How is this possible? (Novoa)

[otis89]

Novoa's pathetic 5.19 ERA is better than it should be. I just noticed that none of the runs he gave up against the Mets were earned. He gave up a home run. Shouldn't that be earned?

[snoodmonger]

Walker's errors would have been the 2nd and 3rd outs in that inning, so anything after Walker's 2nd error is an unearned run. If the Novoa GS came after that 2nd error, that would explain it. (I can't remember the chronology.)

[Hosak8]

Walker's errors would have been the 2nd and 3rd outs in that inning, so anything after Walker's 2nd error is an unearned run. If the Novoa GS came after that 2nd error, that would explain it. (I can't remember the chronology.)

 

3 of the runs in Floyd's GS were Marshall's.

[fromthestretch]

Walker's errors would have been the 2nd and 3rd outs in that inning, so anything after Walker's 2nd error is an unearned run. If the Novoa GS came after that 2nd error, that would explain it. (I can't remember the chronology.)

 

Looking over the recap, this is correct. However, it is possible for runs to be unearned for the team but earned to the pitcher, especially in a situation like this.

 

In this situation, when Novoa came into the inning there was one out. With Marshall on the mound, Walker had already made an error, which would have been the second out. However, that only effects Marshalls earned/unearned runs, not Novoa's. Novoa inherits a one-out situation. That first error has no bearing on what the numbers of outs are supposed to be when he comes in. However, before he allows another run to score, Walker makes a second error, which as far as Novoa's stat line is concerned, would be the second out. Then they got a force at home, for what should have been the third out. After that, the flood gates opened.

 

Now, had he allowed runs before that force at home, those would have been earned to Novoa but unearned to the team.

[otis89]

Walker's errors would have been the 2nd and 3rd outs in that inning, so anything after Walker's 2nd error is an unearned run. If the Novoa GS came after that 2nd error, that would explain it. (I can't remember the chronology.)

 

3 of the runs in Floyd's GS were Marshall's.

 

Actually, all 4 of them were Marshall's. Marshall gave up the first grand slam.