Yanks may void Giambi's deal

[jersey cubs fan]

But, regarding the voiding of his contract, they either can or cannot void the contract based on his steroid use. Since he already admitted to it -- in front of a grand jury, no less -- they don't need the extra ammo. The admission has been made. If the Yankees can void the contract, they don't need a second admission -- the first one would work. I don't understand why that's so confusing.

 

As davearm noted, the grand jury testimony is almost certainly inadmissable. They need to bust him outside the realm of the grand jury testimony. They need a positive test or admission of guilt. That is why this most recent semi-apology/admission provides them with more ammo (although my guess would be not enough).

[Exile on Waveland]

But, regarding the voiding of his contract, they either can or cannot void the contract based on his steroid use. Since he already admitted to it -- in front of a grand jury, no less -- they don't need the extra ammo. The admission has been made. If the Yankees can void the contract, they don't need a second admission -- the first one would work. I don't understand why that's so confusing.

 

As davearm noted, the grand jury testimony is almost certainly inadmissable. They need to bust him outside the realm of the grand jury testimony. They need a positive test or admission of guilt. That is why this most recent semi-apology/admission provides them with more ammo (although my guess would be not enough).

 

Still, he's made comments like this before. Nothing concrete, nothing totally incriminating, but generic, nonspecific apologies. Everyone knows what he was talking about, but he didn't say it outright. I don't think much has changed (though maybe this apology was worse, as he did at one point use the word "steroids"), except one additional vague statement. Color me way underwhelmed on the Yankees chances of voiding the deal, short of the grand jury testimony.

[Illini Iceman]

Giambi used steroids!?!??!?!?! No way!

 

I really don't understand this. The Yankees were rumored to be interested in voiding his deal previously. Everyone knows he used steroids, why now? Why again?

 

PS I understand why they'd want out of the end of his deal.

 

Why now? Why again? Because Giambi was quoted recently (USA Today?) once again apologizing for using "that stuff", and saying "we" should have been more honest. He gave them ammo to once again look to getting out of his contract.

 

He gave them more ammo? That ammo had already been given with his grand jury testimony in 2003. I don't see how he gave them more ammo, he just game them the same ammo again. He (sort of) admitted to using steroids for the second time.

 

 

Which gives them ammo to revisit the notion of getting out of his contract. Had he not said anything, they wouldn't be leaking this story. It's not that confusing.

 

I understand why the Yankees would want to get out of his contract, and I understand that the Yankees would want anything Giambi says regarding the situation to be ammo.

 

But, regarding the voiding of his contract, they either can or cannot void the contract based on his steroid use. Since he already admitted to it -- in front of a grand jury, no less -- they don't need the extra ammo. The admission has been made. If the Yankees can void the contract, they don't need a second admission -- the first one would work. I don't understand why that's so confusing.

Good luck building a case around sealed grand jury testimony (leaked or otherwise) that MLB has no rights to see, let alone act upon.

 

Obviously the Yanks and/or MLB weighed their options the first time around. Now by shooting off his mouth again, Giambi has given them reason to revisit those options.

 

In the end they may still not have enough to punish him on. But thanks to Giambi himself, they have more now than they did a week ago.

 

McGuire is dishonest scumbag that shouldn't go into the hall of fame because he dodged questions about steroid use and if he had just came clean everyone would respect him so much more.

Giambi is a moron shooting off his mouth and should get his contract voided because he has been relatively honest and come clean about his steroid use.

Seems to me there is no way to win in public perception. Everyone wants honesty until you give it to them and then they want to string you up.

[davearm]

Good luck building a case around sealed grand jury testimony (leaked or otherwise) that MLB has no rights to see, let alone act upon.

 

Obviously the Yanks and/or MLB weighed their options the first time around. Now by shooting off his mouth again, Giambi has given them reason to revisit those options.

 

In the end they may still not have enough to punish him on. But thanks to Giambi himself, they have more now than they did a week ago.

 

McGuire is dishonest scumbag that shouldn't go into the hall of fame because he dodged questions about steroid use and if he had just came clean everyone would respect him so much more.

Giambi is a moron shooting off his mouth and should get his contract voided because he has been relatively honest and come clean about his steroid use.

Seems to me there is no way to win in public perception. Everyone wants honesty until you give it to them and then they want to string you up.

I couldn't care less whether or not Giambi gets his contract voided.

 

FWIW, I do think that by displaying some honesty that he's occupying a higher moral ground than any of the other usual suspects, and on a certain level I find that admirable.

 

But despite that, I wouldn't be saddened to see him lose his job over the choices he's man enough to admit to.

 

Above all, I certainly don't fault the team who signed up to pay him $120M under false pretenses to want out of the deal.

 

And regarding public perception, I'd say that the no-win situation you alluded to is a direct result of these guys' own decision to use PEDs. Whatever consequences these guys are facing are of their own making.