Cubs Made An Offer To Suppan?

[CubmanPi]

I'll take Lilly over Suppan any day of the week.

 

Look at Suppan's innings over the past eight years and the rest of his stats over the past four seasons. He's been the model of consistency and is not at all the gamble the other SP's have been thus far. With Suppan you know what you're getting:

 

~190 IP

~110K

~60 BB

~4.00 ERA

31-32 Starts

~14 wins

 

With the Cubs, you don't know that last one to be true.

 

Also remember that he was with the Cards. Figure in the extra year of age and the change of scenery to the northside, and standard metrics project his numbers with the Cubs in '07 to be along the lines of:

 

~75 IP

~35K

~60BB

~6.35 ERA

~17 starts

~5 wins

~2.5 months on the DL

 

So you're just going to throw numbers around arbitrarily? Those are based on absolutely nothing. All of the sudden his bb/K ratio is going to flip flop? Standard metrics couldn't possibly be more wrong if this is the case. So based on this theory, or metric, would Carlos Zambrano be a 30-game winner if he joined the cards? Would he then strike out 300 hitters because he was a cardinal? Would he be twice the horse and throw more innings (300?) while staying even more healthy?

 

Um, I'm pretty sure he was just joking.

 

A joke. Is a story with a humorous climax? >:|

It was sarcastic (and bitter) commentary on the magic pitcher dust the Cards use on all their pitchers, combined with with a twist of traditional Cubs luck. Doesn't fit said definition of joke, but it was indeed a humble attempt at humor.

 

And as KingCubsFan pointed out, the answer to all bolded questions is an emphatic yes. He would also be grittier, scrappier, save babies between innings, and play with more grit and more scrap.

[wolf stansson]

Bernie is very reliable...

 

This is sarcasm, guys. Bernie is hit and miss.

 

Also, I think it's funny that when he is a Cardinal he is a soft tossing bum who is just lucky to have been dipped in some weird Cardinals magic, but now he is a good target for the Cubs. He doesn't deserve near the money he'll get.

 

Does anyone this offseason?

A few.

 

I like the Piazza deal, both Cardinals signings have been reasonable, there have been a few more.

[jjgman21]

Bernie is very reliable...

 

This is sarcasm, guys. Bernie is hit and miss.

 

Also, I think it's funny that when he is a Cardinal he is a soft tossing bum who is just lucky to have been dipped in some weird Cardinals magic, but now he is a good target for the Cubs. He doesn't deserve near the money he'll get.

 

I still think he's a soft tossing bum and predict a precipitous dropoff. aside from Haren, you'd be hard pressed to find any pitcher the Cards have let go of in the past decade that found even equal success after leaving. amazing what happens when you no longer have those borderline pitches going your way.

[TruffleShuffle]

I've seen two signings this offseason that I thought were bargains - Adam Kennedy, and Frank Catalanotto. The rest have been at or above what I would have expected.

[shnsajax]

I'll take Lilly over Suppan any day of the week.

 

Look at Suppan's innings over the past eight years and the rest of his stats over the past four seasons. He's been the model of consistency and is not at all the gamble the other SP's have been thus far. With Suppan you know what you're getting:

 

~190 IP

~110K

~60 BB

~4.00 ERA

31-32 Starts

~14 wins

 

With the Cubs, you don't know that last one to be true.

 

Also remember that he was with the Cards. Figure in the extra year of age and the change of scenery to the northside, and standard metrics project his numbers with the Cubs in '07 to be along the lines of:

 

~75 IP

~35K

~60BB

~6.35 ERA

~17 starts

~5 wins

~2.5 months on the DL

 

So you're just going to throw numbers around arbitrarily? Those are based on absolutely nothing. All of the sudden his bb/K ratio is going to flip flop? Standard metrics couldn't possibly be more wrong if this is the case. So based on this theory, or metric, would Carlos Zambrano be a 30-game winner if he joined the cards? Would he then strike out 300 hitters because he was a cardinal? Would he be twice the horse and throw more innings (300?) while staying even more healthy?

Yes, yes, yes and yes

 

He would also win the MVP along with the Cy Young, promiting then teammate Albert Pujlos to say that only hitters should be allowed to win the MVP.

[BigbadB]

I've seen two signings this offseason that I thought were bargains - Adam Kennedy, and Frank Catalanotto. The rest have been at or above what I would have expected.

 

I thought the Kerry Wood and Wade Miller signings were reasonable.