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I heard Bruce this morning on ESPN radio AM 1000 at 7:40 AM CST talking about these guys:

 

Craig Counsell

Randy Wolf

 

It was the first time I had seen or heard or read either of these names with respect to the Cubs.

 

Counsell would be used as a utility IF (isn't that Theriot's job?), and Wolf would be in the rotation if Meche or Lilly can't be signed.

 

 

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I heard Bruce this morning on ESPN radio AM 1000 at 7:40 AM CST talking about these guys:

 

Craig Counsell

Randy Wolf

 

It was the first time I had seen or heard or read either of these names with respect to the Cubs.

 

Counsell would be used as a utility IF (isn't that Theriot's job?), and Wolf would be in the rotation if Meche or Lilly can't be signed.

 

 

Hoops

 

Hmm..well, I think that Counsell would be the second backup infielder. We have 3 bench spots filled-Theriot, Pagan, Blanco. With 2 spots left, an outfielder and infielder are needed. It is said that the Cubs might sign Floyd for the outfield spot, and I woudn't think it was terrible if Counsell was signed to be the final bench guy.

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The question of this thread becomes-who do you want as your final bench player-Craig Counsell or Freddie Bynum?

 

Counsell every day, twice on Sunday. Just say no to fast freddie.

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The question of this thread becomes-who do you want as your final bench player-Craig Counsell or Freddie Bynum?

If he's truly going to be used as the final bench player, I'll take Freddie and the extra million dollars, please.

They both suck.

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I don't want to de-rail this thread too much, but I'm starting to think I'd be somewhat comfortable going into the season if Hendry just added Lugo at SS (goodbye Izturis) and added Lilly and Wolf. It's not ideal, but it might be enough depending on what Miller and/or Prior do.
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The question of this thread becomes-who do you want as your final bench player-Craig Counsell or Freddie Bynum?

 

Counsell every day, twice on Sunday. Just say no to fast freddie.

I guess I just don't see what Counsell can do at this point that Bynum can't.

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I don't mind having a 25th man on the roster so long as I have confidence that Sweet Lou will USE him as a 25th man and not a platoon partner.
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The question of this thread becomes-who do you want as your final bench player-Craig Counsell or Freddie Bynum?

 

Counsell every day, twice on Sunday. Just say no to fast freddie.

I guess I just don't see what Counsell can do at this point that Bynum can't.

 

Gets on base a little more, doesn't strike out NEAR as much and is more likely to replace Isturiz and/or DeRosa in a double switch than Murton.

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Gets on base a little more, doesn't strike out NEAR as much and is more likely to replace Isturiz and/or DeRosa in a double switch than Murton.

 

I hope I never have to hear those two words in connection with a Cubs managerial move ever again.

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Gets on base a little more, doesn't strike out NEAR as much and is more likely to replace Isturiz and/or DeRosa in a double switch than Murton.

 

I hope I never have to hear those two words in connection with a Cubs managerial move ever again.

 

I'm not saying I like the idea, or even that I like Counsell...just that I like Counsell better than Bynum as a player...(there is an argument for Bynum that he's faster so if we need a base swiped, or a runner to advance on a sac fly, or score on a single from 2nd late in the game he'd be better, and he'll likely be cheaper, but that doesnt' seem to matter much anymore). That being said, I don't love either option.

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Gets on base a little more, doesn't strike out NEAR as much and is more likely to replace Isturiz and/or DeRosa in a double switch than Murton.

 

I hope I never have to hear those two words in connection with a Cubs managerial move ever again.

 

I'm not saying I like the idea, or even that I like Counsell...just that I like Counsell better than Bynum as a player...(there is an argument for Bynum that he's faster so if we need a base swiped, or a runner to advance on a sac fly, or score on a single from 2nd late in the game he'd be better, and he'll likely be cheaper, but that doesnt' seem to matter much anymore). That being said, I don't love either option.

 

Last year Bynum had an OPS+ of 90, Counsell was 69.

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The question of this thread becomes-who do you want as your final bench player-Craig Counsell or Freddie Bynum?

If he's truly going to be used as the final bench player, I'll take Freddie and the extra million dollars, please.

They both suck.

 

You're killing me Smalls!! Honestly, as a cubs fan, how can you cry over one million dollars that isn't your money? I hope you're joking. Counsell sucks much, much, much less than Bynum - oh, and he's won a ring.

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Freddie Bynum just might be the dumbest baseball player ever.

 

It would take about a week before Lou Piniella finally flipped out and strangled him.

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Gets on base a little more, doesn't strike out NEAR as much and is more likely to replace Isturiz and/or DeRosa in a double switch than Murton.

 

I hope I never have to hear those two words in connection with a Cubs managerial move ever again.

 

I'm not saying I like the idea, or even that I like Counsell...just that I like Counsell better than Bynum as a player...(there is an argument for Bynum that he's faster so if we need a base swiped, or a runner to advance on a sac fly, or score on a single from 2nd late in the game he'd be better, and he'll likely be cheaper, but that doesnt' seem to matter much anymore). That being said, I don't love either option.

 

Last year Bynum had an OPS+ of 90, Counsell was 69.

 

So?

 

Tell me why YOU prefer Bynum.

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Gets on base a little more, doesn't strike out NEAR as much and is more likely to replace Isturiz and/or DeRosa in a double switch than Murton.

 

I hope I never have to hear those two words in connection with a Cubs managerial move ever again.

 

I'm not saying I like the idea, or even that I like Counsell...just that I like Counsell better than Bynum as a player...(there is an argument for Bynum that he's faster so if we need a base swiped, or a runner to advance on a sac fly, or score on a single from 2nd late in the game he'd be better, and he'll likely be cheaper, but that doesnt' seem to matter much anymore). That being said, I don't love either option.

 

Last year Bynum had an OPS+ of 90, Counsell was 69.

 

So?

 

Tell me why YOU prefer Bynum.

 

So? Well, that tells you Bynum was more productive last year. They both suck. But when stocking the team with sucky bench players, it's wise not to spend anymore than the minimum. It's really stupid to even consider spending $1 million. Use that million on a player that can actually help the team.

 

The fact that Counsell won a ring means nothing. The fact that somebody would bring that up as some sort of credit in his favor is, well, it's telling.

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Gets on base a little more, doesn't strike out NEAR as much and is more likely to replace Isturiz and/or DeRosa in a double switch than Murton.

 

I hope I never have to hear those two words in connection with a Cubs managerial move ever again.

 

I'm not saying I like the idea, or even that I like Counsell...just that I like Counsell better than Bynum as a player...(there is an argument for Bynum that he's faster so if we need a base swiped, or a runner to advance on a sac fly, or score on a single from 2nd late in the game he'd be better, and he'll likely be cheaper, but that doesnt' seem to matter much anymore). That being said, I don't love either option.

 

Last year Bynum had an OPS+ of 90, Counsell was 69.

 

If we are counting on the slugging of either Counsell or Bynum to get us anywhere then we might as well just quit now.

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Gets on base a little more, doesn't strike out NEAR as much and is more likely to replace Isturiz and/or DeRosa in a double switch than Murton.

 

I hope I never have to hear those two words in connection with a Cubs managerial move ever again.

 

I'm not saying I like the idea, or even that I like Counsell...just that I like Counsell better than Bynum as a player...(there is an argument for Bynum that he's faster so if we need a base swiped, or a runner to advance on a sac fly, or score on a single from 2nd late in the game he'd be better, and he'll likely be cheaper, but that doesnt' seem to matter much anymore). That being said, I don't love either option.

 

Last year Bynum had an OPS+ of 90, Counsell was 69.

 

If we are counting on the slugging of either Counsell or Bynum to get us anywhere then we might as well just quit now.

 

We aren't "counting" on it, but the fact is Bynum was more productive last year. It doesn't make much sense to go out and pay more for less productive bench players.

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