Roster

[papabear58]

Why is it that many people here seem upset at the roster? It almost seems like people here want different players and are genuinly upset about our roster.

 

I don't understand this mentality of, "You're a ballplayer, you get paid millions of dollars to do your job, I don't give a crap about what you think, go out and hit the ball."

 

I'm no bleeding heart, but I can't believe that this is an effective way to run a ballclub. It's not the 1930's anymore and as much as we believe that should be the way it works, I don't think it is anymore. Many players today have more excuses then anything, and many feel that they are owed something. Is it right, no, is it true, yes. We do have to play and deal with it.

 

If there is a mental block we need to sit a player or coach him to help him get past it. The fact is that you just can't go cutting players and finding new ones throughout the season. Say what you want about who the Cubs brought in this season, we need to make the most of what we have and I don't think the roster is that bad.

 

It just seems like people are ready to fire a number of people on this team (Jones, Miller, Marquis, ect.), or shove them out of their position to the bench/pen because of a poor start. I guess I'm just shocked to see this kind of.... almost seeming anger at a not so uncommon start to an MLB season. It's only 8 games in, that means there are 154 games left to play. We aren't going to win them all, and in fact some of them will most likely be bad games that we get blown out of. Patience and rational calmness should be the order for the time being.

[jersey cubs fan]

Why is it that many people here seem upset at the roster? It almost seems like people here want different players and are genuinly upset about our roster.

 

You don't understand why some people aren't satisfied with the makeup of the roster?

 

First off, you know it's flawed if Jim Hendry put it together. People want the Cubs to be the best team in baseball and win the world series. Their roster as it stands probably has them no better than a little above average, if all works out. What is there to understand?

[rynefan]

I don't have an issue with the roster, but I do have an issue of what seems to be team chemistry and fire (desire to kick some butt and take some names).

[papabear58]

Why is it that many people here seem upset at the roster? It almost seems like people here want different players and are genuinly upset about our roster.

 

You don't understand why some people aren't satisfied with the makeup of the roster?

 

First off, you know it's flawed if Jim Hendry put it together. People want the Cubs to be the best team in baseball and win the world series. Their roster as it stands probably has them no better than a little above average, if all works out. What is there to understand?

 

Why people are freaking out. Slows starts happen in baseball. It's part of the game. If this were two or three months in then it would be time to push the panic button with this winning percentage, but we could just as easily go on a five game tear at this point with an offensive explosion and be 8-5 and then things are looking up. It's just too damn early.

[rocket]

then in 2-3 months when we're still under .500 people will yell at us for panicking, and will bring up the marlins and the astros.

[RynoRules]

Why is it that many people here seem upset at the roster? It almost seems like people here want different players and are genuinly upset about our roster.

 

You don't understand why some people aren't satisfied with the makeup of the roster?

 

First off, you know it's flawed if Jim Hendry put it together. People want the Cubs to be the best team in baseball and win the world series. Their roster as it stands probably has them no better than a little above average, if all works out. What is there to understand?

 

That's a meaningless, hyperbolic statement.

[papabear58]

then in 2-3 months when we're still under .500 people will yell at us for panicking, and will bring up the marlins and the astros.

 

So what, were just going to bash the team until they start winning? I'd like to look at more positive things I guess.

[jersey cubs fan]

Why is it that many people here seem upset at the roster? It almost seems like people here want different players and are genuinly upset about our roster.

 

You don't understand why some people aren't satisfied with the makeup of the roster?

 

First off, you know it's flawed if Jim Hendry put it together. People want the Cubs to be the best team in baseball and win the world series. Their roster as it stands probably has them no better than a little above average, if all works out. What is there to understand?

 

That's a meaningless, hyperbolic statement.

 

I disagree, but to each his own.

[RynoRules]

then in 2-3 months when we're still under .500 people will yell at us for panicking, and will bring up the marlins and the astros.

 

Who's "us"?

[rocket]

then in 2-3 months when we're still under .500 people will yell at us for panicking, and will bring up the marlins and the astros.

 

So what, were just going to bash the team until they start winning? I'd like to look at more positive things I guess.

 

YES. this is a message board, people are going to react in an extreme way.

[rocket]

then in 2-3 months when we're still under .500 people will yell at us for panicking, and will bring up the marlins and the astros.

 

Who's "us"?

 

just me and goony

[RynoRules]

then in 2-3 months when we're still under .500 people will yell at us for panicking, and will bring up the marlins and the astros.

 

So what, were just going to bash the team until they start winning? I'd like to look at more positive things I guess.

 

YES. this is a message board, people are going to react in an extreme way.

 

Cool avatar, BTW - where did you get it?

[papabear58]

then in 2-3 months when we're still under .500 people will yell at us for panicking, and will bring up the marlins and the astros.

 

So what, were just going to bash the team until they start winning? I'd like to look at more positive things I guess.

 

YES. this is a message board, people are going to react in an extreme way.

 

Phew, wow, I guess I'd better get used to it then.

[rocket]

then in 2-3 months when we're still under .500 people will yell at us for panicking, and will bring up the marlins and the astros.

 

So what, were just going to bash the team until they start winning? I'd like to look at more positive things I guess.

 

YES. this is a message board, people are going to react in an extreme way.

 

Phew, wow, I guess I'd better get used to it then.

 

people are going to react in an extreme way, but i think concerns about the offense and roster are legit. and when the cubs lose, people are more likely to point out the flaws.

[rocket]

then in 2-3 months when we're still under .500 people will yell at us for panicking, and will bring up the marlins and the astros.

 

So what, were just going to bash the team until they start winning? I'd like to look at more positive things I guess.

 

YES. this is a message board, people are going to react in an extreme way.

 

Cool avatar, BTW - where did you get it?

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HxQkEwKgEyc

[RynoRules]

then in 2-3 months when we're still under .500 people will yell at us for panicking, and will bring up the marlins and the astros.

 

So what, were just going to bash the team until they start winning? I'd like to look at more positive things I guess.

 

YES. this is a message board, people are going to react in an extreme way.

 

Phew, wow, I guess I'd better get used to it then.

 

people are going to react in an extreme way, but i think concerns about the offense and roster are legit. and when the cubs lose, people are more likely to point out the flaws.

 

True dat.

[jersey cubs fan]

Why people are freaking out. Slows starts happen in baseball. It's part of the game. If this were two or three months in then it would be time to push the panic button with this winning percentage, but we could just as easily go on a five game tear at this point with an offensive explosion and be 8-5 and then things are looking up. It's just too damn early.

 

These are the Chicago Cubs. They lost over 90 games last year. They are under .500 during the Hendry regime. They've got a terribly flawed organizational philosophy that has been exposed repeatedly, and they went on a wild, some would say negligent, spending spree this year that pretty much demands they be great now, or wait for a very long time to fix things.

 

If the Yankees get off to a slow start, you can brush it aside because you know they'll win 90+. If the Pirates get off to a slow start, you can be pretty positive that will continue. If the Cubs get off to a slow start, well, some people aren't going to feel all that well.

 

Personally I don't see many people freaking out. I haven't given up on the season. I think you are overreacting to people who are frustrated. There's nothing wrong with voicing frustration at a team that is playing the same way they played when they sucked last year. I'd suggest you stop worrying about how other people voice their frustration. If you feel confident, fine, state your reasons. But if somebody doesn't like what they see, that's perfectly justified.

[papabear58]

then in 2-3 months when we're still under .500 people will yell at us for panicking, and will bring up the marlins and the astros.

 

So what, were just going to bash the team until they start winning? I'd like to look at more positive things I guess.

 

YES. this is a message board, people are going to react in an extreme way.

 

Phew, wow, I guess I'd better get used to it then.

 

people are going to react in an extreme way, but i think concerns about the offense and roster are legit. and when the cubs lose, people are more likely to point out the flaws.

 

I guess it's been a long time since I've see so much extremism.

[rynefan]

Even some of the players don't belive things are going to turn around. After what, 8 games, I heard one of them (I was in the other room, so I don't know who said it, I just heard it) say, "I THINK we're going to be all right...." If you're saying something like that to the media, I can only wonder what is in their heads or being said privately in the clubhouse. So much of any sport is mental.

[Outshined_One]

Remember, Lee Elia's tirade came when the team was 5-14.

 

Little early in the season for that kind of behavior, eh?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I don't have an issue with the roster, but I do have an issue of what seems to be team chemistry and fire (desire to kick some butt and take some names).

 

Is this a joke?

[VanceJergins]

I don't have an issue with the roster, but I do have an issue of what seems to be team chemistry and fire (desire to kick some butt and take some names).

 

Is this a joke?

 

I'm hoping both of his posts are.

[RynoRules]

I don't have an issue with the roster, but I do have an issue of what seems to be team chemistry and fire (desire to kick some butt and take some names).

 

Is this a joke?

 

I'm hoping both of his posts are.

 

Geez, lay off the guy.

[Soul]

Even some of the players don't belive things are going to turn around. After what, 8 games, I heard one of them (I was in the other room, so I don't know who said it, I just heard it) say, "I THINK we're going to be all right...." If you're saying something like that to the media, I can only wonder what is in their heads or being said privately in the clubhouse. So much of any sport is mental.

 

Emphasis yours.

 

From the conclusion you draw, I'd say you're making quite a few assumptions about what's going on in the Cubs' clubhouse.

[E.J.]

We're coming up on 100 years of losing, and I think people are starting to get a little tired of it. I think people have a right to be concerned. This team isn't a sure thing to win anything, and I think most people think spending $300 million in the offseason should mean we've got a really good chance to win the World Series.

 

Most people (including writers and analysts) are guessing this team will win about 83-85 games this year. That's not what most people are looking for when we spent so much money this offseason. We're in a win-it-now mentality without a win-it-now team. And if they don't win now, we're going to be in trouble in a few years because so much money has been backloaded.