Jason Grimsley admits to steroids

[minnesotacubsfan]

don't forget roger clemens.

 

and Julian Tavarez and Travis Harper and Jose Valverde

 

Gagne.

 

Are you guys being serious, or making fun. I really cannot tell.

 

My point is while not ignoring that usage exists, trying to speculate who did or didn't use is pointless because no one can tell.

 

I thought we were just tossing out frequently injured guys...I surely wasn't be serious.

 

 

I wouldnt be to surprised to find out gagne was on roids at least on point in his career

[Soul]

He added that amphetamine use was prevalent in pro baseball, and that it was placed in coffee in clubhouses -- marked "leaded" or "unleaded" to indicate which pots contained the drugs -- Novitsky wrote.

 

 

 

 

Cute.

 

 

That's the first I've heard of this one.

[Derwood]

Jason Grimsley: Yes, it's true, I did steroids.

 

The World: Um, who the hell is Jason Grimsley?

[TruffleShuffle]

If he used roids, they sure didn't work. He sucked.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

If he used roids, they sure didn't work. He sucked.

 

Maybe he used them backwards.

[Banedon]

If he used roids, they sure didn't work. He sucked.

 

Maybe he used them backwards.

 

Dr. Egon Spengler: It would be bad.

Dr. Peter Venkman: I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean "bad"?

Dr. Egon Spengler: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously, and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

Dr. Raymond Stantz: Total protonic reversal!

Dr. Peter Venkman: Right, that's bad. Okay, alright, important safety tip, thanks Egon.

[Big Fergie J]

Jason Grimsley: Yes, it's true, I did steroids.

 

The World: Um, who the hell is Jason Grimsley?

 

IIRC, Grimsley was the guy who snuck into the clubhouse at Comiskey and got Albert Belle's corked bat back.

 

Maybe he's a closet stalker as well as a juicer.

[Garwilly]

Jason Grimsley: Yes, it's true, I did steroids.

 

The World: Um, who the hell is Jason Grimsley?

 

IIRC, Grimsley was the guy who snuck into the clubhouse at Comiskey and got Albert Belle's corked bat back.

 

Maybe he's a closet stalker as well as a juicer.

 

 

Indeed, it was him.

[Big Fergie J]

Jason Grimsley: Yes, it's true, I did steroids.

 

The World: Um, who the hell is Jason Grimsley?

 

IIRC, Grimsley was the guy who snuck into the clubhouse at Comiskey and got Albert Belle's corked bat back.

 

Maybe he's a closet stalker as well as a juicer.

 

 

Indeed, it was him.

 

Ha...I thought so....so Grimsley knows how to crawl through a ventalation system and dispense steriods.....he would have done well working for the Nixon administration.

[OleMissCub]

Steve Buechele's mullet was on roids

[Chocolate Milk]

If he used roids, they sure didn't work. He sucked.

 

Career (may be incomplete) $9,848,000 

 

I'd say they got the job done.

[goonys evil twin]

If he used roids, they sure didn't work. He sucked.

 

Career (may be incomplete) $9,848,000 

 

I'd say they got the job done.

 

amen to that.

[windows]

The comments on amphetamine use don't really surprise me. It's been reported many times that amphetamines are easily available to and widely used by players.

 

I'm surprised by the reports that Grimsley could name a lot of supposed users of HGH, however. I can't help but wonder if he really knows it for a fact or if it's just a Canseco-esque thing of saying "hey, he's really playing well... he has to be using HGH!".

[CuseCubFan69]

don't forget roger clemens.

 

and Julian Tavarez and Travis Harper and Jose Valverde

 

Gagne.

 

Are you guys being serious, or making fun. I really cannot tell.

 

My point is while not ignoring that usage exists, trying to speculate who did or didn't use is pointless because no one can tell.

 

The players have a don't ask don't tell policy.

[Mark Priors Calves]

D'Backs released him today.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

D'Backs released him today.

 

There's a shocker.

[windows]

I bet Bud Selig wouldn't be too upset if Congress gets involved again. It wouldn't surprise me at all if a memo from Selig to Don Fehr calling for a ban on HGH and taking blood samples (even to store them for future testing) gets leaked to the media. And the threat of congressional involvement gives Selig a great excuse to write such a memo. Here's why.

 

The players union is thoroughly opposed to blood tests. HGH will have to be tested for with a blood test. If Selig calls for the players union to back down yet again and embarrasses Fehr by leaking the memo to the public, it's yet another victory from a PR standpoint for the owners over the players union. Fehr can't really fight too hard because Congress is still looming and would love to force legislation on MLB. He'd have little choice but to submit to what Selig calls for.

 

Why is embarrassing the players union such a big deal? It's pretty simple. In the past, there's been some dissent among the owners and they haven't presented an organized front. Historically, the players union has been more organized than the owners and has won the PR battles as well. However, making the players union look bad can only help to improve the position of the owners. And when it's time to negotiate a new CBA, the players union won't be in a good position to fight too hard lest they generate yet more negative press and look even worse. The owners will be at their strongest and the players union will be weaker.

 

It's no secret that Bud Selig and Don Fehr aren't the best of friends. I doubt that Selig would hesitate to embarrass Fehr again, particularly when the current CBA expires shortly.

[RynoRules]

D'Backs released him today.

 

Union's going to file a grievance and win in a walk. Retaliatory discharge at its finest.

[windows]

D'Backs released him today.

 

Union's going to file a grievance and win in a walk. Retaliatory discharge at its finest.

 

I highly doubt it.

 

Grimsley asked to be released.

[Banedon]

D'Backs released him today.

 

Union's going to file a grievance and win in a walk. Retaliatory discharge at its finest.

 

I highly doubt it.

 

Grimsley asked to be released.

 

Yep...he decided he was a "distraction" and is probably out of baseball according to his agent. My favorite part of the AP article was this...

 

Diamondbacks pitcher Terry Mulholland said Grimsley addressed his teammates after Tuesday's loss to the Philadelphia Phillies.

 

"He expressed to us that he had too much respect for to allow this to bring us down," Mulholland said. "He's that kind of guy."

 

Grimsley's locker in the calm clubhouse was empty when the room was opened to the media before Wednesday's game with the Phillies.

 

Riiiight...call me cynical, but I don't think this had anything to do with respect, or what a good guy he was, and everything to do with how he didn't want to face the media, and answer all those questions. Sounds like he took the cowards way out.

[TruffleShuffle]

If he used roids, they sure didn't work. He sucked.

 

Career (may be incomplete) $9,848,000 

 

I'd say they got the job done.

 

If you look at his career stats, it wouldn't be surprising if he started using them in 1998. For most of his major league career from 1989-1996 he was a bum, and had an ERA over 6.00 each of his last two years with Cleveland. Then in pitched in the minors in 1997, getting released by one team and putting up an ERA around 6.00 for the year. Then in 1998, he pitched for AAA Buffalo and had an ERA under 4.00. From 1999-2005 he was in the big leagues, and his ERA+ was average to above-average for 6 of those 7 years (only 2005 was a very bad year).

 

So I guess if he started using in the late '90s, then they really did work.

[TruffleShuffle]

Riiiight...call me cynical, but I don't think this had anything to do with respect, or what a good guy he was, and everything to do with how he didn't want to face the media, and answer all those questions. Sounds like he took the cowards way out.

 

I don't think it has anything to do with the media. I think it's more an issue of not wanting to be around other baseball players. Remember, he just gave a bunch of names of users to the feds - some of which may be current teammates. Even if he didn't name any teammates, I would imagine there are probably some guys who'd be pissed that he ratted on fellow players.

 

I'd imagine that getting caught with HGH is an offense that could get him sent to jail, and his options were prison, or cooperate and tell what he knows.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

don't forget roger clemens.

 

and Julian Tavarez and Travis Harper and Jose Valverde

 

Gagne.

 

Are you guys being serious, or making fun. I really cannot tell.

 

My point is while not ignoring that usage exists, trying to speculate who did or didn't use is pointless because no one can tell.

 

What do you suggest be done? I agree that aimless fingering pointing is not the answer, but what is the solution?

 

I was mainly trying to get the aimless finger pointing to stop.

[Banedon]

Riiiight...call me cynical, but I don't think this had anything to do with respect, or what a good guy he was, and everything to do with how he didn't want to face the media, and answer all those questions. Sounds like he took the cowards way out.

 

I don't think it has anything to do with the media. I think it's more an issue of not wanting to be around other baseball players. Remember, he just gave a bunch of names of users to the feds - some of which may be current teammates. Even if he didn't name any teammates, I would imagine there are probably some guys who'd be pissed that he ratted on fellow players.

 

I'd imagine that getting caught with HGH is an offense that could get him sent to jail, and his options were prison, or cooperate and tell what he knows.

 

That's true too...but in any case, it was a way to run and hide.

[OleMissCub]

 

I'd imagine that getting caught with HGH is an offense that could get him sent to jail, and his options were prison, or cooperate and tell what he knows.

 

Indeed, I believe his brother has something to do with pharmaceutics and may have been involved with supplying the "goods" to him. They are both in deep doo-doo