Play GM/Manager '07.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Here's a little twist to the playing GM game: How would you construct the team if you couldnt make any trades or sign any FA(besides those already on the team that you'd be re-signing)? In other words, what do you think would be the best team with the players we already have? I think I'd have this lineup:

 

SS- Theriot

LF- Murton

1B- Lee

3B- Ramirez

RF- Jones/ Restovich

C- Barrett

CF- Pie/ Pagan

2B- Moore (I'd experiment with him there, if it didnt work I'd put Theriot at 2B and have Izturis and Cedeno fight for SS)

 

Zambrano

Hill

Prior

Miller

Marshall/ Guzman/ Marmol/ Mateo

 

Wood

Howry

Eyre

Wuertz

Dempster

Ohman

Marshall/ Guzman/ Marmol/Mateo

 

Bench: Blanco, Restovich/ Jones, Pagan/ Pie, Izturis/Cedeno/Moore, Bynum

 

If a few things went right I think that could be a pretty decent team. Then again if a few things went wrong it'd be awful. Not saying I dont think we should make any moves, I just wanted to do this for fun.

 

If I couldn't make trades for players that would help the team and I couldn't sign any FA, then I'd probably unload all my vets for more prospects because the team as it is now can't compete.

[RockTheIvy]

1B: Lee

2B: Soriano (3/45)

3B: Ramirez

SS: Tejada

LF: Jones

RF: Pie

CF: Cameron (2/12)

C: Barrett

 

Trade Izturis, Murton, Patterson and Marshall for Tejada

 

Bench:

Soto

Theriot

Restovich

Moore

Cedeno

 

 

SP: Zambrano

SP: Hill

SP: Prior

SP: Miller

SP: Padilla (2/8)

 

RP: Marmol

RP: Ohman

RP: Eyre

RP: Wuertz

RP: Dempster

RP: Mateo

RP: Howry

[VanceJergins]

Here's a little twist to the playing GM game: How would you construct the team if you couldnt make any trades or sign any FA(besides those already on the team that you'd be re-signing)? In other words, what do you think would be the best team with the players we already have? I think I'd have this lineup:

 

SS- Theriot

LF- Murton

1B- Lee

3B- Ramirez

RF- Jones/ Restovich

C- Barrett

CF- Pie/ Pagan

2B- Moore (I'd experiment with him there, if it didnt work I'd put Theriot at 2B and have Izturis and Cedeno fight for SS)

 

Zambrano

Hill

Prior

Miller

Marshall/ Guzman/ Marmol/ Mateo

 

Wood

Howry

Eyre

Wuertz

Dempster

Ohman

Marshall/ Guzman/ Marmol/Mateo

 

Bench: Blanco, Restovich/ Jones, Pagan/ Pie, Izturis/Cedeno/Moore, Bynum

 

If a few things went right I think that could be a pretty decent team. Then again if a few things went wrong it'd be awful. Not saying I dont think we should make any moves, I just wanted to do this for fun.

 

If I couldn't make trades for players that would help the team and I couldn't sign any FA, then I'd probably unload all my vets for more prospects because the team as it is now can't compete.

 

That would be making trades, you're not playing by the rules [-X . But I was more talking about playing Macgyver than realistic scenarios.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

1B: Lee

2B: Soriano (3/45)

3B: Ramirez

SS: Tejada

LF: Jones

RF: Pie

CF: Cameron (2/12)

C: Barrett

 

Trade Izturis, Murton, Patterson and Marshall for Tejada

 

Bench:

Soto

Theriot

Restovich

Moore

Cedeno

 

 

SP: Zambrano

SP: Hill

SP: Prior

SP: Miller

SP: Padilla (2/8)

 

RP: Marmol

RP: Ohman

RP: Eyre

RP: Wuertz

RP: Dempster

RP: Mateo

RP: Howry

 

Soriano is not going to sign a 3/45 deal. To get him on a three-year contract, think major overpaying....3/57 might get it done.

Padilla will sign either a longer term deal or one larger than 4 million. At minimum on Padilla, think 3/16. I doubt Cameron is available that cheaply as well.

[RockTheIvy]

1B: Lee

2B: Soriano (3/45)

3B: Ramirez

SS: Tejada

LF: Jones

RF: Pie

CF: Cameron (2/12)

C: Barrett

 

Trade Izturis, Murton, Patterson and Marshall for Tejada

 

Bench:

Soto

Theriot

Restovich

Moore

Cedeno

 

 

SP: Zambrano

SP: Hill

SP: Prior

SP: Miller

SP: Padilla (2/8)

 

RP: Marmol

RP: Ohman

RP: Eyre

RP: Wuertz

RP: Dempster

RP: Mateo

RP: Howry

 

Soriano is not going to sign a 3/45 deal. To get him on a three-year contract, think major overpaying....3/57 might get it done.

Padilla will sign either a longer term deal or one larger than 4 million. At minimum on Padilla, think 3/16. I doubt Cameron is available that cheaply as well.

 

Well then I guess the Cubs will have to pay more.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

1B: Lee

2B: Soriano (3/45)

3B: Ramirez

SS: Tejada

LF: Jones

RF: Pie

CF: Cameron (2/12)

C: Barrett

 

Trade Izturis, Murton, Patterson and Marshall for Tejada

 

Bench:

Soto

Theriot

Restovich

Moore

Cedeno

 

 

SP: Zambrano

SP: Hill

SP: Prior

SP: Miller

SP: Padilla (2/8)

 

RP: Marmol

RP: Ohman

RP: Eyre

RP: Wuertz

RP: Dempster

RP: Mateo

RP: Howry

 

Soriano is not going to sign a 3/45 deal. To get him on a three-year contract, think major overpaying....3/57 might get it done.

Padilla will sign either a longer term deal or one larger than 4 million. At minimum on Padilla, think 3/16. I doubt Cameron is available that cheaply as well.

 

Well then I guess the Cubs will have to pay more.

 

With the figures you have, the payroll is already nearing 105 million. I'm not sure the Cubs will pay more. That's why I don't find your moves very feasible.

[Magnetic Curses]

brady clark

ryan freel

barry zito

jason schmidt

re-sign ramirez

 

1. brady clark

2. ryan freel

3. DLee

4. ARam

5. Jones

6. barrett

7. murton

8. izturis

 

z

zito

schmidt

hill

prior

[frostwyrm]

I don't see how we get Tejada without giving up Z. If I were running the O's I'd tell Hendry not to waste my time with Tejada talk unless Z was in the discussion.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I don't see how we get Tejada without giving up Z. If I were running the O's I'd tell Hendry not to waste my time with Tejada talk unless Z was in the discussion.

 

If the Orioles decided to completely rebuild, I could see Tejada being acquired without the Cubs having to trade Zambrano.

 

But I think it would take one hell of a package because a lot of teams would be lining up to make that deal.

[frostwyrm]

I don't see how we get Tejada without giving up Z. If I were running the O's I'd tell Hendry not to waste my time with Tejada talk unless Z was in the discussion.

 

If the Orioles decided to completely rebuild, I could see Tejada being acquired without the Cubs having to trade Zambrano.

 

But I think it would take one hell of a package because a lot of teams would be lining up to make that deal.

 

Maybe, but if we don't offer Z then an alternative package would have to be MASSIVE, I'm talking the whole freakin farm. I can't see it happening. Again, if I ran the O's Z would be in the discussion or there would be no discussion.

[muntjack]

1. Resign Aramis

2. Trade Marshall, Moore, Veal and Pie for Miguel Cabrera

3. Sign Soriano

4. Resign Wade Miller

5. Trade Jacque Jones and David Aardsma for J.J. Putz and PTBNL

6. Win world series

 

Lineup

 

Pierre CF

Murton C

Lee 1B

Cabrera RF

Ramirez 3B

Soriano 2B

Barrett C

Izturis SS

 

Rotation

 

Zambrano

Hill

Prior

Miller

Guzman/Mateo with Gallagher in the wings

 

Pen

 

Marmol

Ryu

Ohman

Eyre

Howry

Putz

[Brothaman33]

a couple things...

 

i read somewhere that Juan Pierre woudnt come back unless Dusty, and shoot me if Dusty comes back... so im assuming.

mlbtraderumors.com says that Ramirez will proably be back.

 

Having said that i would still try to re-sing him but i dont think hell be back

 

My only problem with Playing Pie in C next year is that he will have rookie struggles and if we are plannig on winning now he cant play out there.

 

Im putting together my roster together as if Wood and Prior arnt even on my roster. if they come back healthy then its like a trade that we give nuthin.

 

Wade Miller struck out 8 in 5 innings last start and gave up 1 earned run.

from what i saw he has a pretty good curveball. he was pitching low 80's fastballs when he first came back from the injury, now he is pitching low 90's. i saw him hit 92 and even 93 once or twice. imagine what an offseason will do to him to get his arm strength back...

 

Murton plays somewhere in the outfield....

 

FA pickup, Alfonso Soriano, a 40-40 guy, give him the money...

i would LOVE Zito but i dont think we have the cabbage...

so i would settle for schmidt

 

Staff

 

1. Zambrano, Ace of staff i expect 15-20 wins

3. Schmidt, give me 12-15 wins

4. Hill, he has looked lights out im hoping for 2 things, either a Prior esque year and goes out and wins 18 or sumthin, or goes like 10-12. We have to put him there because of what he has done lately

Miller, With a offseason of working wiht his arm strength i think this guy will have what it takes to go back to old form.

5. From waht i see we have, Marshall, Mateo, Guzman, Marmol

 

let me say something here? why does anyone have Guzman in their rotation for next year?

 

The guy gets BLOWN AWAY every outing! He has shwon NOTHING that says he can be a starter.

 

HES 0-6 WITH A ERA OVER 7!

0-6!!!!

OVER 7!!!!

 

his ERA over the last month is 9!!!!

9!!!!!

 

Why do you have faith in him, he has been HORRIFIC!!!

 

but back to my team...

I love Marmol, and he hasnt been what he was since going to the bullpen and wiht the injury. I have Marshall start with the job. but have it be a competition.

 

so, just to ellaboprate

 

1. Zambrano

2. Schmidt

3. Hill

4. Miller

5. Marshall

 

Bullpen

Howry

Eyre

Mateo

Guzman (maybe he turns it around but if not i think you get rid of him)

Dempster (put him here until you figure out if he can be good or not)

Wuertz?

 

Closer

Marmol...I love him and i think he has great potential to be starter or closer...but for now

 

Now since i put this together assuming Prior and Wood are hurt...now imagine if they are healthy

 

Zambrano

Prior

Wood

Schmidt

Hill/Miller/Marshall,,,

 

LINEUP

 

C-Barrett, one of the best in the NL

1B-Lee, givin

2B-Theriot, he has earned it

SS-Izturis, 1 thing and i thing only, FIELDING

3B-Ramirez, all he does is put up numbers, .291, 35, 111...THOSE ARE GREAT STATS.

The Outfield is

Soriano

Jones

Murton

 

i dont know who playes where but those are the 3 who play...

 

Lineup...i hate losing Pierre because we have no leadoff hitter now...

 

candidates

 

Soriano, why? he has done it all year, Why not? becaus he hits 40 HR's

Theriot, Why? he has a great avg. Why not? he has never done it for a full year, and he is too young.

Murton, Why? great on-base guy and avg. Why not? young, never done it..

 

Im gonna go wiht Murton hes hitting 300 and he gets on base. they alwasy talk about how his power will come around...i dont see it

 

Murton

Izturis (he has good plate discepline)

Lee

Soriano

Ramirez

Jones

Barrett

Theriot (you dont know how welll hes gonna be)

P

 

so to recap

 

Murton

Izturis

Lee

Soriano

Ramirez

Jones

Barrett

Theriot

 

Zambrano

Schmidt

Hill

Miller

Marshall

 

thankyou for your time

[VanceJergins]

a couple things...

 

i read somewhere that Juan Pierre woudnt come back unless Dusty, and shoot me if Dusty comes back... so im assuming.

mlbtraderumors.com says that Ramirez will proably be back.

 

Having said that i would still try to re-sing him but i dont think hell be back

 

My only problem with Playing Pie in C next year is that he will have rookie struggles and if we are plannig on winning now he cant play out there.

 

Im putting together my roster together as if Wood and Prior arnt even on my roster. if they come back healthy then its like a trade that we give nuthin.

 

Wade Miller struck out 8 in 5 innings last start and gave up 1 earned run.

from what i saw he has a pretty good curveball. he was pitching low 80's fastballs when he first came back from the injury, now he is pitching low 90's. i saw him hit 92 and even 93 once or twice. imagine what an offseason will do to him to get his arm strength back...

 

Murton plays somewhere in the outfield....

 

FA pickup, Alfonso Soriano, a 40-40 guy, give him the money...

i would LOVE Zito but i dont think we have the cabbage...

so i would settle for schmidt

 

Staff

 

1. Zambrano, Ace of staff i expect 15-20 wins

3. Schmidt, give me 12-15 wins

4. Hill, he has looked lights out im hoping for 2 things, either a Prior esque year and goes out and wins 18 or sumthin, or goes like 10-12. We have to put him there because of what he has done lately

Miller, With a offseason of working wiht his arm strength i think this guy will have what it takes to go back to old form.

5. From waht i see we have, Marshall, Mateo, Guzman, Marmol

 

let me say something here? why does anyone have Guzman in their rotation for next year?

 

The guy gets BLOWN AWAY every outing! He has shwon NOTHING that says he can be a starter.

 

HES 0-6 WITH A ERA OVER 7!

0-6!!!!

OVER 7!!!!

 

his ERA over the last month is 9!!!!

9!!!!!

 

Why do you have faith in him, he has been HORRIFIC!!!

 

but back to my team...

I love Marmol, and he hasnt been what he was since going to the bullpen and wiht the injury. I have Marshall start with the job. but have it be a competition.

 

so, just to ellaboprate

 

1. Zambrano

2. Schmidt

3. Hill

4. Miller

5. Marshall

 

Bullpen

Howry

Eyre

Mateo

Guzman (maybe he turns it around but if not i think you get rid of him)

Dempster (put him here until you figure out if he can be good or not)

Wuertz?

 

Closer

Marmol...I love him and i think he has great potential to be starter or closer...but for now

 

Now since i put this together assuming Prior and Wood are hurt...now imagine if they are healthy

 

Zambrano

Prior

Wood

Schmidt

Hill/Miller/Marshall,,,

 

LINEUP

 

C-Barrett, one of the best in the NL

1B-Lee, givin

2B-Theriot, he has earned it

SS-Izturis, 1 thing and i thing only, FIELDING

3B-Ramirez, all he does is put up numbers, .291, 35, 111...THOSE ARE GREAT STATS.

The Outfield is

Soriano

Jones

Murton

 

i dont know who playes where but those are the 3 who play...

 

Lineup...i hate losing Pierre because we have no leadoff hitter now...

 

candidates

 

Soriano, why? he has done it all year, Why not? becaus he hits 40 HR's

Theriot, Why? he has a great avg. Why not? he has never done it for a full year, and he is too young.

Murton, Why? great on-base guy and avg. Why not? young, never done it..

 

Im gonna go wiht Murton hes hitting 300 and he gets on base. they alwasy talk about how his power will come around...i dont see it

 

Murton

Izturis (he has good plate discepline)

Lee

Soriano

Ramirez

Jones

Barrett

Theriot (you dont know how welll hes gonna be)

P

 

so to recap

 

Murton

Izturis

Lee

Soriano

Ramirez

Jones

Barrett

Theriot

 

Zambrano

Schmidt

Hill

Miller

Marshall

 

thankyou for your time

 

1.) Izturis does not have good plate discepline

2.) I wouldnt be comfortable putting Marmol at closer at the begining of next year. Maybe try him there in Iowa and see how he does.

3.) I kind of agree with you about Guzman, and its not just this year. I know he's had injuries since 03 but his stats just havent been good since then and he doesnt seem to be showing any improvement. I know he has a lot of potential, but I'm starting to feel like he's never going to reach it....but I thought that about Hill too.

[Brothaman33]

Izturis isnt bad, and i would put him there before a throw a young Theriot there.

 

I would take the risk of putting marmol in the closer role then see dempster again...

 

 

and

 

Hill was AMAZING in triple A, Guzman had like a 3 and a half ERA the first time we brought him up.

 

please, Guzman needs to show something in freakin A ball before he gets in the rotation. He has been Ugly.

[A New Era]

mlbtraderumors = teh suk.

[VanceJergins]

Izturis isnt bad, and i would put him there before a throw a young Theriot there.

 

I would take the risk of putting marmol in the closer role then see dempster again...

 

 

and

 

Hill was AMAZING in triple A, Guzman had like a 3 and a half ERA the first time we brought him up.

 

please, Guzman needs to show something in freakin A ball before he gets in the rotation. He has been Ugly.

 

Hopefully we dont have to put Izturis or Theriot there and we can sign a good OBP guy like Loretta or Giles to put in a 1-2 spot with Murton.

 

I think someone like Wuertz would be a safer bet at closer than Marmol. But if Marmol went lights out as closer at AAA at the beginning of the season then they could try it.

 

And I definitely think Guzman needs to go back to AAA next year and try to put it together, and hopefully something clicks and he pulls a Rich Hill.

[Brothaman33]

yea i wouldnt mind Giles, id like to see Izturis at short because of the way he can field... and Theriot has shown that he can play

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

yea i wouldnt mind Giles, id like to see Izturis at short because of the way he can field... and Theriot has shown that he can play

 

I'm resigned to the fact that we're stuck with Izturis. He should bat no higher than eighth. When Zambrano pitches...he might should hit ninth.

[frostwyrm]

yea i wouldnt mind Giles, id like to see Izturis at short because of the way he can field... and Theriot has shown that he can play

 

I'm resigned to the fact that we're stuck with Izturis. He should bat no higher than eighth. When Zambrano pitches...he might should hit ninth.

Don't worry, Neifi will be back at the deadline. Izzy will be on the DL.

[A New Era]

yea i wouldnt mind Giles, id like to see Izturis at short because of the way he can field... and Theriot has shown that he can play

 

I'm resigned to the fact that we're stuck with Izturis. He should bat no higher than eighth. When Zambrano pitches...he might should hit ninth.

Don't worry, Neifi will be back at the deadline. Izzy will be on the DL.

 

Couldn't we just use Theroit, or god forbid, even cedeno? Atleast they are cheaper.

[Anomalied]

Let me have another crack at this.

 

1. Resign Juan Pierre.

2. Sign Jason Schmidt.

3. Sign Vincente Padilla.

4. Trade Mark Prior, Cesar Izturis, and Sean Marshall to the Baltimore Orioles for Miguel Tejada.

 

(If we’re out of it by the All-Star break, trade Pierre and bring up Pie. Especially if he's tearing up AAA.)

 

Starting Lineup

 

1. Juan Pierre (CF)

2. Matt Murton (LF)

3. Derrek Lee (1B)

4. Miguel Tejada (SS)

5. Aramis Ramirez (3B)

6. Jacque Jones (RF)

7. Michael Barrett ©

8. Ryan Theriot (2B)

 

Starting Rotation

 

1. Carlos Zambrano

2. Jason Schmidt

3. Vincente Padilla

4. Rich Hill

5. Carlos Marmol/Angel Guzman/Juan Mateo (battle it out in Spring Training)

 

Bullpen

 

1. Carlos Marmol/Angel Guzman/Juan Mateo (whichever didn’t make the rotation)

2. Michael Wuertz

3. Will Ohman

4. David Aardsma

5. Scott Eyre

6. Bob Howry

7. Ryan Dempster

 

 

Bench

 

1. Ronny Cedeno (SS/2B)

2. Scott Moore (1B/3B)

3. Angel Pagan (OF)

4. Frank Catalanotto (OF)

5. Geovany Soto ©

[RammyFanny]

mlbtraderumors = teh suk.

 

Well to be fair, the guys who writes BleedCubbyBlue and Will Carrol both said they think he will be back and that a contract is already in place.

[RichHillIsABeast]

yea i wouldnt mind Giles, id like to see Izturis at short because of the way he can field... and Theriot has shown that he can play

 

I'm resigned to the fact that we're stuck with Izturis. He should bat no higher than eighth. When Zambrano pitches...he might should hit ninth.

 

Izzy is going to spend so much time on the DL we'd better go get a quality backup. Ronny C definitely isn't it.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

yea i wouldnt mind Giles, id like to see Izturis at short because of the way he can field... and Theriot has shown that he can play

 

I'm resigned to the fact that we're stuck with Izturis. He should bat no higher than eighth. When Zambrano pitches...he might should hit ninth.

 

Izzy is going to spend so much time on the DL we'd better go get a quality backup. Ronny C definitely isn't it.

 

Theriot is, however.

[frostwyrm]

yea i wouldnt mind Giles, id like to see Izturis at short because of the way he can field... and Theriot has shown that he can play

 

I'm resigned to the fact that we're stuck with Izturis. He should bat no higher than eighth. When Zambrano pitches...he might should hit ninth.

Don't worry, Neifi will be back at the deadline. Izzy will be on the DL.

 

Couldn't we just use Theroit, or god forbid, even cedeno? Atleast they are cheaper.

 

In a pennant race? We're talking about Jim Hendry here. Looks like the Tigers will make the playoffs, and if they win the WS or Neifi makes any positive contribution whatsoever I can absolutely guarantee that Hendry will try to get Neifi back at the deadline next year if we are in contention.