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Until he makes a number of starts in games that count, he's still injured.

 

He was cleared to throw today. Tomorrow he could be sore and not throwing again. It means nothing, and I wish the media would quit trumpeting every little thing that happens. All it does is get people's hopes up when really nothing has changed.

So he'll be injured even if he isn't?

 

And are you suggesting that the Cubs and the media should just stop giving us updates? I would think that a lot of people have interest in Prior's first step in coming back from this shoulder strain. I would also classify going from not throwing to throwing as a change.

 

The Cubs have sugarcoated EVERY injury in the last three years. We're supposed to believe all of a sudden he's healthy and pain free? He certainly didn't pitch that much to get hurt, what's to say the next time he gets to a mound, it doesn't start hurting again? You really think 10 days of rest time is gonna heal this injury, even when he was being pampered and coddled all spring?

 

I love Mark Prior, but if you're not skeptical with this team and how it treats injuries, you'll just keep getting fooled.

 

I won't believe he's healthy until he pitches to batters in his Minor League rehab starts.

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Until he makes a number of starts in games that count, he's still injured.

 

He was cleared to throw today. Tomorrow he could be sore and not throwing again. It means nothing, and I wish the media would quit trumpeting every little thing that happens. All it does is get people's hopes up when really nothing has changed.

So he'll be injured even if he isn't?

 

And are you suggesting that the Cubs and the media should just stop giving us updates? I would think that a lot of people have interest in Prior's first step in coming back from this shoulder strain. I would also classify going from not throwing to throwing as a change.

 

I'm suggesting he's injured until he takes the field in a game that matters, yes. I'm also suggesting until he strings a few starts together without going down again, he's not fully back.

 

I'm also suggesting we get off the hope train and deal in reality. A player is injured until he plays for real, in a game that counts. Not before. Being "cleared to pitch" means nothing. It's like being cleared to use crutches when you're in a cast. Whoop-de-do. Can you run the 100-yard dash yet? No? Talk to me when you're ready, son.

Mid-season form is not the same thing as healthy. He'll have to be healthy before he gets to that point.

 

That article is reporting on reality. He threw long toss. And he said he threw without pain. That's a step forward. And the quotes from Rothschild made it pretty clear that they're not dealing with the future but with what's going on right now. They have to see how he responds to this session and monitor it as he builds up strength. They're certainly not proclaiming him to be fully healthy or ready right now.

 

The Cubs have sugarcoated EVERY injury in the last three years. We're supposed to believe all of a sudden he's healthy and pain free? He certainly didn't pitch that much to get hurt, what's to say the next time he gets to a mound, it doesn't start hurting again? You really think 10 days of rest time is gonna heal this injury, even when he was being pampered and coddled all spring?

 

I love Mark Prior, but if you're not skeptical with this team and how it treats injuries, you'll just keep getting fooled.

 

I won't believe he's healthy until he pitches to batters in his Minor League rehab starts.

I don't think that's accurate at all. They didn't sugarcoat Wood's injury last year (although they may have been operating under a false assumption that it couldn't get worse) or his knee injury this spring. Or Prior's elbow fracture. The injuries to Fox, Walker, Aramis, Lee, etc. were all handled through the media just how you'd expect a team to handle them.

 

They certainly never claimed that Prior is healthy and they never claimed he was healed. Actually, O'Neal said the opposite:

"We'll see how he reacts and increase the activity as he tolerates," Cubs athletic trainer Mark O'Neal said. "It's not something we'll be aggressive with. We've tried to relate this with a hamstring [strain], and obviously it hasn't completely healed 100 percent. If you did an MRI, there'd be some inflammation in there. We have to be real careful and strengthen it as it's healing. I'm not going to put any time frames on this at all."

It's something they have to monitor while he's building up strength. There's still going to be inflammation and soreness, but that's what they have to manage as he progresses. And I don't see why it would be hard to believe that he threw a simple long toss session after 11 or so days of being shutdown after experiencing mild pain.

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In fairness to the Cubs and Prior, this is easily the quickest that one of Prior's arm issues has eased to the point where he can throw again. I'd expect him back by mid-May at the very latest.
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In fairness to the Cubs and Prior, this is easily the quickest that one of Prior's arm issues has eased to the point where he can throw again. I'd expect him back by mid-May at the very latest.

 

you forgot "barring any setback"

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