Mariotti extended

[Banedon]

Only baseball related in that he often writes irritating baseball articles, but I figured it was significant enough to post here.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/output/sports/cst-spt-jaybx01.html

 

Extended through 2009...guess him and the Sun-Times kissed and made up.

[CubsBullsBears]

AL RIGHT!!

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I prefer the term extensioned. The title should be "Mariotti extensioned".

[Derwood]

Mariotti doesn't bother me nearly as much as the rest of you. He's actually one of the more entertaining guys on Around the Horn. He's no better or worse than most of the other Sports Editorial guys around the country

[Banedon]

Mariotti doesn't bother me nearly as much as the rest of you. He's actually one of the more entertaining guys on Around the Horn. He's no better or worse than most of the other Sports Editorial guys around the country

 

Lets say the Cubs sign a baseball player that stinks (I know...real stretch...work with me). Would you settle for the argument "He's no worse that X bad player or Y bad player"??

 

I guess the fact that other sports editorial guys around the country aren't worth reading or listening to doesn't mean that Mariotti is worth reading or listening to...for me anyway.

 

Part of the reason I'm so active on these boards is for much more informed opinion.

[Balsa]

Gross.

[InconspicuousZ28]

Only baseball related in that he often writes irritating baseball articles, but I figured it was significant enough to post here.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/output/sports/cst-spt-jaybx01.html

 

Extended through 2009...guess him and the Sun-Times kissed and made up.

 

What was the conflict between he and the Sun-Times, anyway? Guess I must have missed that.....

[Banedon]

Only baseball related in that he often writes irritating baseball articles, but I figured it was significant enough to post here.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/output/sports/cst-spt-jaybx01.html

 

Extended through 2009...guess him and the Sun-Times kissed and made up.

 

What was the conflict between he and the Sun-Times, anyway? Guess I must have missed that.....

 

He accused the Sun-Times of not defending him when Ozzie Guillen made his verbal tirade against Mariotti.

[CubsBullsBears]

BRILLIANT!! His first columm in a month and he rips the White Sox. While it was nice to see him rip the White Sox, he raises a good point in his columm:

 

I'm confused. Didn't Williams say just days ago that he was going for the jugular again, that he'd be willing to relinquish a piece of the future and win ''the 2008 championship in 2006,'' that glory windows tend to shut quickly, as seen in Boston last year? Then why, suddenly, did a chat with his players change a guts-out philosophy that has worked so well? Clearly, this is no time for a stubborn streak on the trophy side of town, no time for a brash and successful dealmaker to go limp at the trade deadline.

 

It's stunning that Williams, despite his weekend pledge of allegiance to his current roster, didn't respond to the aggressive work of the New York Yankees with his own buzzer-beating maneuver. Whether it's Brian Cashman working in the spirit of George Steinbrenner or, more likely, Steinbrenner pushing all the buttons from the Boss Cave, the Yankees assumed the role as American League favorites by adding Bobby Abreu to an explosive batting order, Cory Lidle to the shaky end of a rotation and Craig Wilson to the bench.

 

More importantly, while Williams admires his roster, the Yankees have gained a surge of momentum from the deals. The Sox have three unreliable starters in a once-golden rotation, with Mark Buehrle performing like an overused burnout and Javier Vazquez as sure to shut down in mid-game as the beer pumps. The bullpen is iffy in spots and needs more help than Mike MacDougal. As for Williams' decision to break off talks for Alfonso Soriano, answer this: Why would he offer Scott Podsednik in such a deal, as reported, but refuse to part with Brandon McCarthy? If the kid pitcher is so precious, why not yank Vazquez and put him in the rotation right now?

 

Here is the rest of the article: http://www.suntimes.com/output/mariotti/cst-spt-jay01.html

 

And I would agree, why isn't McCarthy in the rotation if he is so valued?? I mean Liriano spent about what 4-6 weeks in the pen before joining the rotation, why don't they put McCarthy in?? Even if he struggles, you're better off w/ a young guy getting an ass-whuppon than some unproductive veteren getting the ass-whuppon.

[Flames24Rulz]

BRILLIANT!! His first columm in a month and he rips the White Sox. While it was nice to see him rip the White Sox, he raises a good point in his columm:

 

I'm confused. Didn't Williams say just days ago that he was going for the jugular again, that he'd be willing to relinquish a piece of the future and win ''the 2008 championship in 2006,'' that glory windows tend to shut quickly, as seen in Boston last year? Then why, suddenly, did a chat with his players change a guts-out philosophy that has worked so well? Clearly, this is no time for a stubborn streak on the trophy side of town, no time for a brash and successful dealmaker to go limp at the trade deadline.

 

It's stunning that Williams, despite his weekend pledge of allegiance to his current roster, didn't respond to the aggressive work of the New York Yankees with his own buzzer-beating maneuver. Whether it's Brian Cashman working in the spirit of George Steinbrenner or, more likely, Steinbrenner pushing all the buttons from the Boss Cave, the Yankees assumed the role as American League favorites by adding Bobby Abreu to an explosive batting order, Cory Lidle to the shaky end of a rotation and Craig Wilson to the bench.

 

More importantly, while Williams admires his roster, the Yankees have gained a surge of momentum from the deals. The Sox have three unreliable starters in a once-golden rotation, with Mark Buehrle performing like an overused burnout and Javier Vazquez as sure to shut down in mid-game as the beer pumps. The bullpen is iffy in spots and needs more help than Mike MacDougal. As for Williams' decision to break off talks for Alfonso Soriano, answer this: Why would he offer Scott Podsednik in such a deal, as reported, but refuse to part with Brandon McCarthy? If the kid pitcher is so precious, why not yank Vazquez and put him in the rotation right now?

 

Here is the rest of the article: http://www.suntimes.com/output/mariotti/cst-spt-jay01.html

 

And I would agree, why isn't McCarthy in the rotation if he is so valued?? I mean Liriano spent about what 4-6 weeks in the pen before joining the rotation, why don't they put McCarthy in?? Even if he struggles, you're better off w/ a young guy getting an ass-whuppon than some unproductive veteren getting the ass-whuppon.

 

The answer is simple. The Sox invested one of, if not, their best prospect in Chris Young, as well as Luis Vizcaino for Vazquez...they are paying the guy over $10 million this year to be a starter, not a reliever. A $10 million reliever? Yeah, that's basically saying how crappy the move really was.

 

The Twins had holes in their rotation...besides Santana and Radke, their rotation was pretty crappy coming into this season. It was pretty simple to insert Liriano into the rotation. With McCarthy, he's pitched in the bullpen the entire year this year and his arm isn't stretched out. You just can't insert him in the middle of the season and say, "Oh go out there and give me 7 innings." The White Sox bullpen has been overtaxed the last week or so too from what I have heard, so inserting a rookie into the rotation, who can go at most 4 innings, isn't the most brilliant idea in the world.

 

Finally, I don't blame Williams for not giving up McCarthy. Bowden's asking price was pretty ridiculous...he declined a pretty nice deal from the Angels and his asking price for Soriano didn't go the slightest bit down when teams made it clear they weren't going to give up their top or 2nd best prospect to get a 2 month rental.

 

What ol' Jay is forgetting is the Sox stayed quiet at the deadline last year even though they were rumored to add AJ Burnett/Jason Schmidt/Ken Griffey Jr. I think they ended up alright. They have some holes at SP, but like I said, you can't put McCarthy in this late in the season. Zito wasn't really available, Williams doesn't have a good relationship with Boras, and Jason Schmidt wasn't available. The Sox didn't really need to make a move on offense as they've been able to score runs the entire year.

 

As you can see, I love disagreeing with Moronotti and I'll do everything to prove his point(s) wrong :P

[Ding Dong Johnson]

The answer is simple. The Sox invested one of, if not, their best prospect in Chris Young, as well as Luis Vizcaino for Vazquez...they are paying the guy over $10 million this year to be a starter, not a reliever. A $10 million reliever? Yeah, that's basically saying how crappy the move really was.

 

His contract isn't quite that bad from the Sox perspective. He was due $24M for this season and next. The Yankees picked up $9M and the D-Backs another $5M. He's still an expensive reliever, but only at $5M per year.

[soccer10k]

At least Mariotti is thinking for himself, unlike the Tribune columnists. I'm not saying he is correct in his thoughts, but at least he is forming his own conclusions and is not having his articles written for him by the paper/owner.

[Banedon]

I tried to send him an email to argue against his Piniella article this morning, but got "recipient name is not recognized" undeliverable message from the suntimes email server.... :roll:

[CubsBullsBears]

At least Mariotti is thinking for himself, unlike the Tribune columnists. I'm not saying he is correct in his thoughts, but at least he is forming his own conclusions and is not having his articles written for him by the paper/owner.

That's what's so great about Mariotti. He doesn't care what other people say!