I can't imagine how many blown steals Pierre will have when Neifi fouls off a pitch in the dirt after Pierre is almost standing on second. There is still no doubt in my mind Perez will be the starting SS. Are we all talking about the same Juan Pierre? Or are some of you assuming he's going to all of a sudden start stealing at an 80% success rate? I won't mention that he needs to also improve his OBP for any of this concern regarding the #2 position to be relevant. I loathe the idea of Perez starting at second, but if neither Walker nor Hairston clearly beats him out statistically then that's more of a slam on Walker and Hairston. I'm not a big fan of Baker to say the least. But I'll give him a little more of a chance since he'll have no excuses this year. After all, he finally has more speed, a leadoff man, a good bullpen and better defense up the middle.... something he's been crying about since the end of 2003. Now he has no excuses to fall back on. I don't remember writing about him having a 80% steal rate but I'll read my post again to see if I did........nope, I didn't. My point is that Perez will take away steals from him because he swings at every pitch. And again I will say that Perez will be starting at SS and play in at least 140 games. Sorry, Cuse. I used your quote but wasn't necessarily addressing my post to you. I was addressing those who think that whoever hits second will have a negative effect on Pierre's stolen base accuracy. He's going to have to improve an awful lot because he wasn't an efficient basestealer even without Neifi hitting behind him, plus Pierre has to get on base to even have a chance at stealing -- something else he wasn't that good at. Barring an injury to Cedeno, I'll make a cyber bet with you that Perez won't be starting at SS. Wish I felt as confident that he won't be starting at second, though. How about this bet Dale...how about an under/over with Perez? I say 140 games or more....you want to take the under? I'll even make this bet with a healthy Cedeno, Walker and Hairston. I think that Perez would still take some steals from Pierre. Pierre might even add to Perez and his total amount of DP's that he hits into if that could be possible, that is if Neifi bats second. I agree that Pierre has to get on base in the first place to steal but he has gotten on base better than Patterson or Perez did when they lead off so he is better in that regard. Of course this goes along the thoughts of Murton being the most productive OF....we're always marking on a curve we Cub fans are.