Grimsley

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I think it's really bad for the game now, but terrific for the future of MLB.

[Derwood]

I think it will be great if we actually see a leaked list of everyone he says is on it. Could you imagine? Grimsley would have to enter the witness protection program.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I think it will be great if we actually see a leaked list of everyone he says is on it. Could you imagine? Grimsley would have to enter the witness protection program.

 

If that happens, I honestly believe he would wind up dead in a hotel room somewhere.

[goonys evil twin]

I think it will be great if we actually see a leaked list of everyone he says is on it. Could you imagine? Grimsley would have to enter the witness protection program.

 

If that happens, I honestly believe he would wind up dead in a hotel room somewhere.

 

We're talking about baseball players, not tough guys. This isn't the mob.

[Banedon]

I think it will be great if we actually see a leaked list of everyone he says is on it. Could you imagine? Grimsley would have to enter the witness protection program.

 

If that happens, I honestly believe he would wind up dead in a hotel room somewhere.

 

We're talking about baseball players, not tough guys. This isn't the mob.

 

Well they were gonna use a baseball bat to whack him.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I think it will be great if we actually see a leaked list of everyone he says is on it. Could you imagine? Grimsley would have to enter the witness protection program.

 

If that happens, I honestly believe he would wind up dead in a hotel room somewhere.

 

We're talking about baseball players, not tough guys. This isn't the mob.

 

Are they really that dissimilar?

[The Voice of Reason]

Anyone think Sosa or Clemens was one of the players Grimsley named?

 

Excerpt from Smokinggun.

 

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html

 

 

Pitcher Spills Steroid, Speed Secrets

Diamondback Jason Grimsley's home raided in federal drug probe

JUNE 7--Federal agents yesterday raided the Arizona home of a journeyman baseball pitcher who reportedly admitted using performance enhancing drugs and gave investigators the names of current and former major leaguers who have also juiced. Jason Grimsley, an Arizona Diamondbacks pitcher, began cooperating with probers after he accepted a $3200 shipment of human growth hormone at his Scottsdale residence on April 19 (the HGH was delivered to Grimsley, 38, by an undercover postal inspector). After a week's cooperation, Grimsley's lawyer stopped his chats with the government team, which included Internal Revenue Service agent Jeff Novitzky, who has headed the steroid investigation of Barry Bonds and other clients of San Francisco's BALCO laboratory. Below you'll find a copy of Novitzky's search warrant affidavit for Grimsley's home, which was unsealed yesterday in U.S. District Court in Phoenix. During his brief cooperation, Grimsley fingered several fellow athletes (whose names were redacted from the affidavit), spoke about the prevalence of amphetamines in baseball clubhouses, and claimed that "Latin players" were a major source of speed in the big leagues. He also said players on California-based teams would go to Mexico and score amphetamines. Grimsley's remarkable admissions span about seven pages in the Novitzky affidavit. Grimsley, a 15-year veteran, has played for seven teams, including the New York Yankees and Cleveland Indians. His teammates have included Sammy Sosa, Rafael Palmeiro, Jose Canseco, and Roger Clemens. (20 pages)

[Ding Dong Johnson]

From what I have heard, there are over 100 names blacked out in the report (I haven't actually seen it). I'm sure there are some big names there.

[jkrapfl]

From what I have heard, there are over 100 names blacked out in the report (I haven't actually seen it). I'm sure there are some big names there.

 

Go to the Smoking Gun site (link above) and you can see the whole report. There are a lot of names blacked out, but it looks like the same names could be repeated quite a bit, so who knows how many unique names there are.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

From what I have heard, there are over 100 names blacked out in the report (I haven't actually seen it). I'm sure there are some big names there.

 

Go to the Smoking Gun site (link above) and you can see the whole report. There are a lot of names blacked out, but it looks like the same names could be repeated quite a bit, so who knows how many unique names there are.

 

Hmm, there certainly doesn't look to be over 100 names there. Then again, I believe it was Boers or Bernstein that made the 100+ comment.

[ZMovieman]

Dan Patrick mentioned that he had heard of 3 names on the list, but obviously couldn't say yet. He did however say that one shocked him, one slightly shocked him, and the other wasn't a surprise.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Dan Patrick mentioned that he had heard of 3 names on the list, but obviously couldn't say yet. He did however say that one shocked him, one slightly shocked him, and the other wasn't a surprise.

 

Juan Pierre, Albert Pujols, Rafael Palmeiro

[AR-Baseball-Fan]

Dan Patrick mentioned that he had heard of 3 names on the list, but obviously couldn't say yet. He did however say that one shocked him, one slightly shocked him, and the other wasn't a surprise.

 

Juan Pierre, Albert Pujols, Rafael Palmeiro

 

There will never be any evidence of performance enhancing on the part of Juan. He would have to have performance first. :lol:

[Marco4]

There will never be any evidence of performance enhancing on the part of Juan. He would have to have performance first. :lol:

 

Have you not seen how fast that guy jogs back to the dugout after failing to get on base?

[soccer10k]

I give it a month before a name gets leaked. Maybe two months. Something will come out, it's all a matter of time - just like Jason Giambi's grand jury testimony.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Dan Patrick mentioned that he had heard of 3 names on the list, but obviously couldn't say yet. He did however say that one shocked him, one slightly shocked him, and the other wasn't a surprise.

 

Juan Pierre, Albert Pujols, Rafael Palmeiro

 

There will never be any evidence of performance enhancing on the part of Juan. He would have to have performance first. :lol:

 

Well, if one "shocked him", it would almost have to be a player of that caliber. Unless Dan Patrick is more naive than any of us thought.

[Banedon]

Dan Patrick mentioned that he had heard of 3 names on the list, but obviously couldn't say yet. He did however say that one shocked him, one slightly shocked him, and the other wasn't a surprise.

 

I'll say Pujols shocked him, Gagne slightly shocked him, and Sosa wasn't a surprise.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Dan Patrick mentioned that he had heard of 3 names on the list, but obviously couldn't say yet. He did however say that one shocked him, one slightly shocked him, and the other wasn't a surprise.

 

I'll say Pujols shocked him, Gagne slightly shocked him, and Sosa wasn't a surprise.

 

You really think anyone would be "shocked" by Pujols? Or am I that jaded on this subject? I could see more people than not saying he was the one that came as no surprise.

[Derwood]

I'd say the one that really shocked him his Pierre, the one that sort of shocked him was Neifi, and the one that didn't was Jock

[BeerHere]

My guesses:

 

No surprise - Bonds, Giambi, McGwire or Sosa

 

Surprise - leaning toward a pitcher, I'll pick Schilling

 

Shocked - Pujols or Tori Hunter

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

My guesses:

 

No surprise - Bonds, Giambi, McGwire or Sosa

 

Surprise - leaning toward a pitcher, I'll pick Schilling

 

Shocked - Pujols or Tori Hunter

 

 

What about Luis Gonzalez as a "no surprise"?

[soccer10k]

My guesses:

 

No surprise - Bonds, Giambi, McGwire or Sosa

 

Surprise - leaning toward a pitcher, I'll pick Schilling

 

Shocked - Pujols or Tori Hunter

 

 

What about Luis Gonzalez as a "no surprise"?

 

That's a good one. Didn't think about him but he would qualify as a "no surprise".

[biittner77]

Does anyone else think he did a Hollywood blacklist thing and named people that they already knew about?

 

DA: "Tell us about your teammates that used steroids!"

 

Grimsley, "Well there's Lenny Dykstra, Ken Caminiti, and Raphael Palmeiro."

 

DA " Anyone else?"

 

Grimsley "There's Giambi and Sheffield"

[hardcorecubfan]

I think it will be great if we actually see a leaked list of everyone he says is on it. Could you imagine? Grimsley would have to enter the witness protection program.

He wouldn't want to be in that program it sucks.....Maybe I have said to much