Dayn Perry's Top 20 Free Agents (from Fox Sports)

[HoopsCubs]

Another list. No real predictions per se.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6146228

[mul21]

That list gets thin real quick. And how does he rate Frank Thomas and Barry Bonds ahead of Schmidt, Mussina, and Pettitte, just on the likelihood of being healthy the whole season, regardless of production?

[Soriano12]

How is Vincente Padilla not on that list?

[Rob]

How is Vincente Padilla not on that list?

 

He's...not...good...?

[Soriano12]

How is Vincente Padilla not on that list?

 

He's...not...good...?

 

He is better than Meche, who is 17th on the list.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

How is Vincente Padilla not on that list?

 

He's...not...good...?

 

Plus Dayn Perry is a moron.

[rjchapma]

I agree they both are bad, but I wouldnt mind them in a cubs uniform.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Padilla wasn't bad at all considering league and park last year.

 

In fact...he might have been like...good.

[nilodnayr]

Padilla wasn't bad at all considering league and park last year.

 

In fact...he might have been like...good.

 

Not to mention he had two quite good years in Philly. Unfortunately, a couple bad years followed until this year. Quite a Soriano of pitchers (of course to a lesser extent).

[David]

I agree they both are bad, but I wouldnt mind them in a cubs uniform.

 

 

Brilliant

[rjchapma]

ha we need the pitching as bad as they are

[Ding Dong Johnson]

ha we need the pitching as bad as they are

 

No, we need good pitchers. If we just need people to throw the ball, they might as well give me a call.

[rjchapma]

ha i like the rhyme. obviously i would prefer a zito or schmidt, but meche or padilla would help out our staff.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

ha i like the rhyme. obviously i would prefer a zito or schmidt, but meche or padilla would help out our staff.

 

Not likely.

[rjchapma]

what you mean not likely?

[goonys evil twin]

ha i like the rhyme. obviously i would prefer a zito or schmidt, but meche or padilla would help out our staff.

 

Not likely.

 

If either threw 180 innings with an ERA+ around 105-115, they'd help this staff. I think Padilla is most likely to accomplish that.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

what you mean not likely?

 

How does adding 2 pitchers that, at their best, are average help? Padilla and Meche could be replaced with just about any 2 names in our organization in 2007 and get the same results. It would once again be an example of overpaying for mediocrity by signing either.

[rjchapma]

yeah thats all im saying. Or bullpen really wasnt that bad last year, but they had to come in like the 6th inning ever game cause we didnt have a starting rotation.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

ha i like the rhyme. obviously i would prefer a zito or schmidt, but meche or padilla would help out our staff.

 

Not likely.

 

If either threw 180 innings with an ERA+ around 105-115, they'd help this staff. I think Padilla is most likely to accomplish that.

 

Sure, more likely than Meche, but check out his past 3 seasons. I'd pass.

[CubColtPacer]

what you mean not likely?

 

How does adding 2 pitchers that, at their best, are average help? Padilla and Meche could be replaced with just about any 2 names in our organization in 2007 and get the same results. It would once again be an example of overpaying for mediocrity by signing either.

 

What pitcher in this organization besides Rich Hill could go out and make a full season of starts with a 4.5 ERA or better next year? The likelihood of one of them doing that with the chance is certainly not over 50 percent with their results this year. They would have to get acclimated to the majors very, very quickly to make that kind of improvement.

[rjchapma]

think about it padilla or jaun mateo? I prefer padilla no matter how bad he did the last three seasons.

[goonys evil twin]

ha i like the rhyme. obviously i would prefer a zito or schmidt, but meche or padilla would help out our staff.

 

Not likely.

 

If either threw 180 innings with an ERA+ around 105-115, they'd help this staff. I think Padilla is most likely to accomplish that.

 

Sure, more likely than Meche, but check out his past 3 seasons. I'd pass.

 

I've checked out his entire career. I believe the increased workload from reliever to 200 IP starter was very taxing on him, and he suffered in 2004 and 2005. Plus, I believe his 2006 proved he could get back to the 200 IP level. And his 2nd half 2005 combined with 2006 showed he could once again be effective while racking up innings. He's got a career ERA+ of 106, he suffered a setback in 2004 that carried into 2005, but was very good before 2004, and pretty good starting in the 2nd half of 2005 going forward. I think he's very likely to be a good pitcher the next couple years. No, he won't remind us of Prior, Wood, Zambrano from 2003, but you won't find anything like that in this market. The Cubs need multiple starters. Ideally they get a top of the rotation guy, but there are very few of them. And Padilla is very close to the top of my second tier of pitchers.

[mjuedes]

Anyone else notice how old all the top free agents are? There are only 5 guys under 30 on that list and there are at least 5 that are 38+, I know it is a product of the minor league system and the teams having control of them for 6 years, but that is wild that all the good free agents are that old.

[goonys evil twin]

Anyone else notice how old all the top free agents are? There are only 5 guys under 30 on that list and there are at least 5 that are 38+, I know it is a product of the minor league system and the teams having control of them for 6 years, but that is wild that all the good free agents are that old.

 

Part of that is laziness of a writer who relies on name recognition when ranking free agents. Why is somebody like Piazza even on the list? He's a decaying shell of his former self. Moises is a platoon player. I think he's ranking them for what they've done in the past moreso than what they are likely to do in the future.

[Rob]

think about it padilla or jaun mateo? I prefer padilla no matter how bad he did the last three seasons.

 

For 6-8 million bucks (if not more), I'd be inclined to take my chances that one of Guzman, Marshall, Mateo, or Marmol would be able to put up an ERA approximating 4.50.

 

I'd even be more apt to rush Gallagher up to the bigs and take my chances with him than throw money at Padilla. Gallagher has an advanced approach to the game, and I think he'd be able to handle the adjustment fairly well. Veal definately needs some more seasoning, though...