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I think with a few notable exceptions, the Cubs have come up woefully short on converting 1st round picks into anything remotely useful, and to me that's more of a condemnation of their scouting/development than the late round picks
Health was a factor as well. Harkey, Dickson, and Wallace (after being traded) had promising careers ruined by injuries.
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Not to mention the scouting department has been overhauled a few times during that stretch.

 

Weren't there also some years where the Cubs had an extra first rounder and/or a sandwich pick?

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Not to mention the scouting department has been overhauled a few times during that stretch.

 

Weren't there also some years where the Cubs had an extra first rounder and/or a sandwich pick?

 

I didn't list sandwich picks. I just kept changing the date on baseball-almanac.com's 1st round draft lists.

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If we look since '95:

 

95-Kerry Wood - With team. Injury problem. Headache.

96-Todd Noel - Traded to Florida for Felix Heredia

97-Jon Garland - Traded to White Sox for Matt Karchner.

98-Corey Patterson - Traded to Baltimore for I Don't Remember Who.

99-Ben Christiansen - Injured a lot, plus a total tool.

00-Luis Montanez - Flamed out. Injuries?

01-Mark Prior - Increasingly injury prone in the preseason. Some bad luck injuries.

02-Bobby Brownlie - Injury problems, but predictable after coming off surgery pre-draft.

03-Ryan Harvey - Don't know

04-No Pick

05-Mark Pawalek - Too early to say.

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He went to a junior college before being drafted. He was highly touted but not that high as he was in the 80's or 90's when BA did their top 100 list before Pujols busted out in the majors.

 

Pujols played SS in JC, and naturally didn't scout very well there. Didn't have the arm, the speed, or the quickness. Like a lot of guys, he was a prospect with no clear defensive position ahead of him, and basically scored badly on three of the five scouting tools (speed, defense, throwing arm).

 

Still does, more or less.

 

But if you can hit like Pujols, the hitting tool trumps all.....

 

You basicaly nailed it however I would also like to add their were concerns about his weight and true age. He also had some weak battng sessions with scouts.

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He went to a junior college before being drafted. He was highly touted but not that high as he was in the 80's or 90's when BA did their top 100 list before Pujols busted out in the majors.

 

Pujols played SS in JC, and naturally didn't scout very well there. Didn't have the arm, the speed, or the quickness. Like a lot of guys, he was a prospect with no clear defensive position ahead of him, and basically scored badly on three of the five scouting tools (speed, defense, throwing arm).

 

Still does, more or less.

 

But if you can hit like Pujols, the hitting tool trumps all.....

 

You basicaly nailed it however I would also like to add their were concerns about his weight and true age. He also had some weak battng sessions with scouts.

 

i scout i talked to say he had scouted Pujols when he was in college. According to him, he was nothing like what he is now and he past up on him.

 

Needless to say, i think he regreted it.

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It would be interesting to look at a list from the Braves org. I bet it would be very, very long.

 

Your wish is my command...

 

1987-2005, Round 2 onwards

MLB career featuring ERA < 4.50 (min 150 IP) or OPS > .730 (min 500 PA)

 

Adam LaRoche (2000, 29th round)

Horacio Ramirez (1997, 5th round)

Marcus Giles (1996, 53rd round)

Wes Helms (1994, 10th round)

Kevin Millwood (1993, 11th round)

Jermaine Dye (1993, 17th round)

John Rocker (1993, 18th round)

Brad Clontz (1992, 10th round)

Jason Schmidt (1991, 8th round)

Tony Graffanino (1990, 10th round)

Ryan Klesko (1989, 5th round)

Turk Wendell (1988, 5th round)

Mark Wohlers (1988, 8th round)

Mike Stanton (1987, 13th round)

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