Cubs Made An Offer To Suppan?

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Bernie is very reliable...

 

Cardinals are standing pat on 3-yr, $20 million offer.... ASTROS and CUBS supposedly offering 3 yrs for more than $30 million.

 

 

Link

Edited December 7, 2006 by CardsFanInChiTown

[wekse]

perfect, just perfect.

[Drew Doughty]

Not shocked. Maybe Hendry knows something about Meche and Lilly that we don't.

[Flames24Rulz]

Bernie is very reliable...

 

Cardinals are standing pat on 3-yr, $20 million offer.... ASTROS and CUBS supposedly offering 3 yrs for more than $30 million.

 

 

Link

 

Finally, some good news!

[USSoccer]

Ugh.

[killthegoat06]

Bernie is very reliable...

 

Cardinals are standing pat on 3-yr, $20 million offer.... ASTROS and CUBS supposedly offering 3 yrs for more than $30 million.

 

 

Link

 

Suppan. Thanks for giving us the name. :wink:

[Flames24Rulz]

I'd much rather have Suppan than either Lilly or Meche. This FA pitching class is a joke, but Suppan is the lesser of the three evils.

[goonys evil twin]

I'd much rather have Suppan than either Lilly or Meche. This FA pitching class is a joke, but Suppan is the lesser of the three evils.

 

When he started pitching well in the postseason, I was predicting he'd make himself 3/33 in the offseason. I can't believe Lilly might get considerably more.

[b_wiggy_66]

Suppan over Lilly. Suppan was very, very, good over the second half last year.

[RammyFanny]

I'll say this, we could definately do alot worse than Suppan. Sure he will be overpayed, but just like every other single player on the market. People are saying ugh....but he did put up a better ERA than Lilly and Meche, and is still only 31.

[YearofDaCubs]

I'll take Lilly over Suppan any day of the week.

[YearofDaCubs]

I'll say this, we could definately do alot worse than Suppan. Sure he will be overpayed, but just like every other single player on the market. People are saying ugh....but he did put up a better ERA than Lilly and Meche, and is still only 31.

Suppan didn't fair well when he played in the American league. I believe Lilly will have better numbers by going to the National league.

[ThePenguin11]

I'd much rather have Suppan than either Lilly or Meche. This FA pitching class is a joke, but Suppan is the lesser of the three evils.

 

I agree. Suppan's numbers are ridicuolously consistent and he's proven durable and reliable in the playoffs. I'd love getting him over either Lilly or Meche. I was wondering why he was getting the backburner...

[Butterscup1679666578]

I'd be content with Suppan.

[YearofDaCubs]

Suppan's post all star numbers:

 

94ip 2.39era 1.28whip .253

 

Lilly's post all star numbers:

 

80ip 4.61era 1.36whip .256

 

Meche's post all star numbers:

 

76ip 5.42era 1.59whip .271

 

Maybe I take back what I said about Lilly over Suppan. Meche is garbage but we all knew that anyway.

[goonys evil twin]

I'll say this, we could definately do alot worse than Suppan. Sure he will be overpayed, but just like every other single player on the market. People are saying ugh....but he did put up a better ERA than Lilly and Meche, and is still only 31.

Suppan didn't fair well when he played in the American league. I believe Lilly will have better numbers by going to the National league.

 

Suppan spent most of his career in the AL, and was as good or better than Lilly most of the time. He had a bad 10 games with Boston, and that's about it.

 

I don't get how anybody could possibly claim Lilly is considerably better than Suppan.

[ThePenguin11]

I'll take Lilly over Suppan any day of the week.

 

Look at Suppan's innings over the past eight years and the rest of his stats over the past four seasons. He's been the model of consistency and is not at all the gamble the other SP's have been thus far. With Suppan you know what you're getting:

 

~190 IP

~110K

~60 BB

~4.00 ERA

31-32 Starts

~14 wins

[USSoccer]

I didn't realize Suppan's numbers were as decent as they are.

 

I take back most of my "ugh".

[YearofDaCubs]

I didn't realize Suppan's numbers were as decent as they are.

 

I take back most of my "ugh".

co-signed.

[goonys evil twin]

I didn't realize Suppan's numbers were as decent as they are.

 

I take back most of my "ugh".

co-signed.

 

I did the same thing back in October when I first looked into his career.

 

I predicted Jim would be hot and heavy for a halfway decent guy who could go 200 innings. I never realized how frequently Suppan has done that.

[goonys evil twin]

I'll take Lilly over Suppan any day of the week.

 

Look at Suppan's innings over the past eight years and the rest of his stats over the past four seasons. He's been the model of consistency and is not at all the gamble the other SP's have been thus far. With Suppan you know what you're getting:

 

~190 IP

~110K

~60 BB

~4.00 ERA

31-32 Starts

~14 wins

 

With the Cubs, you don't know that last one to be true.

[Shavo]

Sign Suppan and Meche.

 

Zambrano, Hill, Suppan, Meche, Prior/Miller/Guzman/Marshall.

[ThePenguin11]

I'll take Lilly over Suppan any day of the week.

 

Look at Suppan's innings over the past eight years and the rest of his stats over the past four seasons. He's been the model of consistency and is not at all the gamble the other SP's have been thus far. With Suppan you know what you're getting:

 

~190 IP

~110K

~60 BB

~4.00 ERA

31-32 Starts

~14 wins

 

With the Cubs, you don't know that last one to be true.

 

If Maddux could do it...

 

(Seven Cubs have won 14+ games in the past four seasons.)

Edited December 6, 2006 by ThePenguin11

[cubweiser03]

If thats true the Cards are offering 3/20M that is way below market. Almost insultingly low.

[ThePenguin11]

If thats true the Cards are offering 3/20M that is way below market. Almost insultingly low.

 

Hell, if we're giving 4 years to Meche or Lilly, I think Suppan deserves 4/$44M at least. Battle-tested and durable is all I need to know to sign that check. Of course I'm not signing the checks...