Cuban Speaks.....sort of

[Magnetic Curses]

i really don't want stone running the cubs. the chances of that happening are very probable, though.

 

we're finally going to be the major league team that relents and hires him. he'll run us right into the ground with his conventional ideas, the game will continue to pass him by and he'll be run out on a rail at some point--i just hope it's sooner than later.

[hitamprun]

While Reinsdorf may have some influence, Stone will have ZERO say in who will be the new owner. He may have an opinion, but when it comes down to it, Stone won't have any sway with how things fall. His ego may lead him to believe he will, but he won't.

 

Soul's question is a good one. I'm trying to remember the last time a potential owner was shot down. While there was some of that going on with the selection of the Nationals owner, that was a different circumstance since they were owned by MLB.

 

I don't think local owner means diddly squat. While it might sound nice and sentimental, to think that an owner won't care about the team if he isn't local is a bit foolish.

 

What happens a lot of times is a potential buying group will find out through the grapevine, you have little chance.

 

The Red Sox did not go to the highest bidder for this reason, and some may remember the former owner of the 49r's wanted to buy the Sox from Bill Veek before Reinsdorf, and he was shot down.

[Magnetic Curses]

''Everybody asks, 'Best-case scenario, what would you like to see happen?' Best-case scenario: I would like to see a very aggressive group of new owners who decide that they want to come in and bring some people who have some history with the Chicago Cubs and sit down in a room and actually listen to what they have to say. And maybe -- just maybe -- a few things they say will make some sense. And then you get to implement them.''

 

and what will "make some sense" steve? more bunting? more hustling? better situational hitting? clubhouse chemistry? team makeup?

 

these are hardly new and exciting ideas with relevance in today's game. move on.

 

i wonder how long it will take a management type to realize that the cubs don't get on base very well. it's always in the last place you look, right?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I've long grown weary of Steve Stone. According to Steve, everyone should genuflect in his direction.

 

I'm sure he and Selig discussed things. I'm sure Selig said some things and Stone said some things. I'm just not certain that what Stone says really has any effect on what Selig or the other owners do. During the vote, I don't think the other owners are going to say, "Hey...you know Cuban (or someone else) has the money, but Stone doesn't think they'd be the right owner." Stone may believe he has that pull, but I don't.

 

Reinsdorf, on the other hand, does. He's who worries me most.

 

And furthermore, what does Cuban having been a Pirates fan have to do with a damn thing. It's not like Cuban is going to buy the Cubs and then trade our best players to the Pirates because he doesn't really want the Cubs to win. Someone really ought to slap Stone for making such an asinine comment.

[RedIvyCub]

If Cuban posts the highest bid by far and doesn't get the team I would expect a serious backlash from the baseball community and talks of collusion against owners.

 

I guess you don't understand the business of baseball then. Just because all of you think Cuban is the solution and want him to buy to Cubs, it doesn't mean that MLB and the owners agree. He has no chance.

 

Do you have inside information?

 

If so please share. If not, your post is very presumptive.

 

First off, anyone with baseball knowledge knows it is common sense that Cuban would not be allowed to purchase the club with the way he behaves.

 

Second, yes I do have inside information for reason which I cannot reveal...like I like being employed.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

If Cuban posts the highest bid by far and doesn't get the team I would expect a serious backlash from the baseball community and talks of collusion against owners.

 

I guess you don't understand the business of baseball then. Just because all of you think Cuban is the solution and want him to buy to Cubs, it doesn't mean that MLB and the owners agree. He has no chance.

 

Do you have inside information?

 

If so please share. If not, your post is very presumptive.

 

First off, anyone with baseball knowledge knows it is common sense that Cuban would not be allowed to purchase the club with the way he behaves.

 

Second, yes I do have inside information for reason which I cannot reveal...like I like being employed.

 

Are you a spy for the government?

[RedIvyCub]

I'd like to see Cuban try, just so Reinsdorf would have to shoot him down, thus exposing Jerry for the screwball that he can *sometimes* be.

 

Cuban would be incredible for baseball. Anyone who wants to deny that needs to have a cold, hard look at the Mavs, and what their success and business model has done for Dallas and, indeed, the NBA as a whole.

 

Alright yeah, yeah -- he screams and yells alot. There's no reason civilized men couldn't come to some sort of arrangement, such as Mark agreeing to sit in a luxury suite during games, or agreeing beforehand to not comment on the refs. These aren't children, they're grown men who can come to an agreement on behavior.

 

it would be quite funny to see cuban jump the brick wall onto the field to yell at umps like he does in dallas.

 

You realize that would cost the club a fine every time he did that. Heck, the club was fined when McMichael made a fool of himself when he sang the seventh inning stretch and made remarks to the home plate umpire over the PA system.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

On that note, I'm hoping the new owner makes some changes in how that 7th inning stretch is done.

[VanceJergins]

If Cuban posts the highest bid by far and doesn't get the team I would expect a serious backlash from the baseball community and talks of collusion against owners.

 

I guess you don't understand the business of baseball then. Just because all of you think Cuban is the solution and want him to buy to Cubs, it doesn't mean that MLB and the owners agree. He has no chance.

 

Do you have inside information?

 

If so please share. If not, your post is very presumptive.

 

First off, anyone with baseball knowledge knows it is common sense that Cuban would not be allowed to purchase the club with the way he behaves.

 

Second, yes I do have inside information for reason which I cannot reveal...like I like being employed.

 

Are you a spy for the government?

 

I love how so many new posters have such amazing and mysterious sources of knowledge.

[RedIvyCub]

If Cuban posts the highest bid by far and doesn't get the team I would expect a serious backlash from the baseball community and talks of collusion against owners.

 

I guess you don't understand the business of baseball then. Just because all of you think Cuban is the solution and want him to buy to Cubs, it doesn't mean that MLB and the owners agree. He has no chance.

 

Do you have inside information?

 

If so please share. If not, your post is very presumptive.

 

First off, anyone with baseball knowledge knows it is common sense that Cuban would not be allowed to purchase the club with the way he behaves.

 

Second, yes I do have inside information for reason which I cannot reveal...like I like being employed.

 

Are you a spy for the government?

 

I love how so many new posters have such amazing and mysterious sources of knowledge.

 

Sorry...like having a job so I know it doesn't make me sound terribly credible. But there is someone who posts here that I could talk to and if he told you that I am credible without revealing how I have the knowledge that I do, you would believe him. That would be one Bruce Miles...will see if I can catch up with him so he will vouch for me.

[brinoch]

If Cuban posts the highest bid by far and doesn't get the team I would expect a serious backlash from the baseball community and talks of collusion against owners.

 

I guess you don't understand the business of baseball then. Just because all of you think Cuban is the solution and want him to buy to Cubs, it doesn't mean that MLB and the owners agree. He has no chance.

 

Do you have inside information?

 

If so please share. If not, your post is very presumptive.

 

First off, anyone with baseball knowledge knows it is common sense that Cuban would not be allowed to purchase the club with the way he behaves.

 

Second, yes I do have inside information for reason which I cannot reveal...like I like being employed.

 

Are you a spy for the government?

 

I love how so many new posters have such amazing and mysterious sources of knowledge.

 

RedIvyCub's been a member since late 2003. Just because a member doesn't post a lot doesn't mean they don't have insight, information, or sources. For example, in the pre-NSBB days, I was a long-time lurker on cubs.com and (sometimes) espn. I had somewhere around 250 posts total in several years.

[VanceJergins]

If Cuban posts the highest bid by far and doesn't get the team I would expect a serious backlash from the baseball community and talks of collusion against owners.

 

I guess you don't understand the business of baseball then. Just because all of you think Cuban is the solution and want him to buy to Cubs, it doesn't mean that MLB and the owners agree. He has no chance.

 

Do you have inside information?

 

If so please share. If not, your post is very presumptive.

 

First off, anyone with baseball knowledge knows it is common sense that Cuban would not be allowed to purchase the club with the way he behaves.

 

Second, yes I do have inside information for reason which I cannot reveal...like I like being employed.

 

Are you a spy for the government?

 

I love how so many new posters have such amazing and mysterious sources of knowledge.

 

RedIvyCub's been a member since late 2003. Just because a member doesn't post a lot doesn't mean they don't have insight, information, or sources. For example, in the pre-NSBB days, I was a long-time lurker on cubs.com and (sometimes) espn. I had somewhere around 250 posts total in several years.

 

I guess my comment was more a reaction to his condescending remarks such as, "anyone with baseball knowledge knows" and "I guess you don't understand the business of baseball then". Even if he has inside information, thats just annoying.

[BigbadB]

I was a long-time lurker on cubs.com

 

Oh how I long for the days when you were just a lurker. :D

[RedIvyCub]

If Cuban posts the highest bid by far and doesn't get the team I would expect a serious backlash from the baseball community and talks of collusion against owners.

 

I guess you don't understand the business of baseball then. Just because all of you think Cuban is the solution and want him to buy to Cubs, it doesn't mean that MLB and the owners agree. He has no chance.

 

Do you have inside information?

 

If so please share. If not, your post is very presumptive.

 

First off, anyone with baseball knowledge knows it is common sense that Cuban would not be allowed to purchase the club with the way he behaves.

 

Second, yes I do have inside information for reason which I cannot reveal...like I like being employed.

 

Are you a spy for the government?

 

I love how so many new posters have such amazing and mysterious sources of knowledge.

 

RedIvyCub's been a member since late 2003. Just because a member doesn't post a lot doesn't mean they don't have insight, information, or sources. For example, in the pre-NSBB days, I was a long-time lurker on cubs.com and (sometimes) espn. I had somewhere around 250 posts total in several years.

 

I guess my comment was more a reaction to his condescending remarks such as, "anyone with baseball knowledge knows" and "I guess you don't understand the business of baseball then". Even if he has inside information, thats just annoying.

 

Sorry, didn't mean to sound condescending in the least. Just trying to follow the vibe of this board.

 

And I am not a HE...I am a she.

 

I will have Bruce verify that I am not pulling anyone's leg sometime soon. I know you all trust him.

[Banedon]

I was a long-time lurker on cubs.com

 

Oh how I long for the days when you were just a lurker. :D

 

I was looking for just the right snarky comment to post about that....glad someone made one... :P

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If Cuban posts the highest bid by far and doesn't get the team I would expect a serious backlash from the baseball community and talks of collusion against owners.

 

I guess you don't understand the business of baseball then. Just because all of you think Cuban is the solution and want him to buy to Cubs, it doesn't mean that MLB and the owners agree. He has no chance.

 

Do you have inside information?

 

If so please share. If not, your post is very presumptive.

 

First off, anyone with baseball knowledge knows it is common sense that Cuban would not be allowed to purchase the club with the way he behaves.

 

Second, yes I do have inside information for reason which I cannot reveal...like I like being employed.

 

Are you a spy for the government?

 

I love how so many new posters have such amazing and mysterious sources of knowledge.

 

RedIvyCub's been a member since late 2003. Just because a member doesn't post a lot doesn't mean they don't have insight, information, or sources. For example, in the pre-NSBB days, I was a long-time lurker on cubs.com and (sometimes) espn. I had somewhere around 250 posts total in several years.

 

I guess my comment was more a reaction to his condescending remarks such as, "anyone with baseball knowledge knows" and "I guess you don't understand the business of baseball then". Even if he has inside information, thats just annoying.

 

Sorry, didn't mean to sound condescending in the least. Just trying to follow the vibe of this board.

 

And I am not a HE...I am a she.

 

I will have Bruce verify that I am not pulling anyone's leg sometime soon. I know you all trust him.

 

Carrie,

 

Is that you?

[brinoch]

I was a long-time lurker on cubs.com

 

Oh how I long for the days when you were just a lurker. :D

 

I was looking for just the right snarky comment to post about that....glad someone made one... :P

 

I almost made one myself. :D

[BigbadB]

Carrie,

 

Is that you?

 

Come on, Vance. That's not nice. This person obviously doesn't want to be revealed for valid reasons. While this message board is the be all end all of everything that is good in everyone's life :D , it's hardly worth risking her job over.

 

Let's leave it at that.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Carrie,

 

Is that you?

 

Come on, Vance. That's not nice. This person obviously doesn't want to be revealed for valid reasons. While this message board is the be all end all of everything that is good in everyone's life :D , it's hardly worth risking her job over.

 

Let's leave it at that.

 

sorry. :oops: I was just making a guess.

[Soul]

Just for the record, I realize Cuban would face big time problems. From what I've read here, pretty much everyone else does too.

 

So I'm not sure what new knowledge is being revealed by restating that.

 

Just because we realize it, doesn't mean we can't still discuss it (and complain about it).

[RedIvyCub]

Carrie,

 

Is that you?

 

Come on, Vance. That's not nice. This person obviously doesn't want to be revealed for valid reasons. While this message board is the be all end all of everything that is good in everyone's life :D , it's hardly worth risking her job over.

 

Let's leave it at that.

 

Thanks, BigBadB. Appreciated...