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I know Defense is the Cubs fetish this offseason, but I would've liked to see Millar in RF.

 

he wouldn't have been bad at all.

 

He's going to need to get back the power he lost last year. Without knowing if the power will return, especially at age 34, I'd rather have Jones. Now if the choice is Millar for one year vs. Jones for three, then it's a tighter decision.

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I know Defense is the Cubs fetish this offseason, but I would've liked to see Millar in RF.

 

I've watched Millar for 2 seasons now in Boston and from a personal standpoint I can't stand the guy, but most of that is just cause his "downhome country/redneck" act has worn thin to me. If you believe in "clubhouse chemistry" at all, he's certainly got the resume for that though and he has done an extremely good job in Boston of going out of his way to take pressure off other guys by sticking his nose out in the media when guys like Manny and Renteria are under fire. I think he could have been a big benefit to someone like Corey last year and perhaps he'll do that for the O's if Corey gets off to a bad start.

 

As far as baseball skills go, I think he's average in RF at best and probably a bit below average. He's really declined steadily from an offensive standpoint the past 2 seasons and on one hand I would worry about that as he's getting into his mid 30's, while on the flipside I guess you could argue that he's due for a rebound. He tends to be a really streaky hitter and argues that he can't find his stroke if he doesn't play every day and that seemed to hold true for him in 2004, but he was given many opportunities to play out of his slump last year and other than a few weeks during the season he was pretty dismal. Eventually Boston simply couldn't find a spot in the lineup for him on a consistent basis and he wasn't good enough defensively at 1B.

 

I can't argue with the fact that the guy has had success as far as OBP goes, and with the lousy options we had available at the time we signed Jones to his 3 year contract, I think I would have seriously considered picking him up for 1 year instead of the direction we went.

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I know Defense is the Cubs fetish this offseason, but I would've liked to see Millar in RF.

 

I've watched Millar for 2 seasons now in Boston and from a personal standpoint I can't stand the guy, but most of that is just cause his "downhome country/redneck" act has worn thin to me. If you believe in "clubhouse chemistry" at all, he's certainly got the resume for that though and he has done an extremely good job in Boston of going out of his way to take pressure off other guys by sticking his nose out in the media when guys like Manny and Renteria are under fire. I think he could have been a big benefit to someone like Corey last year and perhaps he'll do that for the O's if Corey gets off to a bad start.

 

As far as baseball skills go, I think he's average in RF at best and probably a bit below average. He's really declined steadily from an offensive standpoint the past 2 seasons and on one hand I would worry about that as he's getting into his mid 30's, while on the flipside I guess you could argue that he's due for a rebound. He tends to be a really streaky hitter and argues that he can't find his stroke if he doesn't play every day and that seemed to hold true for him in 2004, but he was given many opportunities to play out of his slump last year and other than a few weeks during the season he was pretty dismal. Eventually Boston simply couldn't find a spot in the lineup for him on a consistent basis and he wasn't good enough defensively at 1B.

 

I can't argue with the fact that the guy has had success as far as OBP goes, and with the lousy options we had available at the time we signed Jones to his 3 year contract, I think I would have seriously considered picking him up for 1 year instead of the direction we went.

 

I too spent the last 3 years watching him with the Red Sox, and I completely agree, the clubhouse stuff is nice but overrated, and he is a terrible defender. It was the OBP and potential power that I like.

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I know Defense is the Cubs fetish this offseason, but I would've liked to see Millar in RF.

 

I've watched Millar for 2 seasons now in Boston and from a personal standpoint I can't stand the guy, but most of that is just cause his "downhome country/redneck" act has worn thin to me. If you believe in "clubhouse chemistry" at all, he's certainly got the resume for that though and he has done an extremely good job in Boston of going out of his way to take pressure off other guys by sticking his nose out in the media when guys like Manny and Renteria are under fire. I think he could have been a big benefit to someone like Corey last year and perhaps he'll do that for the O's if Corey gets off to a bad start.

 

As far as baseball skills go, I think he's average in RF at best and probably a bit below average. He's really declined steadily from an offensive standpoint the past 2 seasons and on one hand I would worry about that as he's getting into his mid 30's, while on the flipside I guess you could argue that he's due for a rebound. He tends to be a really streaky hitter and argues that he can't find his stroke if he doesn't play every day and that seemed to hold true for him in 2004, but he was given many opportunities to play out of his slump last year and other than a few weeks during the season he was pretty dismal. Eventually Boston simply couldn't find a spot in the lineup for him on a consistent basis and he wasn't good enough defensively at 1B.

 

I can't argue with the fact that the guy has had success as far as OBP goes, and with the lousy options we had available at the time we signed Jones to his 3 year contract, I think I would have seriously considered picking him up for 1 year instead of the direction we went.

 

I too spent the last 3 years watching him with the Red Sox, and I completely agree, the clubhouse stuff is nice but overrated, and he is a terrible defender. It was the OBP and potential power that I like.

 

Yup - and as much as I hate to admit it cause I still don't like the guy very much, I do believe I'd have prefered him at 1 year over Jones for 3. (gahhhh, that even TASTED bad coming out!!!)

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I particularly like the Rotoworld blurb that Orioles management is pleased with this signing because of Millar's playoff experience. LOL. As if they will be in the playoffs anytime in the near future. :roll:
Posted

We were talking about the O's lineup yesterday

 

2nd Roberts

3rd Mora

SS Tejada

C/ DH Lopez

LF/Dh Millar

RF Gibbons

1st Conine

C what's his name from the Padres

CF Patterson

 

If Markakis pans out this year that bumps Conine with Gibbons taking over 1st.

 

Is this lineup worse than the 2006 Cubs?

Posted
We were talking about the O's lineup yesterday

 

2nd Roberts

3rd Mora

SS Tejada

C/ DH Lopez

LF/Dh Millar

RF Gibbons

1st Conine

C what's his name from the Padres

CF Patterson

 

If Markakis pans out this year that bumps Conine with Gibbons taking over 1st.

 

Is this lineup worse than the 2006 Cubs?

 

Probably not, but they don't have the pitching and they're in a tougher division.

Posted
We were talking about the O's lineup yesterday

 

2nd Roberts

3rd Mora

SS Tejada

C/ DH Lopez

LF/Dh Millar

RF Gibbons

1st Conine

C what's his name from the Padres

CF Patterson

 

If Markakis pans out this year that bumps Conine with Gibbons taking over 1st.

 

Is this lineup worse than the 2006 Cubs?

 

LOL Ramon Hernandez

Posted
YAWN

 

Why do you always pop into a thread with "YAWN" or "meh"? If you don't have anything to say don't post in that thread.

Posted
We were talking about the O's lineup yesterday

 

2nd Roberts

3rd Mora

SS Tejada

C/ DH Lopez

LF/Dh Millar

RF Gibbons

1st Conine

C what's his name from the Padres

CF Patterson

 

If Markakis pans out this year that bumps Conine with Gibbons taking over 1st.

 

Is this lineup worse than the 2006 Cubs?

 

LOL Ramon Hernandez

 

I thought that was his name but it sounded too much like a set up man or something.

 

As far as their pitching goes, no they very likely don't have enough to make the playoffs. Unless they get good full seasons out of Bedard and Cabrera and somehow find a way to close games. Despite all their high profile moves, I'm still not all that impressed by the Blue Jays. The Yankees and Red Sox seem to be getting older and older. Which is why they could be competitive in a couple years. Which is also why Tejada should shut up and play. It's not like he didn't know what the O's were like when he signed there.

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