Walker for Soriano straight up?

[NCCubFan]

Okay.

 

Vidro, you're playing fifth base.

Where is that?

in OUTERRRR FIELLLD

 

DUN DUN DUNNNN

 

OUTER SPAAAACE

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[sonofsamiam]

It looks like he's right. Claiming Soriano is a marginal improvement over Todd is completely wrong; Todd is actually a marginal improvement over Soriano.

 

Then, take into account Soriano's .639 road OPS (sorry to beat a dead horse) and it seems even less marginal.

 

The only stat that really impresses me with Soriano is 30 steals with 2 times caught. But, since he has trouble getting on base, that's sort of canceled out.

[Gunned]

NSFW but hilarious

 

Very funny, but why did you say NSFW?

[noisesquared]

Walker for Soriano doesn't make sense since Walker's defense seems to be the main reason JH wants to trade him. Soriano is only a marginal improvement offensively at best and looking at his road splits is troubling. He just offers more speed, more HR power (which could dropoff significantly outside of Arlington) at the expense of the worst 2B defense in the majors and a whole lot of patience which is what this team really needs to improve.

 

People can critcize Soriano for lots of reasons (money, defense, attitude, etc.), but to say that Soriano is only a "marginal improvement offensively" over Walker is ridiculous. I like Walker, but he has to fight for a starting job every year while Soriano is making All-Star teams. Offensively, Soriano is Jeff Kent with speed.

 

Soriano

2004: 98 OPS+

2005: 110 OPS+

 

 

Walker

2004: 105 OPS+

2005: 115 OPS+

 

Which one is Walker, and which one is Soriano? Highlight to find out

 

Career 111 OPS+

 

Career 99 OPS+

 

Which one is 33 year old Walker, and which is 30 year old Soriano?

[ltb]

Career 111 OPS+

 

Career 99 OPS+

 

Which one is 33 year old Walker, and which is 30 year old Soriano?

 

and which one of those numbers is heavily weighted by 2002 and 2003, 2 years that player has not come close to matching, even in one of the best hitter's ballparks in baseball?

 

come on now. soriano has shown nothing but decline - walker is the more valuable player.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

NSFW but hilarious

 

Very funny, but why did you say NSFW?

 

Ballpark_Frank uses a little language, but that's all I could see.

[noisesquared]

Career 111 OPS+

 

Career 99 OPS+

 

Which one is 33 year old Walker, and which is 30 year old Soriano?

 

and which one of those numbers is heavily weighted by 2002 and 2003, 2 years that player has not come close to matching, even in one of the best hitter's ballparks in baseball?

 

come on now. soriano has shown nothing but decline - walker is the more valuable player.

 

I'm just saying that looking at the OPS+ numbers over the last 2 years may not be that complete of a comparison. Walker has only out-OPS+ Soriano's 2005 OPS+ numbers twice in his career, and last year Walker was helped by having only 433 PA. By looking at career trends and age, I'd say Soriano's more likely to put up a 110 OPS+ than Walker is next year.

[Gunned]

NSFW but hilarious

 

Very funny, but why did you say NSFW?

 

Ballpark_Frank uses a little language, but that's all I could see.

 

Yeah, I didn't click on it at work because of the tag -- but then got home and wondered why I waited. No biggie though.

[Derwood]

NSFW but hilarious

 

Very funny, but why did you say NSFW?

 

Ballpark_Frank uses a little language, but that's all I could see.

 

Yeah, I didn't click on it at work because of the tag -- but then got home and wondered why I waited. No biggie though.

 

many of the other "chats" have strong language so i figured better safe than sorry

[srbin84]

Don't forget what Soriano brings on the basepaths which is 30+ plus steals at 80% efficiency.

[CuseCubFan69]

I really don't know.

 

I know he has tools out of his ears, but that k/bb rate does worry me some.

 

However, each time I have seen him play this spring, I have come away very impressed...especially with his ability to hit the ball to the opposite field with power. I am going to the game tomorrow, so am hoping I can see him in person. I haven't seen him play in person since he was in low A.

 

As long as he isn't a tool between the ears.