more consistent can you get than that? With the way he's pitching lately, he could make it 5 in a row.

i didn't say marshall was consistent i said he's more consistent than z

 

And like I said, Z has been one of the most consistent pitchers in the major leagues the last 4 years. He gives you almost the same production every single year.

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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

Marshall has been in the majors for about a year-4/5 of a season last year, and 1/5 of a season this year. Only the 1/5 of the season this year has been good-I'm not sure how you can call him consistent yet.

 

Z is the only pitcher in the major leagues to be in the top 15 of ERA every year for the last 4-how much more consistent can you get than that? With the way he's pitching lately, he could make it 5 in a row.

i didn't say marshall was consistent i said he's more consistent than z

 

And like I said, Z has been one of the most consistent pitchers in the major leagues the last 4 years. He gives you almost the same production every single year.

except this one i suppose

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Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

Marshall has been in the majors for about a year-4/5 of a season last year, and 1/5 of a season this year. Only the 1/5 of the season this year has been good-I'm not sure how you can call him consistent yet.

 

Z is the only pitcher in the major leagues to be in the top 15 of ERA every year for the last 4-how much more consistent can you get than that? With the way he's pitching lately, he could make it 5 in a row.

i didn't say marshall was consistent i said he's more consistent than z

 

And like I said, Z has been one of the most consistent pitchers in the major leagues the last 4 years. He gives you almost the same production every single year.

except this one i suppose

 

This year is only half over, and the way Z is pitching it seems likely that it will end up being a very similar year to his previous 4.

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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

Marshall has been in the majors for about a year-4/5 of a season last year, and 1/5 of a season this year. Only the 1/5 of the season this year has been good-I'm not sure how you can call him consistent yet.

 

Z is the only pitcher in the major leagues to be in the top 15 of ERA every year for the last 4-how much more consistent can you get than that? With the way he's pitching lately, he could make it 5 in a row.

i didn't say marshall was consistent i said he's more consistent than z

 

And like I said, Z has been one of the most consistent pitchers in the major leagues the last 4 years. He gives you almost the same production every single year.

except this one i suppose

 

Well yea, if you looked at, I dunno, the stats you might find that.

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Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

Marshall has been in the majors for about a year-4/5 of a season last year, and 1/5 of a season this year. Only the 1/5 of the season this year has been good-I'm not sure how you can call him consistent yet.

 

Z is the only pitcher in the major leagues to be in the top 15 of ERA every year for the last 4-how much more consistent can you get than that? With the way he's pitching lately, he could make it 5 in a row.

i didn't say marshall was consistent i said he's more consistent than z

 

And like I said, Z has been one of the most consistent pitchers in the major leagues the last 4 years. He gives you almost the same production every single year.

except this one i suppose

 

This year is only half over, and the way Z is pitching it seems likely that it will end up being a very similar year to his previous 4.

Just thought I would continue this quote.

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So, who is stepping up to punch Zambrano? That's gonna take someone really gritty - maybe we can get Eckstein to do the job.
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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

Marshall has been in the majors for about a year-4/5 of a season last year, and 1/5 of a season this year. Only the 1/5 of the season this year has been good-I'm not sure how you can call him consistent yet.

 

Z is the only pitcher in the major leagues to be in the top 15 of ERA every year for the last 4-how much more consistent can you get than that? With the way he's pitching lately, he could make it 5 in a row.

i didn't say marshall was consistent i said he's more consistent than z

 

And like I said, Z has been one of the most consistent pitchers in the major leagues the last 4 years. He gives you almost the same production every single year.

except this one i suppose

 

So you're judging consistency based on 2 months this season from Marshall?

 

You can say Marshall has been more consistant this season. You can say he's been better this season. You can't say he's had a better career than Z. Or that he's been more consistant in his career. And you definitely can't say he's better skill-wise than Z...very few pitchers in all of baseball have Z's raw stuff.

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I'm saving my vote for Hanley Ramirez.

 

What a joke that Hanley didn't make the team.

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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

Marshall has been in the majors for about a year-4/5 of a season last year, and 1/5 of a season this year. Only the 1/5 of the season this year has been good-I'm not sure how you can call him consistent yet.

 

Z is the only pitcher in the major leagues to be in the top 15 of ERA every year for the last 4-how much more consistent can you get than that? With the way he's pitching lately, he could make it 5 in a row.

i didn't say marshall was consistent i said he's more consistent than z

 

Is this shtick? You're embarrassing yourself here.

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WE WANT HILL OR MARSHALL, i know they're last starts weren't quality but hey come on, they deserve it over Z

 

Marshall does not deserve it over Z.

Marshall is better skill wise and stat wise

 

hah, you must be out of your mind...do you really think marshall has better skills than Z?

Marshall is way more consistent and and has way more control, something z seemingly can't buy

 

Marshall has been in the majors for about a year-4/5 of a season last year, and 1/5 of a season this year. Only the 1/5 of the season this year has been good-I'm not sure how you can call him consistent yet.

 

Z is the only pitcher in the major leagues to be in the top 15 of ERA every year for the last 4-how much more consistent can you get than that? With the way he's pitching lately, he could make it 5 in a row.

i didn't say marshall was consistent i said he's more consistent than z

 

And like I said, Z has been one of the most consistent pitchers in the major leagues the last 4 years. He gives you almost the same production every single year.

except this one i suppose

 

No, not except this one.

Z has had 1 bad month, 1 shaky month, and 1 month were he was one of the best pitchers in baseball. And since his best month was the most recent one, you would be led to believe hes figured it out, and will return to being a top 5 pitcher in baseball.

 

what are you smoking man, or are you just looking for an argument that you are clearly wrong on?

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How is consistency even a valid arguing point?

 

Players who are consistent:

 

Neifi Perez

Juan Pierre

David Eckstein

 

Just to name a few.

 

Now explain to me why 'consistency' is always a good thing and a reasonable way to judge a player's value.

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