Rockies put Jason Jennings on the market...

[Elrhino]

If I were the Cubs, I would be very interested in trading for Jennings over the Padillas and Lilly tier of FA's. The Rockies are said to be interested in a CF and Pitching. If the Cubs are interested in Soriano to play CF, as reported, Pie might become expendable.

[Derwood]

Interesting considering they just signed him to an extension, right?

 

EDIT: Wrong

 

The Rockies are reportedly telling teams that Jason Jennings is available.

Jennings has a lot of value after his impressive 2006 season and the Rockies might not be able to re-sign him before he becomes a free agent next year, so dealing him is a viable option. They'll be looking for a center fielder and young pitching in return. The Mets have Lastings Milledge they could offer up, and the Astros could send over Willy Taveras and one of their better pitching prospects. As for the Yankees, the New York Post says the Rockies like Melky Cabrera but aren't sure whether he can play center. It's an especially tough assignment in Coors Field.

[goonys evil twin]

Interesting considering they just signed him to an extension, right?

 

EDIT: Wrong

 

The Rockies are reportedly telling teams that Jason Jennings is available.

Jennings has a lot of value after his impressive 2006 season and the Rockies might not be able to re-sign him before he becomes a free agent next year, so dealing him is a viable option. They'll be looking for a center fielder and young pitching in return. The Mets have Lastings Milledge they could offer up, and the Astros could send over Willy Taveras and one of their better pitching prospects. As for the Yankees, the New York Post says the Rockies like Melky Cabrera but aren't sure whether he can play center. It's an especially tough assignment in Coors Field.

 

If Melky gets the Yankees anything of value, I will be pissed. He's no good. He's a chubby non athlete who doesn't produce. He's the kind of guy who, if he was on the Cubs, nobody would talk about him. But since he's played for the Yankees, and Torre speaks highly of him and they say he's good, it's believed that he is good. He was hidden in a great lineup, and since he didn't completely crap the bed, all of a sudden people talk about him like he's a huge trading chip.

[Southpaw191679666239]

That name sounds familiar... didn't we have him in our system? Or is that another Jennings I'm thinking of?

[Balsa]

Jump on it!

[Derwood]

That name sounds familiar... didn't we have him in our system? Or is that another Jennings I'm thinking of?

 

you may be thinking of Robin Jennings

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If the Cubs signed Drew or Soriano to long-term deals for CF, Pie becomes expendable. Send the Rockies a package of Pie + one of Marmol, Mateo, Ryu + Novoa.

[cubweiser03]

Jennings is pretty solid not great but solid. He's like a Jeff Suppan but maybe better. He can at least k people more than Suppan can, so he might stil have some upside too being 28.

[Balsa]

Over half his starts were 7 IP or more. He suffered from a lack of run support, and had a bad September and April, but he's also young and plays in Coors.

[seanhopper]

The Cubs should definitely try to put together a package for Jennings. His #'s are getting better as he comes into his prime years.

I wonder if the Rockies would have a need for an athlete like Scott Moore and a pitching prospect--top five pitching prospect but not top echelon guy for Jennings.

[ChiCubsFan]

Why do people want to give up so much for Jennings? Pie AND a pitching prospect? He had a very good 2006 season, but what about before that? In 2005 and 2004 his road ERA was still near 5. Was 2006 his breakout year or was it a career year? He's somewhat young (28 ) but I wouldn't be so quick to trade Pie and then some for him.

[goonys evil twin]

Why do people want to give up so much for Jennings? Pie AND a pitching prospect? He had a very good 2006 season, but what about before that? In 2005 and 2004 his road ERA was still near 5. Was 2006 his breakout year or was it a career year? He's somewhat young (28 ) but I wouldn't be so quick to trade Pie and then some for him.

 

Career ERA+ of 103 is very similar to some guys who are going to cost $10+ million this offseason. I'm not a huge Pie fan, and believe his biggest value to the Cubs is in trade value, while he's relatively young. I wouldn't include the Cubs best pitcher prospects, but it's not like they have any sure thing pitching studs who absolutely can't be traded.

[Elrhino]

If I had any trepidation towards Jennings it would be that he only has 1 year left on this contract, and I would only do the deal if I felt pretty strongly that I could get Z or Jennings to sign an extension this offseason. Having them both hit the FA market at the same time is a bad thing.

[ChiCubsFan]

Why do people want to give up so much for Jennings? Pie AND a pitching prospect? He had a very good 2006 season, but what about before that? In 2005 and 2004 his road ERA was still near 5. Was 2006 his breakout year or was it a career year? He's somewhat young (28 ) but I wouldn't be so quick to trade Pie and then some for him.

 

Career ERA+ of 103 is very similar to some guys who are going to cost $10+ million this offseason. I'm not a huge Pie fan, and believe his biggest value to the Cubs is in trade value, while he's relatively young. I wouldn't include the Cubs best pitcher prospects, but it's not like they have any sure thing pitching studs who absolutely can't be traded.

 

Yeah, I guess I can see that. I just think there are better options available. Pie's second half last year was very good and he's still kinda young for AAA. I still have faith in him becoming a solid everyday CF. I would consider trading him straight up for Jennings, but I wouldnt trade Pie and Marmol. I'd also rather trade young relievers for Jake Westbrook, which was discussed in another thread. What's Jennings contract look like, anyways?

 

EDIT: I see he's a FA next year...what's he due to make this year?

[RyCubsFan]

No way is Jennings worth trading Pie for...

 

I'd give them Marshall and Moore.

[mg420]

No way is Jennings worth trading Pie for...

 

I'd give them Marshall and Moore.

 

i agree. no way pie gets traded for jennings. i doubt very highly he will be traded at all.

[ChiCubsFan]

No way is Jennings worth trading Pie for...

 

I'd give them Marshall and Moore.

 

That seems more like something I'd rather do. Although I'd imagine they'd have no desire for a 3B. They have Atkins there already and have Ian Stewart coming up. I think Pie would have to be included. How about Pie, JJ, and a prospect for Jennings and Hawpe?

[RyCubsFan]

No way is Jennings worth trading Pie for...

 

I'd give them Marshall and Moore.

 

That seems more like something I'd rather do. Although I'd imagine they'd have no desire for a 3B. They have Atkins there already and have Ian Stewart coming up. I think Pie would have to be included. How about Pie, JJ, and a prospect for Jennings and Hawpe?

 

As I said, I do not include Pie in a trade for Jennings. Jennings is not worth Pie.

[ChiCubsFan]

No way is Jennings worth trading Pie for...

 

I'd give them Marshall and Moore.

 

That seems more like something I'd rather do. Although I'd imagine they'd have no desire for a 3B. They have Atkins there already and have Ian Stewart coming up. I think Pie would have to be included. How about Pie, JJ, and a prospect for Jennings and Hawpe?

 

As I said, I do not include Pie in a trade for Jennings. Jennings is not worth Pie.

 

Even if you're getting rid of JJ and getting back Brad Hawpe (.966 OPS on the road last year)? You could sign JD Drew for CF (hopefully) and still have money to get another starter and another hitter. If you get a CF, Pie becomes expendable. I'm a little worried about Hawpe's second half numbers going down, but they were still alright (.820 OPS). I'd like an OF of Murton, Drew, Hawpe. Good production at a relatively low cost.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

There are two circumstances than lead to Pie being included.

 

1. The Rockies are looking for a CF. If they trade Jennings, they will be looking to fill that need.

 

2. If Drew or Soriano is signed to play CF, then Pie is blocked for the next few years. He could be moved to RF when Jones departs, but his value is as a CF.

 

If a CF were in the fold that effectively blocks Pie, I'd look to move him. If we sign a stop gap CF like Roberts or Lofton, then Pie's value is higher.

[Hosak8]

No way is Jennings worth trading Pie for...

 

I'd give them Marshall and Moore.

 

So, a proven commodity (though it is only a solid and unspectacular commodity) in an area of great need is not worth as much as a prospect who is far from "can't miss" and won't be helpful for a couple of years even if he doesn't miss?

 

Seriously?

 

This reminds me alot of people who wouldn't trade Guzman, Kelton, Bobby Hill, or Choi several years ago. Until the Cubs produce a position player with a clue at the Major League level, I am all for dealing a "prospect" for a Major Leaguer who is a position of need.

[RyCubsFan]

No way is Jennings worth trading Pie for...

 

I'd give them Marshall and Moore.

 

So, a proven commodity (though it is only a solid and unspectacular commodity) in an area of great need is not worth as much as a prospect who is far from "can't miss" and won't be helpful for a couple of years even if he doesn't miss?

 

Seriously?

 

This reminds me alot of people who wouldn't trade Guzman, Kelton, Bobby Hill, or Choi several years ago. Until the Cubs produce a position player with a clue at the Major League level, I am all for dealing a "prospect" for a Major Leaguer who is a position of need.

 

 

I think Pie could be helpful THIS year. Certainly by next year...

 

Pie rates well about what Kelton or Hill ever did. He's produced at a much higher level than either of them did...and at a much younger age.

 

The jury's still out on Guzman. I do think he's going to be successful. It's not fair to put pitchers in the same category as position players though. Pitchers are much more likely to get injurred.

 

No, Jennings is not worth Pie. Heck, I think Marshall in two years will be as good as Jennings. But maybe that's just me.

[Derwood]

 

Pie rates well about what Kelton or Hill ever did. He's produced at a much higher level than either of them did...and at a much younger age.

 

so did Jason Dubois

[USSoccer]

I don't think one should have trepidations about dealing Pie, but it has to be in the right deal.

[RyCubsFan]

 

Pie rates well about what Kelton or Hill ever did. He's produced at a much higher level than either of them did...and at a much younger age.

 

so did Jason Dubois

 

It's a horrible comparison. Dubois was 25 in Triple A, Pie was 21. That's a huge difference. Pie has abilities that Dubois simply does not have. He has abilities that come along only once in a long while.

 

If you're looking for a better comparison for your point, bring up Corey Patterson. (Though Pie and Corey are different players as well).