a new favorite baker quote

[abuck1220]

Rich Hill will be called up from Triple-A Iowa on Thursday to face St. Louis right-hander Jeff Weaver. Whether Hill can stick in the rotation is unknown.

 

"It's on him, man," Baker said. "We give people opportunities, and it's up to them to seize that opportunity. Usually we don't make snap judgments on opportunities, unless the guy is just stinking up the place so bad you can't help it.

 

awesome.

[Drew Doughty]

he's mentally blocked the name Michael Wuertz. and...you know...rich hill.

[CUBZ99]

Sounds to me like he is saying that as long as Rich Hill doesn't pull a Glendon Rusch, he will stick in the rotation.

 

What part of Hill's 9.31 ERA this year and 9.13 ERA last year wasn't "stinking it up"?

 

I'm glad Hill is getting another shot, but I agree with Dusty that Hill has got to start showing something. A 9.00+ ERA is beyond terrible.

[abuck1220]

i'm not trying to turn this into another hill debate. i was focusing more on the "we don't make snap judgments" line, which is exactly opposite the truth.

[TruffleShuffle]

i'm not trying to turn this into another hill debate. i was focusing more on the "we don't make snap judgments" line, which is exactly opposite the truth.

 

Yeah, Wuertz had an ERA+ over 100 each of the last two years, and then has to languish in the minors most of this season.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

i'm not trying to turn this into another hill debate. i was focusing more on the "we don't make snap judgments" line, which is exactly opposite the truth.

 

"Usually we don't make snap judgments on opportunities, unless the guy is just stinking up the place so bad you can't help it."

 

So without even recognizing it, he is saying that they are not going to give players opportunities. If they feel there is a possibility that a player deserves an opportunity then at that point Baker and company will confer amongst each other and decide if the opportunity will be granted.

 

So I'm assuming he meant to say.........

 

Usually we don't make snap judgments with players we have granted opportunities, unless the guy is just stinking up the place so bad you can't help it.

 

So what he meant to say is false and beyond that he was unable to correctly convey that erroneous statement.

[texascub]

i'm not trying to turn this into another hill debate. i was focusing more on the "we don't make snap judgments" line, which is exactly opposite the truth.

 

Yeah, Wuertz had an ERA+ over 100 each of the last two years, and then has to languish in the minors most of this season.

 

I vaguely understand how ERA+ works but I've never really seen it in use; would an ERA+ of 100 be good or bad?

[jjgman21]

i'm not trying to turn this into another hill debate. i was focusing more on the "we don't make snap judgments" line, which is exactly opposite the truth.

 

Yeah, Wuertz had an ERA+ over 100 each of the last two years, and then has to languish in the minors most of this season.

 

I vaguely understand how ERA+ works but I've never really seen it in use; would an ERA+ of 100 be good or bad?

 

100 would be park and league adjusted dead on average.

[Careless]

i'm not trying to turn this into another hill debate. i was focusing more on the "we don't make snap judgments" line, which is exactly opposite the truth.

 

Yeah, Wuertz had an ERA+ over 100 each of the last two years, and then has to languish in the minors most of this season.

 

I vaguely understand how ERA+ works but I've never really seen it in use; would an ERA+ of 100 be good or bad?

 

100 would be park and league adjusted dead on average.

(higher is better)

[Andy]

Absurd. Dusty routinely either makes snap judgments (Wuertz, Hill, etc.) or doesn't play a guy enough to make a judgment at all (Theriot, Guzman, etc.)

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Absurd. Dusty routinely either makes snap judgments (Wuertz, Hill, etc.) or doesn't play a guy enough to make a judgment at all (Theriot, Guzman, etc.)

 

Add Restovich to your second list. He just sat on the bench with the Cubs and is doing well at Iowa. He hit his 17th HR tonight.

[NorthsideAvenger]

i'm not trying to turn this into another hill debate. i was focusing more on the "we don't make snap judgments" line, which is exactly opposite the truth.

 

Yeah, Wuertz had an ERA+ over 100 each of the last two years, and then has to languish in the minors most of this season.

 

Better for Wuertz: Reliever Michael Wuertz has given up a pair of unearned runs and 1 hit over 2º innings since his return from the minor leagues Sunday.

 

“His velocity’s back up,” manager Dusty Baker said. “When he left, he was like 87-88 (mph) or an occasional 90s. Now, it looks like his velocity is 90-92 pretty consistently. Therefore, that velocity will help the deception on his slider.

 

This is from Bruce Miles most recent article. So if Wuertz was throwing 87-88 mph, the first time around, it could be a case of "tired arm" or some kind of injury that the Cubs felt was better for Wuertz to stay at AAA, instead of the MLB. If that is the case, then keeping Wuertz down at AAA until his velocity returns, is ONE smart move the Cubs have done, this year. I figure, Wuertz is up to stay, this time around, unless he hangs out with Glendon too much.

[Tracer Bullet]

Absurd. Dusty routinely either makes snap judgments (Wuertz, Hill, etc.) or doesn't play a guy enough to make a judgment at all (Theriot, Guzman, etc.)

 

Add Restovich to your second list. He just sat on the bench with the Cubs and is doing well at Iowa. He hit his 17th HR tonight.

 

Add Hill to your second list too. 43 IP tells you nothing about a player's ability at the ML level (good or bad).

[Warren Brusstar]

i'm not trying to turn this into another hill debate. i was focusing more on the "we don't make snap judgments" line, which is exactly opposite the truth.

 

Yeah, Wuertz had an ERA+ over 100 each of the last two years, and then has to languish in the minors most of this season.

 

Better for Wuertz: Reliever Michael Wuertz has given up a pair of unearned runs and 1 hit over 2º innings since his return from the minor leagues Sunday.

 

“His velocity’s back up,” manager Dusty Baker said. “When he left, he was like 87-88 (mph) or an occasional 90s. Now, it looks like his velocity is 90-92 pretty consistently. Therefore, that velocity will help the deception on his slider.

 

This is from Bruce Miles most recent article. So if Wuertz was throwing 87-88 mph, the first time around, it could be a case of "tired arm" or some kind of injury that the Cubs felt was better for Wuertz to stay at AAA, instead of the MLB. If that is the case, then keeping Wuertz down at AAA until his velocity returns, is ONE smart move the Cubs have done, this year. I figure, Wuertz is up to stay, this time around, unless he hangs out with Glendon too much.

 

Except that Wuertz's utter dominance at Triple A belies any notion that he's just now getting his velocity back.

[cubsjunky95]

I think Hill suffers from Mark Prioritis. How can he be a pitcher who has a 1.80 ERA with 135 K in 100 IP with 21 BB's in the minors then a 9.13 ERA in the majors. He has the stuff his problem is between the ears.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Mark Prioritis? Wow.

[rocket]

I think Hill suffers from Mark Prioritis. How can he be a pitcher who has a 1.80 ERA with 135 K in 100 IP with 21 BB's in the minors then a 9.13 ERA in the majors. He has the stuff his problem is between the ears.

 

hopefully he suffers from mark prioritis and goes 18-6 with 245 K, 50 BB, 2.43 ERA in 211.1 IP next season

[badger1679666666]

I think Hill suffers from Mark Prioritis. How can he be a pitcher who has a 1.80 ERA with 135 K in 100 IP with 21 BB's in the minors then a 9.13 ERA in the majors. He has the stuff his problem is between the ears.

 

If that's going 18-6 with a sub 3 era and 244 K's in your first full season in the big leagues, I hope everyone gets Mark Prioritis.

[YearofDaCubs]

I think Hill suffers from Mark Prioritis. How can he be a pitcher who has a 1.80 ERA with 135 K in 100 IP with 21 BB's in the minors then a 9.13 ERA in the majors. He has the stuff his problem is between the ears.

 

hopefully he suffers from mark prioritis and goes 18-6 with 245 K, 50 BB, 2.43 ERA in 211.1 IP next season

That was a long time ago...

[bhogg]

I think Hill suffers from Mark Prioritis. How can he be a pitcher who has a 1.80 ERA with 135 K in 100 IP with 21 BB's in the minors then a 9.13 ERA in the majors. He has the stuff his problem is between the ears.

 

hopefully he suffers from mark prioritis and goes 18-6 with 245 K, 50 BB, 2.43 ERA in 211.1 IP next season

That was a long time ago...

 

 

 

in a galaxy and / or reality far, far away

[CubColtPacer]

The funny thing is that Prior actually had a pretty good season last year-166 innings, 11-7, 3.67 ERA, 1.21 WHIP. Not Prior 2003 numbers, but still a solid #2 numbers for Prior last year. This year? Well, uh-not so much so far-I think his ERA should have come down at least a half a point today though.

[Chris]

Is that quote from the same Baker that ripped on making excuses?