Prior and Miller throwing from mound with other P's

[UMFan83]

Posted this in the Kerry Wood injury thread, but it might be worth its own thread.

 

MESA, Ariz. -- The good news on the first day of workouts for Cubs pitchers and catchers Thursday was that Mark Prior and Wade Miller both threw off a mound. The bad news was that Kerry Wood was sidelined with an injury.

 

Wood bruised his right side when he fell out of a hot tub at his home Monday night. He'll be sidelined four to five days. His ego was hurt more than his rib cage.

 

"I'm just getting ready for Spring Training, feeling good," Wood said. "I [got out of the tub] and landed on my stomach and my chest and didn't feel too good. It's that time of year for me."

 

Wood, limited to four starts last season because of shoulder problems, had been throwing well the last two months leading up to the start of camp. This was not how he wanted to start Spring Training.

 

"I've got six weeks to get ready," he said. "I feel like I need 2 1/2 [weeks]. I was ready to go. I'd like to show people I'm ready instead of getting ice packs and people asking me questions. I am ready to go, I will be ready to go."

 

More about Prior and Miller:

 

Prior and Miller definitely looked healthy when they threw 30 pitches in the same group as Carlos Zambrano, Ted Lilly, Scott Eyre and Will Ohman. Both are coming off seasons in which they were hampered by injuries.

 

"They both threw the ball well, they really did," Piniella said of Prior and Miller. "It'd be like signing a couple more free agent pitchers [if they're ready]. These kids are good. Let's keep them throwing and keep them healthy and keep them working."

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070215&content_id=1803050&vkey=spt2007news&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc&partnered=rss_chc

[PrimeTime]

Just keep them away from hot tubs and playing guitar hero

[CubinNY]

Just keep them away from hot tubs and playing guitar hero

 

Or "chatting" with "friends" on line.

[A New Era]

This could be a really good pitching staff if one of those 2 is healthy and effective. I've said I think it will happen all along.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

:shock: :D

 

I got really giddy and happy when I read that, then I started hyperventilating thinking of a rotation of a completely healthy zambrano prior and miller, and what they accomplished early in their career, and the rotation, especially when miller went 18 and...... ok... calm down.....breathe.....

[b_wiggy_66]

Great News!!! It would be great to have 7 pitchers worthy of the rotation.

[A New Era]

I love doing this. :wink:

 

Zambrano

Prior

Miller

Hill

Lilly

 

"WHERE'S MARQUIS YOU DOLT!!"

 

Opp

 

Zambrano

Prior

Lilly

Hill

Marquis

[Brian]

Zambrano

Prior

Miller

Hill

Lilly

 

doesn't sound so bad.

 

But knowing the Cubs, all healthy we'd get

 

Zambrano

Prior

Miller

Lilly

Marquis

 

with Hill in AAA

[UMFan83]

Zambrano

Prior

Miller

Hill

Lilly

 

doesn't sound so bad.

 

But knowing the Cubs, all healthy we'd get

 

Zambrano

Prior

Miller

Lilly

Marquis

 

with Hill in AAA

 

The Cubs would have to be absolutely idiotic to do something like that.

 

Which is why they probably will....

[RichHillIsABeast]

Zambrano

Prior

Miller

Hill

Lilly

 

doesn't sound so bad.

 

But knowing the Cubs, all healthy we'd get

 

Zambrano

Prior

Miller

Lilly

Marquis

 

with Hill in AAA

 

:evil:

[CubinNY]

Posted this in the Kerry Wood injury thread, but it might be worth its own thread.

 

MESA, Ariz. -- The good news on the first day of workouts for Cubs pitchers and catchers Thursday was that Mark Prior and Wade Miller both threw off a mound. The bad news was that Kerry Wood was sidelined with an injury.

 

Wood bruised his right side when he fell out of a hot tub at his home Monday night. He'll be sidelined four to five days. His ego was hurt more than his rib cage.

 

"I'm just getting ready for Spring Training, feeling good," Wood said. "I [got out of the tub] and landed on my stomach and my chest and didn't feel too good. It's that time of year for me."

 

Wood, limited to four starts last season because of shoulder problems, had been throwing well the last two months leading up to the start of camp. This was not how he wanted to start Spring Training.

 

"I've got six weeks to get ready," he said. "I feel like I need 2 1/2 [weeks]. I was ready to go. I'd like to show people I'm ready instead of getting ice packs and people asking me questions. I am ready to go, I will be ready to go."

 

More about Prior and Miller:

 

Prior and Miller definitely looked healthy when they threw 30 pitches in the same group as Carlos Zambrano, Ted Lilly, Scott Eyre and Will Ohman. Both are coming off seasons in which they were hampered by injuries.

 

"They both threw the ball well, they really did," Piniella said of Prior and Miller. "It'd be like signing a couple more free agent pitchers [if they're ready]. These kids are good. Let's keep them throwing and keep them healthy and keep them working."

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070215&content_id=1803050&vkey=spt2007news&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc&partnered=rss_chc

 

You gotta love the quotes from Lou.

[David]

Maybe I'm naive, but I really think there is no chance that Rich Hill will not be in the Cubs rotation. I'll be willing to eat major crow if I'm wrong. I'm saying there is no chance at all, barring injury, or some ridiculously terrible spring performances (which really shouldn't come into play, but they are the Cubs) by Hill coinciding with some ridiculously good performances by a potential replacement.

 

By ridiculously bad, I mean worse than 2003 Shawn Estes.

[TruffleShuffle]

Maybe I'm naive, but I really think there is no chance that Rich Hill will not be in the Cubs rotation. I'll be willing to eat major crow if I'm wrong. I'm saying there is no chance at all, barring injury, or some ridiculously terrible spring performances (which really shouldn't come into play, but they are the Cubs) by Hill coinciding with some ridiculously good performances by a potential replacement.

 

Sadly, I wouldn't say "no chance." I've read in more than one article that the only gimmes in the rotation are Zambrano, Lilly and Marquis, and then Miller, Prior, Marshall and Hill fight it out for the other two spots. It's ridiculous that the Cubs' best player from the second half of last year isn't guaranteed a spot. But this is the Cubs we're talking about, and you don't go 100 years without winning a world series by making wise personnel decisions.

[CubinNY]

Maybe I'm naive, but I really think there is no chance that Rich Hill will not be in the Cubs rotation. I'll be willing to eat major crow if I'm wrong. I'm saying there is no chance at all, barring injury, or some ridiculously terrible spring performances (which really shouldn't come into play, but they are the Cubs) by Hill coinciding with some ridiculously good performances by a potential replacement.

 

By ridiculously bad, I mean worse than 2003 Shawn Estes.

 

Z

Hill

Lilly

Prior

Miller

 

Marquis becomes a long man. My guess is that someone (Marquis, Hill, Prior, or Miller) will get traded for a SS who can hit at the end of July.

[David]

Maybe I'm naive, but I really think there is no chance that Rich Hill will not be in the Cubs rotation. I'll be willing to eat major crow if I'm wrong. I'm saying there is no chance at all, barring injury, or some ridiculously terrible spring performances (which really shouldn't come into play, but they are the Cubs) by Hill coinciding with some ridiculously good performances by a potential replacement.

 

Sadly, I wouldn't say "no chance." I've read in more than one article that the only gimmes in the rotation are Zambrano, Lilly and Marquis, and then Miller, Prior, Marshall and Hill fight it out for the other two spots. It's ridiculous that the Cubs' best player from the second half of last year isn't guaranteed a spot. But this is the Cubs we're talking about, and you don't go 100 years without winning a world series by making wise personnel decisions.

 

I've read those things, too. I just attribute that more to media stupidity than Cubs stupidity (which there's plenty to go around of, as you pointed out, as well).

[moorecg]

Maybe I'm naive, but I really think there is no chance that Rich Hill will not be in the Cubs rotation. I'll be willing to eat major crow if I'm wrong. I'm saying there is no chance at all, barring injury, or some ridiculously terrible spring performances (which really shouldn't come into play, but they are the Cubs) by Hill coinciding with some ridiculously good performances by a potential replacement.

 

By ridiculously bad, I mean worse than 2003 Shawn Estes.

 

Z

Hill

Lilly

Prior

Miller

 

Marquis becomes a long man. My guess is that someone (Marquis, Hill, Prior, or Miller) will get traded for a SS who can hit at the end of July.

 

If they're all healthy, to begin the season Miller makes the most sense there...I don't think you can trade marquis till June or so since we just signed him...

[CubinNY]

Maybe I'm naive, but I really think there is no chance that Rich Hill will not be in the Cubs rotation. I'll be willing to eat major crow if I'm wrong. I'm saying there is no chance at all, barring injury, or some ridiculously terrible spring performances (which really shouldn't come into play, but they are the Cubs) by Hill coinciding with some ridiculously good performances by a potential replacement.

 

By ridiculously bad, I mean worse than 2003 Shawn Estes.

 

Z

Hill

Lilly

Prior

Miller

 

Marquis becomes a long man. My guess is that someone (Marquis, Hill, Prior, or Miller) will get traded for a SS who can hit at the end of July.

 

If they're all healthy, to begin the season Miller makes the most sense there...I don't think you can trade marquis till June or so since we just signed him...

 

Z, Hill, Lilly, Prior, Marquis

 

That probably makes much more sense. I just have no confidence in Marquis at all. He's been through Duncan and Mazzoni and they both couldn't "figure him out". I have no faith that Larry will do any better.

[Danny82]

I think they figured him out just fine. He just wouldn't listen. He's got a reputation for being quite stubborn.

[CubinNY]

I think they figured him out just fine. He just wouldn't listen. He's got a reputation for being quite stubborn.

 

I agree. How will Larry counteract Marquis "stubborness"?

[CubColtPacer]

Maybe I'm naive, but I really think there is no chance that Rich Hill will not be in the Cubs rotation. I'll be willing to eat major crow if I'm wrong. I'm saying there is no chance at all, barring injury, or some ridiculously terrible spring performances (which really shouldn't come into play, but they are the Cubs) by Hill coinciding with some ridiculously good performances by a potential replacement.

 

By ridiculously bad, I mean worse than 2003 Shawn Estes.

 

Z

Hill

Lilly

Prior

Miller

 

Marquis becomes a long man. My guess is that someone (Marquis, Hill, Prior, or Miller) will get traded for a SS who can hit at the end of July.

 

If they're all healthy, to begin the season Miller makes the most sense there...I don't think you can trade marquis till June or so since we just signed him...

 

Z, Hill, Lilly, Prior, Marquis

 

That probably makes much more sense. I just have no confidence in Marquis at all. He's been through Duncan and Mazzoni and they both couldn't "figure him out". I have no faith that Larry will do any better.

 

On the flip side, Marquis has been great in his first year with each of his two clubs (if you disregard the cup of coffee he had in 2000), so I'm hoping that extends to the Cubs as well.

[Guancous]

I'm glad the Cubs didn't guarantee Hill a spot. He could become complacent over the winter. It's good to keep those competitive fires burning. That said, I'd keep Hill in the rotation unless Marquis's ERA is 2 runs lower. And his mechanics are more sound. And Hill is injured.

[b_wiggy_66]

If everyone is healthy. Marquis shoudl really have to show something this spring to get a spot in the rotation. However, after paying him that much money they're not goin to put him in long relief. That is a shame because I hope everyone can stay healthy this spring and make everyone earn their spots in the rotation.

[Mephistopheles]

As bad as it sounds a well-timed trip to Dr Andrews and Birmingham for Jason Marquis might be the best thing for the Cubs chances this season.

[MPrior]

Maybe I'm naive, but I really think there is no chance that Rich Hill will not be in the Cubs rotation. I'll be willing to eat major crow if I'm wrong. I'm saying there is no chance at all, barring injury, or some ridiculously terrible spring performances (which really shouldn't come into play, but they are the Cubs) by Hill coinciding with some ridiculously good performances by a potential replacement.

 

By ridiculously bad, I mean worse than 2003 Shawn Estes.

 

Z

Hill

Lilly

Prior

Miller

 

Marquis becomes a long man. My guess is that someone (Marquis, Hill, Prior, or Miller) will get traded for a SS who can hit at the end of July.

 

Now, CubinNY, you know that's ridiculous. That's what the Cubs would do if they were smart. C'mon.

[Balsa]

I see:

 

Zambrano

Lilly

Hill

Prior

Guzman

 

With Marquis in the bullpen as the long relief/we don't care anymore option and Miller at AAA.

 

Reason I say Miller at AAA is because he hasn't thrown a lot of innings in a while and I think he still needs more time to work out some kinks.