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Today's Dugout is probably a better tribute to Lidle than any major media outlet will ever come up with.

 

It had it's funny moments ("I was gonna go have a few beers with Babe Ruth and Randy Johnson's career.") but I agree with you completely in that it was a good tribute.

 

And that is so true about the cliche's written by the sportswriters. I'm not trying to hijack the thread here but what I'm going to say pertains to this issue. One of the things that ticks me off is all the stories about remembering the death of Pat Tillman. I realize that it's unfortunate that he passed away but nobody would be saying a word about Pat Tillman if he didn't play football. I'm not trying to downplay the death of a US soldier in a war, but he would have been just another soldier. There wouldn't be stories in ESPN the magazine or Sports Illustrated commemerating what he did. They wouldn't have 15 minute pieces on SportsCenter talking about him. At least with Lidle there would still be a ton of news coverage because it was a plane hitting a building in New York as evidenced by the story being on CNN for a little while before it was reported Lidle was involved. I'm not trying to be insensitive but the media takes these things WAY too far overboard.

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And that is so true about the cliche's written by the sportswriters. I'm not trying to hijack the thread here but what I'm going to say pertains to this issue. One of the things that ticks me off is all the stories about remembering the death of Pat Tillman. I realize that it's unfortunate that he passed away but nobody would be saying a word about Pat Tillman if he didn't play football. I'm not trying to downplay the death of a US soldier in a war, but he would have been just another soldier. There wouldn't be stories in ESPN the magazine or Sports Illustrated commemerating what he did. They wouldn't have 15 minute pieces on SportsCenter talking about him. At least with Lidle there would still be a ton of news coverage because it was a plane hitting a building in New York as evidenced by the story being on CNN for a little while before it was reported Lidle was involved. I'm not trying to be insensitive but the media takes these things WAY too far overboard.

 

Cliches and overboard are entirely different. The cliches are thing BS about putting things in perspective, then the same guys will go out and freak out about ARod in the playoffs or whatever else.

 

I don't get complaining about the Tillman coverage just because he got more than most soldiers. You, if you don't want to hear the stories, it's extremely easy to avoid them.

 

People seem to like complaining about the media a lot. They are an important part of society, but many think of them the same way they think of your typical congressman.

 

To counter the anti-media talk, here is a nice story on the Lidle situation, written by a member of the media, and friend of Lidle's.

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And that is so true about the cliche's written by the sportswriters. I'm not trying to hijack the thread here but what I'm going to say pertains to this issue. One of the things that ticks me off is all the stories about remembering the death of Pat Tillman. I realize that it's unfortunate that he passed away but nobody would be saying a word about Pat Tillman if he didn't play football. I'm not trying to downplay the death of a US soldier in a war, but he would have been just another soldier. There wouldn't be stories in ESPN the magazine or Sports Illustrated commemerating what he did. They wouldn't have 15 minute pieces on SportsCenter talking about him. At least with Lidle there would still be a ton of news coverage because it was a plane hitting a building in New York as evidenced by the story being on CNN for a little while before it was reported Lidle was involved. I'm not trying to be insensitive but the media takes these things WAY too far overboard.

 

Cliches and overboard are entirely different. The cliches are thing BS about putting things in perspective, then the same guys will go out and freak out about ARod in the playoffs or whatever else.

 

I don't get complaining about the Tillman coverage just because he got more than most soldiers. You, if you don't want to hear the stories, it's extremely easy to avoid them.

 

People seem to like complaining about the media a lot. They are an important part of society, but many think of them the same way they think of your typical congressman.

 

To counter the anti-media talk, here is a nice story on the Lidle situation, written by a member of the media, and friend of Lidle's.

 

I do avoid the Tillman stories. It ticks me off because what makes Tillman more special than any other soldier that has died in a war? That he was lucky to be skilled enough at football to play in the NFL? That's BS. I know the media is an important part of society and I am trying to make my way into that part of society but they do go overboard with a lot of these stories.

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I do avoid the Tillman stories. It ticks me off because what makes Tillman more special than any other soldier that has died in a war? That he was lucky to be skilled enough at football to play in the NFL? That's BS.

 

There are highly publicized deaths every week, and thousands of other deaths that go unreported. I think it is much better to have a story about Tillman's death, than no stories about soldier's deaths. At least it brought attention to the soldiers' plight. It's not a matter of him being more special. But the fact that he walked away from millions to serve is a story worth being told. Likewise, the guys who died in the battle that eventually turned into the Blackhawk Down got a ton of press, including books, movies and tv specials about them. What makes them so special that they deserved the attention?

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I do avoid the Tillman stories. It ticks me off because what makes Tillman more special than any other soldier that has died in a war? That he was lucky to be skilled enough at football to play in the NFL? That's BS.

 

There are highly publicized deaths every week, and thousands of other deaths that go unreported. I think it is much better to have a story about Tillman's death, than no stories about soldier's deaths. At least it brought attention to the soldiers' plight. It's not a matter of him being more special. But the fact that he walked away from millions to serve is a story worth being told. Likewise, the guys who died in the battle that eventually turned into the Blackhawk Down got a ton of press, including books, movies and tv specials about them. What makes them so special that they deserved the attention?

 

Don't get me wrong. I have tremendous respect for anybody that joins the military for whatever reason because I could never do it. I applaud Tillman for walking away from NFL millions to join the military. As for Blackhawk Down or most of the other military movies, I can't speak for those stories because I don't know much about them and don't watch those types of movies (just not my thing). So I can't offer a comparison to Pat Tillman and Blackhawk Down or other based-on-true-events movies.

 

BTW there was just an ad for a Pat Tillman "Outside the Lines" special on Sunday. Worth mentioning.

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It had it's funny moments ("I was gonna go have a few beers with Babe Ruth and Randy Johnson's career.") but I agree with you completely in that it was a good tribute.

 

 

I busted out laughing when I read that.

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