Baylor a candidate for O's job?

[Schwarber Fan]

http://test.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_6228566

 

Chicago - Don Baylor wonders what it would have been like to manage the Rockies with a humidor. He wishes things had worked out differently with the Chicago Cubs. But more than anything, the only man to lead both teams wants another chance.

 

He might get one after emerging this week as a strong candidate for the Baltimore Orioles' managerial vacancy. Andy MacPhail, who oversaw Baylor's hiring in Chicago, is leading the search as Baltimore's new president. Joe Girardi turned down the job, leaving Dusty Baker, Davey Johnson, Rick Dempsey and Baylor as possible successors to Sam Perlozzo.

[TruffleShuffle]

I hope whoever is hitting behind Brian Roberts knows how to bunt

[Prior4CyYoung]

got to love making the same mistake over again.

[sweetpeteman]

Kornheiser's reasons why Baylor would be a good pick:

 

 

1. He came up with the O's.

 

2. He has history with MacPhail.

 

 

 

 

 

Great reasons, Tony. Now you might want to find actual ones.

[Amazing_Grace]

got to love making the same mistake over again.

 

If they hire Baylor, it is going to be sooooo much fun ragging on my brother, the O's fan, about it. I already had a chuckle at his expense this past weekend over MacPhail.

[Amazing_Grace]

Kornheiser's reasons why Baylor would be a good pick:

 

 

1. He came up with the O's.

 

2. He has history with MacPhail.

 

 

 

 

 

Great reasons, Tony. Now you might want to find actual ones.

 

You assume that these supposed "actual reasons to hire Don Baylor" actually exist.

[jjgman21]

Baylor blew, but he was the most competent handler of a bullpen of any Cubs manager in a long time.

 

not that that is saying much.

[shnsajax]

Man pretty soon it will be time to Contract the O's. I wonder if they will trade us Markakis since he is not a vet if Baylor gets the job.

[NewUserName]

http://test.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_6228566

 

Chicago - Don Baylor wonders what it would have been like to manage the Rockies with a humidor. He wishes things had worked out differently with the Chicago Cubs. But more than anything, the only man to lead both teams wants another chance.

 

He might get one after emerging this week as a strong candidate for the Baltimore Orioles' managerial vacancy. Andy MacPhail, who oversaw Baylor's hiring in Chicago, is leading the search as Baltimore's new president. Joe Girardi turned down the job, leaving Dusty Baker, Davey Johnson, Rick Dempsey and Baylor as possible successors to Sam Perlozzo.

 

 

if this is the list of candidates. It will become real easy to show the world how bad MacPhail is. Davey Johnson is available and he is even considering the other guys.

[J.R.]

Andy is considerably dumber than he ever appeared to be if he's even remotely considering hiring Baker. Hasn't he seen enough?

[NCCubFan]

Andy is considerably dumber than he ever appeared to be if he's even remotely considering hiring Baker. Hasn't he seen enough?

The same comment could apply to Baylor.

[sunnydoo]

Baylor and CP together again. a ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Soriano12]

Why is MacPhail invovling himself with baseball decisions? Seriously, just hire a GM(Not Ed Lynch, btw. Just call up Billy Beane and have him send a whiz kid over) and get out of the way. Andy, you suck at baseball operations. Give up. Edited June 27, 2007 by Soriano12

[RedIvyCub]

Baylor and CP together again. a ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

And Corey is probably screaming NOOOOOOO! Don didn't seem to get along too well with Corey.

 

Will keep the other comments on this topic to myself though.

[Amazing_Grace]

Baylor and CP together again. a ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

And Corey is probably screaming NOOOOOOO! Don didn't seem to get along too well with Corey.

 

Will keep the other comments on this topic to myself though.

 

Baylor: He's a good kid, but he's got so much speed, he's gotta learn how to bunt and hit grounders.

[SouthSideRyan]

I seem to remember hearing MacPhail say Dusty wasn't a fit for this Orioles team. I think the list of candidates is pure speculation.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

does Don Baylor ever wonder how much better he would have been had he not been terrible at his job?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Baylor and CP together again. a ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

And Corey is probably screaming NOOOOOOO! Don didn't seem to get along too well with Corey.

 

Will keep the other comments on this topic to myself though.

 

Something about Oddibie McDowell....

[RedIvyCub]

Why is MacPhail invovling himself with baseball decisions? Seriously, just hire a GM(Not Ed Lynch, btw. Just call up Billy Beane and have him send a whiz kid over) and get out of the way. Andy, you suck at baseball operations. Give up.

 

Let's see...maybe because his title is President, Baseball Operations of the Baltimore Orioles???? :-k

[RedIvyCub]

Baylor and CP together again. a ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

And Corey is probably screaming NOOOOOOO! Don didn't seem to get along too well with Corey.

 

Will keep the other comments on this topic to myself though.

 

Something about Oddibie McDowell....

 

Yeah, that's it... :-#

[dalgreen]

I think some of you are being way too hard on Baylor. Was he a great manager? No. But how do we know how good he is when with the Cubs he had crap teams? Sosa and Grace offensively is pretty much all we had. The 2001 team was a surprise and could've won the division had Wood and Farnsworth had not gotten hurt late in the season. Think about what Lynch and MacPhail gave him and I don't know any manager who could've done well.

[Soriano12]

Why is MacPhail invovling himself with baseball decisions? Seriously, just hire a GM(Not Ed Lynch, btw. Just call up Billy Beane and have him send a whiz kid over) and get out of the way. Andy, you suck at baseball operations. Give up.

 

Let's see...maybe because his title is President, Baseball Operations of the Baltimore Orioles???? :-k

 

And, usually Team Presidents, hire a GM that will have control over day to day baseball transactions. Hence my questioning/suggestion that MacPhail hire a GM, considering his GM skills, are, how should I say this...pitful?

[Amazing_Grace]

I think some of you are being way too hard on Baylor. Was he a great manager? No. But how do we know how good he is when with the Cubs he had crap teams? Sosa and Grace offensively is pretty much all we had. The 2001 team was a surprise and could've won the division had Wood and Farnsworth had not gotten hurt late in the season. Think about what Lynch and MacPhail gave him and I don't know any manager who could've done well.

 

When you think of Don Baylor, I want you to remember these two words

 

Augie... Ojeda....

 

The Cubs have been pretty consistently bad over the whole of MacPhail's tenure though, so there's obviously been more going wrong than just having bad managers. Baylor had as much of a traditional approach as Dusty did, and they both had a strange affinity for bad ballplayers and washed-up vets. Baylor may have contributed to Patterson's failures. Dusty probably wasn't good for Cedeno. Neither one really valued stats or understood that the most valuable skill in baseball is 'not making outs'. They were both awful managers. I'll give you that Baylor was never given the kind of talent that Baker was, but he was still a bad manager. That's what most of baseball seems to think anyway, as he hasn't been a manager since leaving the Cubs.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

I think some of you are being way too hard on Baylor. Was he a great manager? No. But how do we know how good he is when with the Cubs he had crap teams? Sosa and Grace offensively is pretty much all we had. The 2001 team was a surprise and could've won the division had Wood and Farnsworth had not gotten hurt late in the season. Think about what Lynch and MacPhail gave him and I don't know any manager who could've done well.

 

When you think of Don Baylor, I want you to remember these two words

 

Augie... Ojeda....

 

The Cubs have been pretty consistently bad over the whole of MacPhail's tenure though, so there's obviously been more going wrong than just having bad managers. Baylor had as much of a traditional approach as Dusty did, and they both had a strange affinity for bad ballplayers and washed-up vets. Baylor may have contributed to Patterson's failures. Dusty probably wasn't good for Cedeno. Neither one really valued stats or understood that the most valuable skill in baseball is 'not making outs'. They were both awful managers. I'll give you that Baylor was never given the kind of talent that Baker was, but he was still a bad manager. That's what most of baseball seems to think anyway, as he hasn't been a manager since leaving the Cubs.

 

Not disagreeing with you, but didn't he have to step away due to cancer?

[Amazing_Grace]

I think some of you are being way too hard on Baylor. Was he a great manager? No. But how do we know how good he is when with the Cubs he had crap teams? Sosa and Grace offensively is pretty much all we had. The 2001 team was a surprise and could've won the division had Wood and Farnsworth had not gotten hurt late in the season. Think about what Lynch and MacPhail gave him and I don't know any manager who could've done well.

 

When you think of Don Baylor, I want you to remember these two words

 

Augie... Ojeda....

 

The Cubs have been pretty consistently bad over the whole of MacPhail's tenure though, so there's obviously been more going wrong than just having bad managers. Baylor had as much of a traditional approach as Dusty did, and they both had a strange affinity for bad ballplayers and washed-up vets. Baylor may have contributed to Patterson's failures. Dusty probably wasn't good for Cedeno. Neither one really valued stats or understood that the most valuable skill in baseball is 'not making outs'. They were both awful managers. I'll give you that Baylor was never given the kind of talent that Baker was, but he was still a bad manager. That's what most of baseball seems to think anyway, as he hasn't been a manager since leaving the Cubs.

 

Not disagreeing with you, but didn't he have to step away due to cancer?

 

I think so, but I can't recall when that was? It wasn't when he was with the Cubs and he was in baseball as a coach through mid-2005 according to Wikipedia. I don't know if he left because of cancer or not. Either way, he was in baseball 3 years after leaving the Cubs without ever getting offered, or even considered as far as I know, for another managing job, so my original point about that stands. If he's being considered for the O's job, he must be over his cancer.