The Soccer Thread

[wolf stansson]

Since I can't find the game what's going on?

Typical last gasp dubious PK gives Mexico an opp to tie despite playing vs ten most of the game. Fans toss [expletive] on field, fan rushes the field,10 min delay, Guardado buries it.

[USSoccer]

Panamanian defender gets fouled jumping to clear, falls on ball, Geiger calls inexplicable PK. Panama gets pissed. Mexican fans throw [expletive] at Panama's coach and bench, Panama's captain leads them off the field saying they are done playing, and it takes 10 minutes and Blas Perez begging to get them to go back out.

[shnsajax]

So nothing out of the ordinary I take it.

[shnsajax]

Finally found the game.

[USSoccer]

Wow.

 

You'll have a hard time convincing me that wasnt a dive.

[wolf stansson]

Ugh

[shnsajax]

It's pretty funny how many penalties Mexico has been given since the WC.

 

Want to see just an all out brawl.

[wolf stansson]

FLY HIGH, YOU PROUD MEXICAN EAGLES!

[USSoccer]

A Panamanian will get thrown out before this ends.

[shnsajax]

FLY HIGH, YOU PROUD MEXICAN EAGLES!

 

They are telling their kids how great this game is and by playing so hard they deserved to win.

[shnsajax]

Ochoa's head never got touched. He was fouled, but at least pretend to be hurt where you were hit.

[KaiserCesar]

Geiger got rushed by the Panama squad as soon as the whistle blew. Didn't really see what happened, but I wonder if any suspensions will come out of this.

[USSoccer]

Geiger got rushed by the Panama squad as soon as the whistle blew. Didn't really see what happened, but I wonder if any suspensions will come out of this.

 

Probably. But Panama had every right to rush him. CONCACAF isn't even pretending to be subtle about rigging it for Mexico to at least get to the final. They want that US v Mexico playoff money.

[shnsajax]

Well Mexico is [expletive] their shorts and a 16 year old NYRB II player named Tyler something lit Chelsea the [expletive] up so there are still good things about soccer.

 

Born in 1999. We are soon going to have professionals born in the 2000's. Actually we probably already do.

[Banedon]

He appeals to all the worst insecurities of the U.S. Soccer community

 

Can you explain what you mean here?

He's a big name, he's a global legend, he gets coaches like Joachim Lowe to say things like "the U.S. are becoming really dangerous" when in reality we're as dangerous as we've been for 13 years but because people pay attention to Jurgen, they're paying attention to the U.S. He says the right things about playing attacking soccer, developing players to play at the highest level in Europe and overhauling the youth development system to be like it is in Germany and other "real" soccer countries. In reality after playing for some of the biggest clubs Americans have ever played at, his regime has seen a mass migration to MLS rather than the stated desire for their players to be in the champions league.

 

The reality is that the teams he coaches are more conservative and have less flair than any teams under Bradley and Arena. Him being famous and winning a World Cup doesn't make any of our players famous. The Sunil Gulati's who want to make money and amass credibility and power through celebrity, the fans who love big clubs in Europe or just want US players with higher FIFA scores all coveted Jurgen for years because he was glamorous, European soccer royalty regardless of the ample evidence that he wasn't actually a good coach. Bob Bradley wasn't sexy. Bruce Arena wasn't sexy. That's true, but their teams were prepared and played to their strengths. They delivered on their expectations. Jurgen just doesn't.

 

Thanks for taking the time to explain. I appreciate it.

[Banedon]

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[wolf stansson]

Well Mexico is [expletive] their shorts and a 16 year old NYRB II player named Tyler something lit Chelsea the [expletive] up so there are still good things about soccer.

 

Born in 1999. We are soon going to have professionals born in the 2000's. Actually we probably already do.

Here's what it looks like when a kid scores against Chelsea:

http://www.newyorkredbulls.com/post/2015/07/23/goal-tyler-adams-heads-cross-castellanos?autoplay=true

 

That's so cool. Brian Dunseth was raving about his whole performance on twitter. I haven't seen anything other than this, but apparently he's one to watch.

you have a World Cup winning German come in and start talking about how our mentality sucks and MLS sucks and all our players need to be in Europe, that got everyone half-hard.

This is so key. Been thinking about it today. Player development cannot be a national program. It just can't. Even in small countries it has to be at the local level, let alone our giant country. That's what we've largely had up until a few years ago with Bradenton and no MLS academies. Player development has to come at the professional club level. Unless you're a dual national or a kid with an EU/Mexican/South American passport, that means MLS. Having disdain for the only mechanism through which US Soccer becomes elite is the dumbest part of Klinsmann's approach. Even dumber than taking the best passer (MB) and turning him into the midfield runner. Even dumber than letting your ego affect player selection.

 

The club is where these players spend most of their time. Thank god MLS clubs are starting to see real dividends on and off the field from investing in their academies or we'd never move forward. Not only is Klinsmann pushing it at the youth level, he's pushing it at the senior level. That's why John Brooks and Ventura Alvarado are playing and Omar Gonzalez and Matt Besler are way better players. Because they're 22 and "the future" even though Besler and O have at least one more cycle in them.

[wolf stansson]

Interesting read about the modern game: http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/07/the-soccer-revolution-is-here-are-you-ready

[shnsajax]

2018 qualifying groups.

USA, T&T, St. Vincent/Aruba, Antigua/Guatamala

 

The interesting group

Costa Rica, Panama, Haiti/Grenada, Jamaica/Nicaragua

 

Mexico, Honduras, Canada, El Salvador

[wolf stansson]

Deuce now has the most non-PK goals in USS history. Good thing he scored because the pursuit of LD is pretty much the only thing this game is good for.

 

I love this man. His effort in this stupid game shows everything that has made him great.

[wolf stansson]

I want to do to this third place game what the great one did to John Terry today.

https://t.co/iHGAH9bzsa

 

Zlatan forearm shiver.

[USSoccer]

Sunil Gulati is going to let his grade school crush on JK sink both of them. Ridiculous.

[Guest]

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[wolf stansson]

Pirlo has initiated two counter goals with eviscerating deep passes in four minutes. 4-2 NYC in a very fun game.

 

The way he puts every pass on the receiver's strong foot, in-stride never stops being amazing.

[wolf stansson]

Mix has looked terrific at left mid in the diamond.

 

5-3. This game was a blast.