5-6 Cubs (Marshall) @ Padres (Peavy) 9:05 CT WGN TV

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Lineups

 

Cubs

Pierre, CF

Cedeno, SS

Walker, 1B

Jones, RF

Ramirez, 3B

Murton, LF

Barrett, C

Hairston, 2B

Marshall, P

 

 

Dusty is trying to get fired! Yay!

 

Would you care to elaborate ? This seems like a pretty reasonable lineup to me.

 

I don't like Jacque batting cleanup, even with 3 good games in a row. Murton at 6 and Barrett at 7 seems a tad bit too low for my tastes.

[Shavo]

Lineups

 

Cubs

Pierre, CF

Cedeno, SS

Walker, 1B

Jones, RF

Ramirez, 3B

Murton, LF

Barrett, C

Hairston, 2B

Marshall, P

 

 

When I

 

Dusty is trying to get fired! Yay!

 

Would you care to elaborate ? This seems like a pretty reasonable lineup to me.

 

Jones cleanup? Murton batting 6th? Horrible!

[Fro]

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El Santo for the win tonight.

[SeldomSeen]

Fearless prediction: Marshall will dominate tonight- 6-1 Cubs.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Lineups

 

Cubs

Pierre, CF

Cedeno, SS

Walker, 1B

Jones, RF

Ramirez, 3B

Murton, LF

Barrett, C

Hairston, 2B

Marshall, P

 

 

Dusty is trying to get fired! Yay!

 

Would you care to elaborate ? This seems like a pretty reasonable lineup to me.

 

Jones cleanup? Murton batting 6th? Horrible!

 

I still say it looks quite reasonable.

 

04/21 - 05/05      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Jones              46    3   13    2    0    3   24    6    1    7  0.283  0.313  0.522  0.834
Murton             41    4   12    2    0    0   14    8    7    8  0.293  0.396  0.341  0.737
Ramirez            45    8    9    3    0    2   18    5    8    4  0.200  0.321  0.400  0.721

[ToupeeOnFire]

Lineups

 

Cubs

Pierre, CF

Cedeno, SS

Walker, 1B

Jones, RF

Ramirez, 3B

Murton, LF

Barrett, C

Hairston, 2B

Marshall, P

 

 

When I

 

Dusty is trying to get fired! Yay!

 

Would you care to elaborate ? This seems like a pretty reasonable lineup to me.

 

Jones cleanup? Murton batting 6th? Horrible!

Can't blame Dusty for batting Jock clean-up. He's mashing righties to the tune of .355/.579 (OBP/SLG). Frankly, I think this is the best possible line-up under the circumstances (this still doesn't forgive Dusty for starting Bynum in consecutive days and sitting both Murton and Cedeno yesterday).

[NewUserName]

I think ARam could sure be dropped down without me argueing. I kind of wonder why he is batting ahead of Murton and Barret. Jones is up to 250something, at this point is does seem more reasonable to bat him cleanup than ARam

[Shavo]

Lineups

 

Cubs

Pierre, CF

Cedeno, SS

Walker, 1B

Jones, RF

Ramirez, 3B

Murton, LF

Barrett, C

Hairston, 2B

Marshall, P

 

 

When I

 

Dusty is trying to get fired! Yay!

 

Would you care to elaborate ? This seems like a pretty reasonable lineup to me.

 

Jones cleanup? Murton batting 6th? Horrible!

Can't blame Dusty for batting Jock clean-up. He's mashing righties to the tune of .355/.579 (OBP/SLG). Frankly, I think this is the best possible line-up under the circumstances (this still doesn't forgive Dusty for starting Bynum in consecutive days and sitting both Murton and Cedeno yesterday).

 

I didn't realize Jones was hitting rightes THAT well. We really need a platoon partner for the man, though.

 

Murton batting 6th really steams me though. If anything, it should be Pierre, Cedeno, Walker, Jones, Murton, Barret, Ram, Hairston, Marshall.

[Guest]

Lineups

 

Cubs

Pierre, CF

Cedeno, SS

Walker, 1B

Jones, RF

Ramirez, 3B

Murton, LF

Barrett, C

Hairston, 2B

Marshall, P

 

 

Dusty is trying to get fired! Yay!

 

Would you care to elaborate ? This seems like a pretty reasonable lineup to me.

 

Jones cleanup? Murton batting 6th? Horrible!

 

I still say it looks quite reasonable.

 

04/21 - 05/05      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Jones              46    3   13    2    0    3   24    6    1    7  0.283  0.313  0.522  0.834
Murton             41    4   12    2    0    0   14    8    7    8  0.293  0.396  0.341  0.737
Ramirez            45    8    9    3    0    2   18    5    8    4  0.200  0.321  0.400  0.721

Two weeks, Fred. Two weeks.

[bc2k]

More marine layer in San Diego tonight (heh, what did you expect, it's May), meaning it's going to be near impossible to hit a HR.

 

What's marine layer?

[B]

More marine layer in San Diego tonight (heh, what did you expect, it's May), meaning it's going to be near impossible to hit a HR.

 

What's marine layer?

 

fog.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Two weeks, Fred. Two weeks.

 

BK.... are we trying to draw valid statistical inferences here ?? If so, then sample size is the only relavent question. But I don't think that's the point of this exercise, is it ?

[Guest]

Two weeks, Fred. Two weeks.

 

BK.... are we trying to draw valid statistical inferences here ?? If so, then sample size is the only relavent question. But I don't think that's the point of this exercise, is it ?

That's what I figured you were trying to do by posting some stats in defense of tonight's lineup.

[Mizzou]

Admittedly, my eyes looked like this: :shock: when I first saw that Jacque was hitting cleanup. But after thinking about it, with the way he's been hitting lately (especially against righties) and with Aramis playing like crap, I think it's a good move.

 

Besides, our offense has flat out sucked recently. You can't blame Dusty for switching the order up a bit.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Two weeks, Fred. Two weeks.

 

BK.... are we trying to draw valid statistical inferences here ?? If so, then sample size is the only relavent question. But I don't think that's the point of this exercise, is it ?

That's what I figured you were trying to do by posting some stats in defense of tonight's lineup.

 

Do you really think that the data from the first two weeks of the season has more predicitve value for tonight's game than the last 2 weeks ? Or maybe the combined 4 weeks has better predictive value bcause it's a larger sample size ?? The only conlcusion I drew was that tonight's lineup "looks quite reasonable". The data I presented demonstrates this. I'm really not sure why you seem to be confused.

[otis89]

Two weeks, Fred. Two weeks.

 

BK.... are we trying to draw valid statistical inferences here ?? If so, then sample size is the only relavent question. But I don't think that's the point of this exercise, is it ?

That's what I figured you were trying to do by posting some stats in defense of tonight's lineup.

 

Do you really think that the data from the first two weeks of the season has more predicitve value for tonight's game than the last 2 weeks ? Or maybe the combined 4 weeks has better predictive value bcause it's a larger sample size ?? The only conlcusion I drew was that tonight's lineup "looks quite reasonable". The data I presented demonstrates this. I'm really not sure why you seem to be confused.

 

You're using logic. People don't like it when you use logic to support your opinion.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Two weeks, Fred. Two weeks.

 

BK.... are we trying to draw valid statistical inferences here ?? If so, then sample size is the only relavent question. But I don't think that's the point of this exercise, is it ?

That's what I figured you were trying to do by posting some stats in defense of tonight's lineup.

 

Do you really think that the data from the first two weeks of the season has more predicitve value for tonight's game than the last 2 weeks ? Or maybe the combined 4 weeks has better predictive value bcause it's a larger sample size ?? The only conlcusion I drew was that tonight's lineup "looks quite reasonable". The data I presented demonstrates this. I'm really not sure why you seem to be confused.

 

You're using logic. People don't like it when you use logic to support your opinion.

 

Otis, as you get on in years, keep reminding yourself...... logic is your friend !! :wink:

[Shavo]

I'm just hoping Jaque doesn't take it upot himself to try to "prove" he deserves to bat 4th and go 0-5 with 4 K's, while trying to hit every pitch 700 feet.

[ToupeeOnFire]

Two weeks, Fred. Two weeks.

 

BK.... are we trying to draw valid statistical inferences here ?? If so, then sample size is the only relavent question. But I don't think that's the point of this exercise, is it ?

That's what I figured you were trying to do by posting some stats in defense of tonight's lineup.

Yet according to SABRnauts, line-up order is irrelevant.

 

PS: I am totally SABR-centric and I love your write-ups on the Cubs.

[Guest]

Two weeks, Fred. Two weeks.

 

BK.... are we trying to draw valid statistical inferences here ?? If so, then sample size is the only relavent question. But I don't think that's the point of this exercise, is it ?

That's what I figured you were trying to do by posting some stats in defense of tonight's lineup.

 

Do you really think that the data from the first two weeks of the season has more predicitve value for tonight's game than the last 2 weeks ? Or maybe the combined 4 weeks has better predictive value bcause it's a larger sample size ?? The only conlcusion I drew was that tonight's lineup "looks quite reasonable". The data I presented demonstrates this. I'm really not sure why you seem to be confused.

I'm not confused. I was just pointing out that the stats you presented were not substantive enough to warrant any conclusions being drawn from them. Since you seem to be admitting that such a limited data set has little predictive value I'm not sure why you posted them in the first place. (OK, so I am a little confused as to your motivations here. ;))

[CaliforniaRaisin]

More marine layer in San Diego tonight (heh, what did you expect, it's May), meaning it's going to be near impossible to hit a HR.

 

What's marine layer?

 

Cool, moist marine air that comes onshore in coastal California (mostly in the spring and fall). It normally brings with it low clouds and fog and sometimes even drizzle/light rain.

 

The cool air helps keeps flyballs that might otherwise be HRs stay in the ballpark.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Stupid Padres. Always trotting out their 1984 unis when the Cubs come to town for "Throwback Uniform" night.

[Chris]

We win

[Fred Hornkohl]

I'm not confused. I was just pointing out that the stats you presented were not substantive enough to warrant any conclusions being drawn from them. Since you seem to be admitting that such a limited data set has little predictive value I'm not sure why you posted them in the first place. (OK, so I am a little confused as to your motivations here. ;))

 

Those stats were sufficiently substantive to draw a conlcusion with regard to short term trends, and that's what I did. They were certainly not substantive enought to draw a logical statistical inference; that, I did not do. I know the difference between the two, and so do you !

[Bruce Miles]

Stupid Padres. Always trotting out their 1984 unis when the Cubs come to town for "Throwback Uniform" night.

 

Those aren't the '84 unis. They're Negro League replicas. They had a big tribute to the Negro Leagues before the game.